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What if we removed jump drives from the game?

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TheMercenaryKing
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-01-20 17:27:45 UTC
I was thinking about force projecting and the ability to defend areas. In normal games choke points make a big deal in defending places. But current tactics in eve are form up a fleet in 5 minutes and go across the galaxy in 13½ minutes all because of cynos you setup beforehand and have logged off. While I do like the ability of force projection and being able to make your own back door, part of me doesn't.

What if capitals all took gates, or maybe be able to jump 3 gates at a time (or some weird mechanic like it), but that's it. this would change game tactics a lot, and i mean a metric gigatonne (10^9 tonnes). people would actually be defending places with gate camps and not just for kills, but for an actual reason. yes gate camps are boring, but often are of little to no strategic value due to the ability to ninja a cyno past it.

But there is a problem, what about bubbles on gates in null-sec? i mean, flying a dread off grid is not fun nor a good idea, seeing as they wouldn't be able to track the bubbles (i am in no way serious about this).

My image, is a heavy fleet of sub-capitals and capitals jumping through a gate and burning out of bubbles while shooting everything in sight, while trying to warp out to get to the objective. Making it so dreads have better tracking and better overall capital mobility, which would be negated when they commit via siege and triage (or deploy fighters/drones type siege module).


Sarah Schneider
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2014-01-20 17:32:36 UTC
I can't even say how many previous same threads there are regarding this "issue" and the countless reasons why this is a bad idea.

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Carmen Electra
AlcoDOTTE
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#3 - 2014-01-20 17:33:25 UTC
You know, you could have randomly clicked on ANY thread on the front page and posted this and it would have been relevant. Why did you make a new thread?

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Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
#4 - 2014-01-20 17:38:51 UTC
Carmen Electra wrote:
You know, you could have randomly clicked on ANY thread on the front page and posted this and it would have been relevant. Why did you make a new thread?


Kimmi Chan in one of the other multitude of threads on this subject that is now locked wrote:
That's an easy question to answer. These people think that they have something "special" to say. They think what they have to say is so vastly more important than anything the other hundreds of people that have already weighed in on this have to say.

Their input, while certainly valuable, is certainly NOT valuable enough for yet another thread about the same damn thing.

Roll

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TheMercenaryKing
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#5 - 2014-01-20 17:59:19 UTC
Not talking about HED-GP at all, i didn't take part and i wouldn't be dumb enough to jump into tidi unless i am on the side that is winning.

TiDi i think helped eve a lot and i like the mechanic as workaround for an issue with code and hardware limitations. I mean, if you want to put a 10 year old car engine in an Abrams tank and getting the tank to move, good luck.

I am just thinking about how cool a different approach to mechanics. but if you think i am talking about tidi and cyno and such, then why would i post this, instead of jumping into a random location in the system, the invaders would have to enter one of two areas for hed-gp. this is a strategic game changing idea.
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
#6 - 2014-01-20 18:02:37 UTC
Read as far as "Formup in 5 minutes".

You really have no clue if you think it takes 5 mins to for multiple 250 man fleets....Oops

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Billy McCandless
Zacharia Explorations Group
Patchwork Industrial Research And Trade Endeavors
#7 - 2014-01-20 18:03:23 UTC
Its dead easy to avoid all of this


Dont have anything to do with Sov Alliances

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TheMercenaryKing
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#8 - 2014-01-20 18:06:43 UTC
i am not saying form up 250 people in 5 minutes, i know that takes time, but it takes 5 minutes for a skype message "get in dreads and get in fleet, fight going down, XXXX will provide cyno chain". This of course was the battle of Asakai.

Granted if jump drives were removed from the game, things like asakai would not happen.
Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
#9 - 2014-01-20 18:38:54 UTC
TheMercenaryKing wrote:
i am not saying form up 250 people in 5 minutes, i know that takes time, but it takes 5 minutes for a skype message "get in dreads and get in fleet, fight going down, XXXX will provide cyno chain". This of course was the battle of Asakai.

Granted if jump drives were removed from the game, things like asakai would not happen.


And neither would Skype calls. Which is good for all of us.

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Darth Kilth
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#10 - 2014-01-20 19:06:24 UTC
Don't remove freaking jump drives, that's just boring.

Decrease max jump range and up the fuell needed, make it harder to project force over significant distances.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#11 - 2014-01-20 19:17:14 UTC
Remove jump drives, let all ships use gates, and buy scuba lessons.


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TheMercenaryKing
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#12 - 2014-01-20 19:17:35 UTC
Darth Kilth wrote:
Don't remove freaking jump drives, that's just boring.

Decrease max jump range and up the fuell needed, make it harder to project force over significant distances.


that or add maybe a minimum time before you can jump again and not make it cap dependent. I mean, you should not be allowed to jump without the cap, but prevent the dock, undock, jump.
Thead Enco
HR..
#13 - 2014-01-20 19:18:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Thead Enco
TheMercenaryKing wrote:


What if capitals all took gates, or maybe be able to jump 3 gates at a time (or some weird mechanic like it),


Move all Lvl 4's to lowsex, Move all research agents to "Rancer" and move all station manufacturing to "Amamake"......that should cure you're infliction with assburgers.
Billy McCandless
Zacharia Explorations Group
Patchwork Industrial Research And Trade Endeavors
#14 - 2014-01-20 19:20:30 UTC
TheMercenaryKing wrote:
Darth Kilth wrote:
Don't remove freaking jump drives, that's just boring.

Decrease max jump range and up the fuell needed, make it harder to project force over significant distances.


that or add maybe a minimum time before you can jump again and not make it cap dependent. I mean, you should not be allowed to jump without the cap, but prevent the dock, undock, jump.


Why do you hate Jump Freighter pilots so much? :'(

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Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
#15 - 2014-01-20 19:36:03 UTC
It would be great.

The Tears Must Flow
Tuttomenui II
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2014-01-20 20:09:29 UTC
Better yet!

What if we added a civilian cyno gen and civilian covert cyno gen, and we allowed jump freighters and black ops to move around hisec at will and for the black ops to be able to use a covert jump bridge to hisec at will.
Muffet McStrudel
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2014-01-20 20:36:13 UTC
Ah yes, wouldn't it be grand if we were forced to escort that freighter from hi sec 30 jumps again ... Ugh
Muffet McStrudel
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2014-01-20 20:37:52 UTC
TheMercenaryKing wrote:
Darth Kilth wrote:
Don't remove freaking jump drives, that's just boring.

Decrease max jump range and up the fuell needed, make it harder to project force over significant distances.


that or add maybe a minimum time before you can jump again and not make it cap dependent. I mean, you should not be allowed to jump without the cap, but prevent the dock, undock, jump.


Why? Cause you never want anyone to use Black Frog's services again?

You don't like getting your stuff delivered in null sec? I know I do.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2014-01-20 20:38:03 UTC
"Let's make null even worse to live in. That'll solve all our problems."

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
#20 - 2014-01-20 20:42:09 UTC
TheMercenaryKing wrote:
What if we removed jump drives from the game?


What if we removed Afterburners from the game?

What if we removed Hybrid Weapons from the game?

What if we removed Implants from the game?

What if we removed Corporations from the game?



Oh wait, it's a hypothetical question.

If we removed jump drives from the game, then people would no longer use jump drives. I WIN!

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