Intergalactic Summit

Ms. Rabbit, A couple things...
1. The full quote of my post isn't necessary to make your point.
2. I doubt any documentation would convince you.
3. In spite of that, I'm willing to meet with you and let you see these groups in person and see their registered SCC documentation identifying them as Kameiras.

A few Ms. Rabbit phrases:


You have a pattern of speaking with a level of certainty that you do not have. It is a fact that corporate distribution agents do hire Kameiras to serve as security guards aboard their transport vessels. Capsuleer pilots are hired to fly these Kameiras to medical facilities, sometimes Gallente or Matari or Caldari for medical and psychological screening. Any pilot who regularly runs distribution missions with Amarrian companies will discover this. It took me less than two days to find this to be true first hand. You assume that the ideal in Amarrian society is always upheld. It is not. Nor are the ideals in any of our cultures always upheld. Caldari, Gallente, Amarrian, and Minmatar cultures are all flawed enough that we sometimes violate our stated values. Is it really so hard for you to believe that Amarrian companies would do this? You yourself could run a few distribution missions and sooner or later you would see it for yourself.

It would be nice to have an ordinary conversation with you on the subject sometime without bleeped out name calling and such. Do you suppose that might be possible?

No. I wish I could make that bigger and bolder. The Chosen refers to the True Amarr. That's it; only the True Amarr. I understand that you are Khanid and might not like this little Scriptural fact (you seem to not like most Scriptural facts, actually) but the truth of the matter is not changed by your wants and feelings.
Those whom the Chosen reclaim are brought into the body of faith and the Holy Amarr Empire (which you are not a part of, being a citizen of the Kingdom) and are then taken into Paradise when this life is over.
No one knows exactly what Paradise is like. We have general ideas, but no one can know until they pass through the gates.

Kameira arrives in Republic. Savage makes a wise-crack about God. Kameira casually rips savage's head off. Twenty people die before he's put down.

And here I was thinking that DSTON didn't believe in murder.




And Amarrians don't believe in this "Hell" thing you keep talking about, which only adds to the evidence of you being a TLF plant.

While I appreciate the concern, let me communicate this. While with these people, the one thing I have come to most deeply respect and admire about them is their incredible self control. One thing I have learned about the best soldiers is that they are trained to be self-controlled men and women. Yes, they are killers, yes they are highly devoted and highly devout, but they express that on the battlefield on the front lines and not in random and uncontrolled expressions of anger. The Kameiras do not act "casually." They are a most deliberate people.

I would remind you also that this was a tour of our facility, not a free-for-all let them loose in the station. The Kameiras have been perhaps the most respectful and honorable guests we have ever had aboard our vessels. They were fully briefed before the tour began and their conduct was and remains as disciplined as one would expect from people so trained.

The 70 that went with us and were present at the rescue of 420 additional Kameiras together have chosen an Amarrian built station in a system outside the sovereignty of the major empires to establish their community. We will assist in every possible way.

It is not the Kameiras who have betrayed their faith, but the Amarrian corporations who have betrayed the faith and betrayed the Kameiras. The Kameiras are loyal and corporations (i.e. Joint Harvest, et.al.) that have compromised.

((It is because I have read the Chronicles...))

In answer to your question, we decline all arms related mission. We gladly accept missions involving medicines to needy persons, food and other helpful and productive activities to build up our standing. In Vashkah, I have obtained access to level one and two agents and through diplomatic skills have been able to maintain that access and still decline every four hours those missions distasteful to me. Declining missions does not hurt your standing as long as it is no more frequent than once every four hours. Standing loss for failed missions is minimal unless you are running a "Faction Mission." We never run such missions. In this I am also able to accept and quit missions involving slaves, homeless people, and Kameiras and help these betrayed and exploited people.

Bottom line; run enough missions and you will soon discover incredible corruption among agents and by extension, the companies they represent. If you have angst express it where it ought to be expressed; toward those corrupt entities such as Joint Harvest et.al.

Someone working for Nauplius? I'm sure there are perfectly convenient service stations all over Niarja that serve respectably mediocre chili cheese dogs. They sell drinks by the liter, I hear, for two ISK, and you can get a Quafe ice slurp for a mere ISK more. Best yet, it doesn't matter how much chili you pump from the machine, so you can really fill up the paper boat to carry it in if you really like the flavor.

That should do the trick.

Many of us have been humoring DSTON for quite some time, Mr.Nalthkh, though as of late I have found a troubling frequency in which your organization have been overstepping their bounds, as it were.

To save lives is always a noble cause but now it seems as if you have made a habit of flagrantly spitting upon our laws & customs, and have been doing so withing the Empire's own space.

