EVE General Discussion

I've seen my share of spaghetti code, and of poorly-validated products. Even more of poor development methoodology. CCP has the basic 'right stuff' but the dots aren't all connecting quite as they ought.

An over-all auditor with no development responsibility, but only a responsibility to police the process and step back to take a '10,000-foot look' might be helpful.


Also: I would willingly surrender new features for a couple years spent cleaning up and rationalizing the code. I understand that might not be commercially appetizing, but at the far end, new development would be so much easier...
I also understand I might be in the distinct minority.

Nah. That kinda thing is only fun when it's totally random, and people haven't had time to figure out works-around. Once they adapt, the fun is gone.

Now, if New Eden were to be inflicted with haxxors whom went about, randomly screwing with sov, concord standings, and other important security markers, well... THAT would be comedy I could appreciate!

Uh...looks like the operative word here is "outsource...ers.." Like the OP said... "CCP should...."

As an aside: After the great banking debacle, Iceland's only profitable corporation is________?

Whilst true, a closer approximation to Rule #1 is both possible, and desirable.

I work with many, many folks over in the UK. It rubs off on one.

Wow. Just wow.

The part that amazes me about this whole thing is that CCP Goliath came here to address your concerns, tried to explain things, and did so taking time out of his work day (which incidentally is spent fixing the **** that everyone is bitching about).

And immediately after doing so the collective persona of Eve GD proceeds to throw feces at him like little ******* monkeys.

There was a thread a couple of days ago about, "Why did you pick Eve?" I picked it because during my trial I found it more sophisticated and mature than WoW (pre-dumbass pandas). Now I look at the forums and see that it has no greater maturity. It's the same douchebaggery but coming from people averaging twice the age of the typical WoW player.

So the next time you post in a bitching thread about this thing or that thing, demanding that CCP respond, remember this day. If you all act this way when they do respond, next time they may not come back to tell you **** because you can't be ******* adult about it.

it seems you just lack history regarding this.

we are not complaining about one specific issue, but about a chronic lack of QA in CCP's release.

i play since early 2010, and yet, not a SINGLE expansion have been released without breaking something major.

if you add this, to the fact that during testings, player DO give feedback, and even make constructive proposals, only to get simply ignored by CCP, like unified inventory, odyssey exploration, the jump animation(wich is STILL making some ppl sick), the missiles thingy, the various rebalances done after the cruisers which litteraly made some ship useless (half matar is now missiles? wtf?), more recently, the ESS (and the list goes on......).

there is a moment when, if the only interaction you have with the player base, is to smear your crap in their face, they'll start doing the same.

it's called mutual respect, not talking about a dev specificaly, but CCP in general, seems to ignore this.

an angry player base will go vocal, and the longer you ignore it, the more vocal it'll go, and the less it will be open to compromises.

CCP learned that during incarna, or should have......

i'm starting to ask myself if they aren't secretly wishing for it to happen again, at least they act like it.....

Don't let the butthurt nerdragers drag on you over this. It was great entertainment watching them freak out when they could not make their usual hyper-use of the op local tool and were docked up and squealing.

yeah, cause when player gives constructive feedback, it goes ho so well......

All this butthurt because standings indications in the overpowered tool known as local were disabled for a day.