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Something need to be done to stop the massacre of missioning ships and minning barges in hisec

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Capt Starfox
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#161 - 2014-01-16 21:41:38 UTC
Kagura Nikon wrote:



But that is the point. If you get into PVP Very soon, you are ready for it, You will not rage quit (at least less likely) when you are ganked. Because you were more in connection with the reality of the game.


My bad, miss quote.

Abandon all hope ye who x up in fleet

Merrc
Project Omega Industries
Fraternity.
#162 - 2014-01-16 23:01:45 UTC
Doesnt anyone ever gank the ship that comes to collect the loot?
Paranoid Loyd
#163 - 2014-01-17 00:10:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Merrc wrote:
Doesnt anyone ever gank the ship that comes to collect the loot?


The looting alt would be available to engage for at most a few seconds, that combined with the need to know when and where the gank will happen makes your idea quite difficult.

Multiple times I have collect loot in a BR with a lock already on me and still made the escape, as you can align then scoop just before you warp. The caveat to this method is there is a chance you will click a little too late and warp away without the loot.

Your idea is certainly not impossible, but highly unlikely as it takes less effort to find and execute your own target then to follow around gankers that are well aware of their surroundings and would probably abort if they caught wind they were being followed.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Mister Simms
Society for Miner Education
#164 - 2014-01-17 00:35:13 UTC
Merrc wrote:
Doesnt anyone ever gank the ship that comes to collect the loot?


The gal that hauls for my small time ganking crew has been attacked on any number of occasions. So far, she has evaded destruction, although she had a very close call to to a persistent, and intelligent, capsuleer the other day. She is using a T1 Industrial.
Angelica Dreamstar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#165 - 2014-01-17 01:13:25 UTC
I just realized that the OP used the word "massacre" and doesn't understand what it means.

bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source)

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psycho freak
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#166 - 2014-01-17 01:44:05 UTC
Lol


some ppl farm npc

some ppl farm ppl who farm npc

my spelling sux brb find phone number for someone who gives a fu*k

nop cant find it

Ekkentros Mercari
EVE Landscape Services
#167 - 2014-01-17 02:09:51 UTC
Merrc wrote:
Doesnt anyone ever gank the ship that comes to collect the loot?

Yes. There was a great blog post , last year I think it was posted that described the mistake of some idiot that was trying to carry a PLEX. It turned out that the pilot had just looted it from a wreck and got popped before he could enter warp.

I've tried looking for it, but I can't find it. I can't even remember which blog it was on.

TL;DR: Don't reply.

Forando
Interstellar Cowards
#168 - 2014-01-17 04:50:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Forando
Really? I don't get the OP's argument here. But then again, when I joined, everyone was eager to teach me the following mantra: "Never fly something you can't afford to lose".

In EVE, ships are temporary. Undocking, is pretty much your consensus that you allow it to eventually turn into beautiful fireworks.
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#169 - 2014-01-17 06:27:41 UTC
I suggest that the OP confess all of his sins to James 315, buy a mining permit, and embrace the Code. He can read more at www.minerbumping.com

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.

Renegade Heart
Doomheim
#170 - 2014-01-17 06:37:11 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:
I suggest that the OP confess all of his sins to James 315, buy a mining permit, and embrace the Code. He can read more at www.minerbumping.com


Nice scam Mr Mayo. I wonder if I could sell ratting permits in null?

Big smile
Ekkentros Mercari
EVE Landscape Services
#171 - 2014-01-17 11:37:08 UTC
Renegade Heart wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:
I suggest that the OP confess all of his sins to James 315, buy a mining permit, and embrace the Code. He can read more at www.minerbumping.com


Nice scam Mr Mayo. I wonder if I could sell ratting permits in null?

Big smile

No reason why not. As long as you can enforce it, why not govern it? That's what James 315 did and it's worked out pretty well for him and his ilk.

TL;DR: Don't reply.

BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#172 - 2014-01-17 18:42:40 UTC
Renegade Heart wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:
I suggest that the OP confess all of his sins to James 315, buy a mining permit, and embrace the Code. He can read more at www.minerbumping.com


Nice scam Mr Mayo. I wonder if I could sell ratting permits in null?

Big smile

Well the attitude could use some improvement, but you probably could pull it off in a constellation or maybe even region. To go past that you would need a substantial force.