I kindly ask that you cease and desist this "escalation" of your activities, that you return to your original mission of rescuing only those forsaken souls who have been abandoned to die in space, and not continue down this path that can only lead to your charitable organization being lumped in the same category as those Minmatar "freedom fighters" and thus being dealt with as such.

Though I do not agree with PIE's voracious hostility, I am beginning to understand it. You are starting to cross the line from being a charitable rescue organization to a criminal gang, and any sympathies for your cause will collapse very quickly within the Empire unless you divert your path back towards one that is more acceptable to us.



First off all, Mr.Momaki, Kameiras are not "exploited." Their lives have more purpose than most people can ever help to find in their own. They are respected soldiers, trained from birth, and hold an honored place in the Empire as such. When our agents contract capsuleers to transport them it is to move them to places where they are needed. This implies crisis situations where lives are in danger and only the skills of our Kameiras can save those innocents who are in jeopardy. Do those innocent lives not matter to you, then? Do you not care for those who will die because the Kameiras who were supposed to arrive in time to save them failed to do so?

Likewise, when the homeless are relocated, is this not done so that they may find employment, and through that a better life, the end goal? Yet you steal them away from these opportunities that were laid out and waiting for them simply to have more bodies in this colony project of yours? Tell me, how can you do this and still claim any kind of moral superiority over us "slavers," hmm?

And when a Holder commissions a capsuleer to transport slaves, this is not the same as finding such people abandoned in "death-cans." These people have not been abandoned in any way. They are being relocated from one location to another, nothing more. What you are doing in this situation is no different than hijacking a passenger ship and taking all of the passengers hostage. You are incorrectly assuming that these people are being mistreated in some way, or that they would even want to join your little "colony project." And again you are completely disregarding the consequences of these people being suddenly misplaced. Are you familiar with the term "Elite Slaves?" It is a broad category that includes things such as nurses and rescue workers. What happens when a mine collapses or a plague strikes and these people who were promised to assist fail to arrive?

Has it occurred to you that you may, in fact, be doing far more harm than good? Or has your "mission-statement" blinded you to the greater picture around you? When the moral balance between these few you "save" and the great numbers who suffer because of it are weighed against each other, will you be found lacking? Because that is something you shall have to reconcile before God someday, Mr.Momaki.

I do hope it is not too late for you to return to the righteous path of true benevolence, lest this path of self-aggrandizement lead you into ruin.

I wish to thank Ston Momaki for the Cultural Exchange of representatives from our different fashionhouses (Coriault school & Mannar school) The mingling & sharing of fashion will help making people feel more home at their new place.
A small report on this has been published: Cultural Exchange between Aurora Arcology and Disciples of Ston

On the subject on Kameiras:

I already discovered they very controversial due to their upbringing & nature. The Aurora Arcology does house Kameiras as well, mainly those rescued after they were abandoned by their assigner. While many Amarr & their corporations do treat the loyal & faithful kameiras as they deserve, there's still some that just see them as glorified human tools, to be discarded when they feel like.

On the next, I'm sure Ston will disagree with me, but the Aurora Arcology has no plans in 'freeing' them, as it requires severe deprogramming, and from previous examples it rarely improves a kameiras quality of life. Instead, they are assigned as bodyguards for the high ranking Amarr aboard the Arcology such as the Preacher.
It's thought amongst management that this is the current best action to take for Kameiras who have been brought to us after they were abandoned by their former masters. They are still loyall to the Amarr, religiously so, and wouldn't want to serve another faction.

It is obvious to me that you have rarely or perhaps never run distribution misisons. Agents are both high corrupt and corrupting of those who work for them without questioning.

1. Kameiras are exploited by agents sending them to do work that is directly contrary to their specific "nature of their purpose" that they have trained for and indoctrinated since birth. What is the nature of their purpose? You and other Amarrian loyalists are the ones who should be rescuing the Kameiras from this expoitation. You are the ones who should be confronting Joint Harvest and Nurtura and the others who are doing the exploiting. Don't fault us for doing what you have failed to do.

2. Distribution agents would prefer to send the homeless out the airlocks of stations or frame them for capital crimes. Since they are prevented from doing that, they simply hire capsuleers to transport them and dump them at competing stations. I will provide agent testimony to this next time I help a group of these homeless. Stop being so naïve about agents. They are supremely corrupt and abusive. You need to run some distribution missions to see first hand. Then you can come back and accuse me.

3. Elite slaves are sent by Amarrian corporations to do construction work on Caldari stations that are behind schedule. You are wrong about elite slaves. They specialize in brutal physical labor.

This new work is just as much humanitarian as anything else we do. It is work that every devout Amarrian Capsuleer should be doing. You should be protecting the integrity of your institutions.