Player Features and Ideas Discussion

You are roughly describing the Orca.


What the hell are large and small hull slots anyways?

um.. I see. A carrier in the purest sense, since it only carries ships and does nothing else. I'll give it a thumbs up, cause its another big target. Really just a freighter that only transports ships.

The thumbs up are conditional: Can't jump, multiple maint. bays so you can't haul an actual carrier, but can still haul a large-ish volume of unpackaged ships. no cargo, no rigs(unless frieghter gets rigs).

+1provided it's model is MASSIVE.

Hell why not

Even if you look now for example Fenrir it can already fit 2 fitted Vargurs in(provided you make contract) and psychically if you look at it it can easy fit 2 of those along inner walls making triangle shape in cargo leaving center space for medium / small hulls

Now make it twice longer and voila huge arse behemoth slotting 4 BS and fleet of med/small ones remove middle section of hull plates make it look like fish rib cage(with it own open n close animation)so you can see inside ribs all of ships hocked on transport ship electronics and cooling system for still hot ships reactors ....

And you get pretty huge awesome looking ship me thinks.

True... you have a degree of safety in transporting stuff around high-sec due to CONCORD... but the tradeoff is that there are also fewer options for moving stuff around in a timely fashion (no cynos, no jump bridges).


So would you agree that this would be a boon for War-Dec and "Ganker" corps that prey on traders and industrialists in high-sec? I would personally love to be able to move my POS bashing fleet in record time around high-sec.


How about this; it will be a little under the size of a freighter with...

- slighter faster mobility (in and out of warp)... somewhere between and Orca and Freighter.
- the ability to carry 1 fitted battleship and some extra (a cruiser worth?).
- very limited to no fitting slots (it's a massive hauler like a freighter... fitting is sacrificed for hauling ability).
- very limited cargo-bay so it doesn't step on the toes of normal freighters and the Orca.

Cargo bay and rig slots are optional we are talking about transporting ships nothing else you still cant be in all 3 battleships at once you need either alts or ppl with you and with un dock delay you cant rly deploy at will you need time and again fleet of ppl if you want your fleet of pos bashing cruizers to work.

for high sec purposes i still see it as just a transport solution that bypass to extent truly tedious "work" of multiple trips doing the same thing...or to put it simple as much it help "ganker"it helps me to.

I see what you mean and all of your quoted points seems to show how a ganker is far better of using this ship even if you cant truly field it all at timely manner.

Well i would do my loading and unloading at station too so i guess we agree there,as far as safe is concerned it rly doesn't matter where you will be waiting to unload ships it is still on timer.

If i want to pos bash a tower / kill a mighty noob il just go there with my fleet in 15 min and bash a place / poor sob i will not go grand tourism for 2h to made "wrecking ball"point being i don't care will ganker or miner or trader use these ships we all gonna use it for one thing that is....

Transport multi ships to somewhere with bulls eye on our back slow pedaling so we don't have to do it 5 times.

And there is your trade off as well it is not express service it is slow and painful to do with all risk there is out there.

Edit

For your idea if limiting a number of BS to 1 i rly don't see a point of a transport ship that can transport a ship 38j out in 6 hours or your self doing same in 40min. if it cant carry it is useless.

Balanced with a lower EHP than a freighter. Much lower.
faster align. faster warp. but amenable to ganking by a small number of nados.
The cost doesn't need to be high.
As long as it is easy to make the gank profit calcs work then no one needs to be scared of this.
Carry too much and \o/ loot pinata.
balancing via actual ship cost isn't a route i like.
balancing via gank cost vs loot drop is a much happier place.

This idea's been around for awhile. This is the thread you are looking for. It's a fairly long thread, but much of it's actually the same guy bumping it every other week or so... since January of 2012.

For reference, I think the idea's actually a good one... although the use case is pretty much limited to those few players who make a career of transport logistics, the difficulties of which many players are simply unaware of.

"Death Engines" are supported by logistics... the better the logistics, the better the "Death Engine."