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Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#173 - 2014-01-17 20:14:33 UTC
Renegade Heart wrote:
Nice scam Mr Mayo. I wonder if I could sell ratting permits in null?

Big smile



Sure, Goons do it all the time.

Really, you didn't know?

Everything in EVE is a trap.

And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.

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Renegade Heart
Doomheim
#174 - 2014-01-17 22:47:39 UTC
Mike Adoulin wrote:
Renegade Heart wrote:
Nice scam Mr Mayo. I wonder if I could sell ratting permits in null?

Big smile



Sure, Goons do it all the time.

Really, you didn't know?


Yes 3 times they tried scamming me Evil
Haedonism Bot
People for the Ethical Treatment of Rogue Drones
#175 - 2014-01-17 23:58:44 UTC
Mike Adoulin wrote:
Renegade Heart wrote:
Nice scam Mr Mayo. I wonder if I could sell ratting permits in null?

Big smile



Sure, Goons do it all the time.

Really, you didn't know?


Isn't that what renting is?

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Ricter Chimera
Band of Builders Inc.
Intaki-Business Logistics Union
#176 - 2014-01-18 16:15:07 UTC
I wasn't going to chime in here.. Because I really don't have a leg to stand on, being in the game for a total of a whole month, but after chewing on the arguments that were presented, and doing some cross-forum reading, and the like, I think I may have.. something to say

Let's use this as an example:

I live in a gated community. Said community is patrolled hourly street by street by a private security company. All of a sudden there is a murder, an armed robbery, etc.. .in the community. Does that mean that The community needs to be redesigned so that NOBODY other than residents can get in? No. It means that people need to still take precautions to prevent things from happening.

Now, let's look at another example, and a very common one in our history

The Mafia, the goons, the hit squads, all being controlled by a crimelord or Don, or Leader of some form or another. Now every cop in town knows that the crimelord is behind all these murders, pillages, etc.. But they don't do anything about it.. Why? Because guess what? (back then anyway, and maybe some today as well) Public Officials have been bribed, elected officials bought, and political corruption runs rampant. Yes, cops are going to respond, but as soon as those bribes are made, they stop their pursuit.

Put those two things together, throw some spaceships in there, and what do you have? Criminals entering a high-security area, and doing as they please, then bribing officials (tags) to look the other way. Sure the cops (CONCORD) may respond, but as long as they get out in time, and then pass those bribes along, oh well..

It's the same darn thing. I'll be the first to admit that I suck at PvP. (I think I'm getting better, but only time will tell) But I know enough to keep myself alive, and it's simple common sense. Don't drive the Rolls Royce in the Hood. And if you absolutely have to, make sure you are always aware of your surroundings. Yes I've lost ships. Yes it's frustrated me to no end. But do I go to the local politicians, or the governor, or mayor, and complain that things need to be changed or I'm leaving? No, because in the grand scheme of things, that certain body (in this case, the developers) have a lot more to worry about than a single person in a population of great numbers. I'll likely be told "There's the Door, don't let it hit ya where the good lord split ya"

Instead, I treat every loss as a learning experience. What did I do wrong? What wasn't I paying attention to? Those two questions have gotten me far, and I bet they will you too.

my .02 ISK

Corthon
Original Sinners
Pandemic Legion
#177 - 2014-01-19 04:27:12 UTC
What a incredibly amusing thread. Lol
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#178 - 2014-01-30 08:40:48 UTC
Corthon wrote:
What a incredibly amusing thread. Lol


I think we all love it.

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Fumika Karusaka
Karusaka Family
#179 - 2014-01-30 09:10:45 UTC
After reading through this whole MESS....... I gave some thought as to what I want to say:

OP you have made your point in the first post, subsequently you have tried to force your belief of what this game should or should not be onto the community at large, by making groundless statements and baseless facts.

I now ask you on behalf of the community at large to unsub your account and go play something else.
It would save you a lot of time and energy and it would save me from having to read through threads such as this one, or alternatively you could keep playing EVE Online and enjoy it for what it is, preferably while not complaining about things.

Best Regards
FumikaBlink

Evil is not just an alignment, it's a perspective

Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#180 - 2014-01-30 09:47:40 UTC
I like making other people cry over exploded pixels, it says a lot more about them than about me :)

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