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Joining EVE university?

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Trigger Zo
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-01-26 00:18:37 UTC
Howdy fellow podders once more?!

So I've been in new Eden for a whole two days now!

Like most new players I'm pretty eager to join a player controlled corp because I've heard that the community in EVE really sets it above the rest. So I'm on the look out for a corp that is partciularly friendly toward fresh faced players such as myself.

I'x heard a lot about EVE university and considered applying myself..... that was until I glanced over there wiki page, man the application process to join is rather rigirous isn't it? Are all corps the same? is Eve uni really worth the effort of their application process and requirments

Just wondered what your guys view on the matter was, do people have nothing but good to say about EVE uni? Or shkuld I try going my own route? If so could anyone recommend any alternatives?

Cheers guys and gals
Trigger
Paranoid Loyd
#2 - 2014-01-26 00:20:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Convo people in the corp, ask them if it is worth it. Considering their size and how long they have been around, the depth of their wiki and the fleets I see flying around, seems like it is worth it.

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Patri Andari
Thukker Tribe Antiquities Importer
#3 - 2014-01-26 00:55:28 UTC
On my first created character I subscribed to eve after 1 day of the trial. A week later I was overwhelmed by the complexity. Someone on the noob help channel suggested Eve University (prolly tired of all my questions) and I did just that after a bit of research.

I joined them soon after. Had I not, I might not have stuck with the game. Joining Eve University was the single most Intelligent thing I did in this game for a long time after that.

Many of their rules and policies may put some people off, but they have been formed due to a commitment to buffer the noobs during their gestation period. You will learn many things and never run short on people willing and ready to answer your smart and not so smart questions.


HTH

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L'ouris
Have Naught Subsidiaries
#4 - 2014-01-26 02:00:41 UTC
The first time I was waved at in the corporate chat channel of eve u was a game changer for me. I went from being all alone trying to figure the game out to being surrounded by literally hundreds of other folk to play and learn with.

Just keep in mind that eventually, every bird should look to leave the nest and strike out on their own :)
NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
#5 - 2014-01-26 02:16:49 UTC
Cant believe no one has linked this yetLol

But, most of the people i have talked to that has spent time in EVE Uni does not regret it, even if the application process is.. rough. However, i have never been a member my self so i can only go by what others have told me.
gfldex
#6 - 2014-01-26 02:42:56 UTC
Let's say you have spend a reasonable 2.2BISK on a dreadnaught of your choosing and so did another 10 of your fellow corp members. One can safely make 1BISK in highsec with running mission in a week (you don't play all day every day for that) and so did you and your fellow corp members. Since neither you nor your corpies believe in dust collection, you actually use those dreads.

Ten minutes later those dreads are turned into killmails because some ebil spai lit a rogue cyno happily leading your little dread fleet into a trap -- and all that just because your CEO is a lazy *beep*wit who didn't do the most basic background checks on recruits. That means 24 collective weeks of ISK grind went down the drain in 10 minutes without getting anything in return.

And 2.2BISK for a ship are not a lot of ISK and 11 dreads are not a big fleet.

Not that E-UNI fly around in dreads much, but given the scale of the operation a single spai can cause much more damage. Does that explain the need of a reasonable application process to you?

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Amaranthe Emberd
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2014-01-26 05:20:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Amaranthe Emberd
gfldex wrote:
Let's say you have spend a reasonable 2.2BISK on a dreadnaught of your choosing and so did another 10 of your fellow corp members. One can safely make 1BISK in highsec with running mission in a week (you don't play all day every day for that) and so did you and your fellow corp members. Since neither you nor your corpies believe in dust collection, you actually use those dreads.

Ten minutes later those dreads are turned into killmails because some ebil spai lit a rogue cyno happily leading your little dread fleet into a trap -- and all that just because your CEO is a lazy *beep*wit who didn't do the most basic background checks on recruits. That means 24 collective weeks of ISK grind went down the drain in 10 minutes without getting anything in return.

And 2.2BISK for a ship are not a lot of ISK and 11 dreads are not a big fleet.

Not that E-UNI fly around in dreads much, but given the scale of the operation a single spai can cause much more damage. Does that explain the need of a reasonable application process to you?



Good example, but I'm not sure how much of the more specific Eve terms you used a new player would actually understand. Smile

Tbh, Eve Uni is a bit more tough to get into than most other Eve corps (with the waiting lists, rules you have to memorize for the interview, etc, etc), but usually getting in most good corps in Eve is definitely harder than joining guilds or clans in other MMOs. Of course, there are plenty of bad corps that would take you in without asking any questions, but I'm not sure whether you want to be part of those. I know I don't.

One exception is probably Brave Newbies Inc, who'd take anyone as long as you know how to find the Apply button in game. They are a good corp for new players, but do your research on them first, because they might not be what you're looking for. They let you learn by doing (and usually getting blown up as a result), live in low-sec (where you either learn how to survive or lose a lot of ships), have many wars going on, so this means that high-sec isn't particularly safe and generally don't care about any rules as long as they have fun. If it sounds like your kind of thing feel free to check them out.
Xyrene Aurilen
Hard Knocks Inc.
Hard Knocks Citizens
#8 - 2014-01-26 06:03:27 UTC
I am a former E-Uni member, and there are some good and there are some not so good about the corp.

