Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I used to use one all the time in null. I'm pretty sure a lot of other people do too. I don't really see any reason to give them more tank other than to die more slowly if you get caught in one.

Noctis's are used loads in null, you just dont know it, and thats the way its ment to be. Otherwise you would see a lot more noctis losses in null.

I like the idea of a t2 noctis, but it needs more draw then just tank. Spit balling:

Covert cloak
Massive increase to salvager range (ninja salvage anyone?)
Mat bay + able to reprocess modules.
Able to manufacture
Auto tractor like mtus
Etc

indeed, if u want ur noctis to survive in hostile space give it GTFO-ability rather than tank.

maybe a T2 venture could be a null salvager as well/instead

hopefully no one reads all my posts and sees how often i mention T2 venture

Okay i like that idea, maybe give the T2 Noctis only 6 high slots, but tanked to fudge and the same salvaging/tractoring abilities.

I've read some of your T2 venture ideas, and working off of the Tech II salvager idea, maybe the venture could have 4 high slots, can fit covops cloak, (so 2 Tractors, 1 Sally and a covops) a bonus to sally drones per skill level, a teeny weeny sig radius, but practically no tank? Maybe 1 low and 2 mids and a relatively large cargo bay, 1000m3 or something extra special for a frigate.

I think a Covert Ops cloak would fit a T2 notics hull very well, and giving it T2 resists would give it a bit more tank anyways.....

and on top of that make it a little bit faster base speed, this could increase salvage time indirectly, but not majorly, and improve its survivability a bit too

This thin would make is a more specialized salvage ship, give it a nich, as most high sec runners wouldnt use it, as it would cost 3 to 5 times as much, and not be to much faster of an improvement....... for that reason, you might not see much use of it in null anyways

i mean....if your willing to fly a faction BS or ratting carrier, im pretty sure they are willing to fly an notics in null, so not really sure where you got the idea that no one in nullsec uses them lol

give noctis the roles! capital tractors so you can have a noctis in the back of the blob pulling wrecks to the fleet to loot/salvage

If you really mean it seriously with tech II noctis (and i definitely like that idea), i would suggest something like:
7H/2M/5L (less salvagers than noctis, higher possibility to armor tank for a limited time period)
higher capacitor and/or faster recharge, some increase of CPU, powergrid
a bit more HP (+200 hull +1000 armor +500shield)
sig. radius 270 (+20)
max speed 140 (-15)
mass 16000t (+1360t)

traits:
ORE industrial
-5% tractor beam cycle
60% tractor range
-5% salvage cycle
(same as Noctis)

Ore salvager (or whatever name for tech II variant skill)
10% salvager access dificulty bonus
5%cargohold

Role bonus
cover ops cloak

so idea is cloaky, bit more tanky ship with a bit better cargohold but bigger, heavier and thus slower. It have less possible salvagers compensated with a little bit higher access chance.

I dont know how exactly access probability mechanics works, but if it works a bit as I think it does, you will at lvl5 have better performance on salvaging tech II wrecks than Noctis, but still wont use it much on tech I (probability of salvaging those is alredy high enought not to really feel the difference too much or feel of noctis being better).
This will also provide specific low/null/WH role for them, as in highsec there are not many tech II wrecks, so you will get better with cheaper, lower skill and more high power slots Noctis

T2 Noctis could be a bulk transport.

Maintain the Salvage and Tractor bonuses, but give it multiple cargo bays, each of which about 45k m3, so that it carries about 1/3 of a freighters load, just in small batches.