The corp is very good about giving you guidance in where to go, a lot of resources of which you can learn, and an abundance of people that are willing to give their two cents on what they think is the right thing to do... a lot of times this is far better than what you do. The advice you get here is not going to be, nor will it ever be, "end game." Eve University is a learning corporation, and with the goals and ideology they have in mind, they do a very good job. They are set up to fully accept, harbor, teach, train and finally push out a newbro into the world of Eve.

Now, what you do with the time there, is completely up to you.

Spending all of your time mining, regardless of what Corp you are in, is going to teach you no more than shooting rocks. Moving to the Null Sec Campus and only participating in gate camps, will do you no more than teaching you to target a hostile character and (hopefully, if you're fast) shoot someone.

Bit the Corp executes their mission precisely, and incredibly well: to teach a newbro to love this game, and find what it is that the person truly enjoys. I know I did, and I'm still a newbro.

So yes, I will say without a doubt, get your time in there. The lessons, experience, and resources are incredibly valuable, and will translate well for you long into the future.

Fly safe!

~Xy
Marcus Avon
New Eden Fedo Lovers Society
#9 - 2014-01-26 08:51:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Marcus Avon
Trigger Zo wrote:
Howdy fellow podders once more?!

So I've been in new Eden for a whole two days now!

Like most new players I'm pretty eager to join a player controlled corp because I've heard that the community in EVE really sets it above the rest. So I'm on the look out for a corp that is partciularly friendly toward fresh faced players such as myself.

I'x heard a lot about EVE university and considered applying myself..... that was until I glanced over there wiki page, man the application process to join is rather rigirous isn't it? Are all corps the same? is Eve uni really worth the effort of their application process and requirments

Just wondered what your guys view on the matter was, do people have nothing but good to say about EVE uni? Or shkuld I try going my own route? If so could anyone recommend any alternatives?

Cheers guys and gals
Trigger


I'm not much older than you and I have to say I had the exact same horrified reaction after seeing EvE Uni's application process. I honestly think it would be less hassle to apply to join a real university and it certainly scared me off.

Fortunately much of their teaching material, lectures and the chat channel are public so its still possible to learn a lot from them without all the hassles of joining.

I also have it on good authority that Eve Uni is about the worst for application hassles and almost all other well established large corps are better in terms of the amount of pain involved applying. Nightcrawler 85's corp guide would be invaluable in choosing the one right for you.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=245333&find=unread

Nightcrawler 85 wrote:
Cant believe no one has linked this yetLol

But, most of the people i have talked to that has spent time in EVE Uni does not regret it, even if the application process is.. rough. However, i have never been a member my self so i can only go by what others have told me.


Ha ha I haven't seen that yet either, very funny and frighteningly realistic! :)
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#10 - 2014-01-26 19:42:14 UTC
Trigger Zo wrote:
Howdy fellow podders once more?!

So I've been in new Eden for a whole two days now!

Like most new players I'm pretty eager to join a player controlled corp because I've heard that the community in EVE really sets it above the rest. So I'm on the look out for a corp that is partciularly friendly toward fresh faced players such as myself.

I'x heard a lot about EVE university and considered applying myself..... that was until I glanced over there wiki page, man the application process to join is rather rigirous isn't it? Are all corps the same? is Eve uni really worth the effort of their application process and requirments

Just wondered what your guys view on the matter was, do people have nothing but good to say about EVE uni? Or shkuld I try going my own route? If so could anyone recommend any alternatives?

Cheers guys and gals
Trigger


Questions answered in order of appearance:

1. Yes, it's quite rigirous.
2. Not at all. There will be corps that are worse, there will be a lot of corps that are much easier. It all depends on how the corp wants to operate and how strict they are on who they want to recruit.
3. That depends, they do have a good experience and knowledge database from the vets that are part of them.
4. Personally never been part of EVE-Uni myself, so can't judge the inside of the corp. But personally, I think they take paranoia to a whole new level with their application process and I think it's taking it a bit too far.
5. One of the rules of EVE: ALWAYS go your own route, never ever take anything people say for factual truth and never let anybody push you into a certain direction or playstyle you don't personally like.
6. That's hard. As each player is totally different, every pilot will "need" a different corp that fits their gamestyle. Thus, nobody but yourself can answer what to do, where to go etc.

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Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#11 - 2014-01-26 23:04:30 UTC
EvE Uni always looks good on your employment history when you're looking to get hired elsewhere later. Just like real life.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0

Marcus Avon
New Eden Fedo Lovers Society
#12 - 2014-01-27 17:49:22 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
EvE Uni always looks good on your employment history when you're looking to get hired elsewhere later. Just like real life.


Probably because they know that if you have the patience to get through Eve Uni's application process then you can get through anything.
Sir Jack Falstaff
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2014-01-29 16:51:30 UTC
Patri Andari wrote:
On my first created character I subscribed to eve after 1 day of the trial. A week later I was overwhelmed by the complexity. Someone on the noob help channel suggested Eve University (prolly tired of all my questions) and I did just that after a bit of research.

I joined them soon after. Had I not, I might not have stuck with the game. Joining Eve University was the single most Intelligent thing I did in this game for a long time after that.

Many of their rules and policies may put some people off, but they have been formed due to a commitment to buffer the noobs during their gestation period. You will learn many things and never run short on people willing and ready to answer your smart and not so smart questions.

You pretty much saved me a bunch of typing.

Yes, the application is a hassle, but it's worth it. Hell, I wonder if I'd be able to set up the overview at all if it weren't for the Eve-Uni application. So you're learning stuff before you even get in.

Banish plump Jack, and banish all the world.