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Josh Tempelaar
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-01-11 02:31:47 UTC
So I've been playing for a month or so and been skilling up doing a great deal of mining trying to get some cash under my belt for the future. I decided for the first time today to go to low sec, I wanted to try check out some gas mining see what that was like, as I have been having no luck finding any gas clouds in high sec. So I pick a nice little low sec point not to far away and troll off with my retriever just to go check things out. I wasn't in there for 60 seconds when I got my first taste of pvp, lucky for me I didn't get poded but I think I'll be waiting a while longer before going back to low sec lol.
Mildew Wolf
#2 - 2014-01-11 02:37:44 UTC
You don't have to wait just take a proper ship (t1 frig or something) instead of a retriever. If you really must mine take a venture
Josh Tempelaar
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3 - 2014-01-11 02:43:24 UTC
Mildew Wolf wrote:
You don't have to wait just take a proper ship (t1 frig or something) instead of a retriever. If you really must mine take a venture


Yeah I figured, I was just having a look, haha wasn't ready for just how fast I lost my ship I guess. I have ALOT to learn.
Mildew Wolf
#4 - 2014-01-11 02:54:45 UTC
Josh Tempelaar wrote:
Mildew Wolf wrote:
You don't have to wait just take a proper ship (t1 frig or something) instead of a retriever. If you really must mine take a venture


Yeah I figured, I was just having a look, haha wasn't ready for just how fast I lost my ship I guess. I have ALOT to learn.


Yeah that's what I mean by t1 frig being a good choice. Everyone dies esp at first but they are fast and cheap good for roaming around and learn some stuff. You may even surprise yourself and kill something )))
Omega Sunset
Black.Omega
#5 - 2014-01-11 02:56:54 UTC
Josh Tempelaar wrote:
Mildew Wolf wrote:
You don't have to wait just take a proper ship (t1 frig or something) instead of a retriever. If you really must mine take a venture


Yeah I figured, I was just having a look, haha wasn't ready for just how fast I lost my ship I guess. I have ALOT to learn.

High sec/low sec borders can be fairly hostile. often in .4 to .5, wherever there is a gate leading between low and high. Might consider taking up probing some, use the WH network to travel out some, or in..

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Josh Tempelaar
State War Academy
Caldari State
#6 - 2014-01-11 03:19:49 UTC
Mildew Wolf wrote:
Josh Tempelaar wrote:
Mildew Wolf wrote:
You don't have to wait just take a proper ship (t1 frig or something) instead of a retriever. If you really must mine take a venture


Yeah I figured, I was just having a look, haha wasn't ready for just how fast I lost my ship I guess. I have ALOT to learn.


Yeah that's what I mean by t1 frig being a good choice. Everyone dies esp at first but they are fast and cheap good for roaming around and learn some stuff. You may even surprise yourself and kill something )))


I kinda like flying my retriever ( lazy i know ) Flying in a t1 rig seems rather pointless to me at least, bit of a shame there is a bit of an imbalance when it comes to such things, but that's the nature of the game risk vs reward. Be neat to be able to go into Low-sec or null-sec solo and haul a massive load of the more expensive ore, but if the risk wasn't there then the price wouldn't be any different, and thus it probably wouldn't be worth going the extra distance for. So it all evens out.
Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-01-11 03:45:30 UTC
Josh Tempelaar wrote:
Mildew Wolf wrote:
Josh Tempelaar wrote:
Mildew Wolf wrote:
You don't have to wait just take a proper ship (t1 frig or something) instead of a retriever. If you really must mine take a venture


Yeah I figured, I was just having a look, haha wasn't ready for just how fast I lost my ship I guess. I have ALOT to learn.


Yeah that's what I mean by t1 frig being a good choice. Everyone dies esp at first but they are fast and cheap good for roaming around and learn some stuff. You may even surprise yourself and kill something )))


I kinda like flying my retriever ( lazy i know ) Flying in a t1 rig seems rather pointless to me at least, bit of a shame there is a bit of an imbalance when it comes to such things, but that's the nature of the game risk vs reward. Be neat to be able to go into Low-sec or null-sec solo and haul a massive load of the more expensive ore, but if the risk wasn't there then the price wouldn't be any different, and thus it probably wouldn't be worth going the extra distance for. So it all evens out.


question

pointless? to you?
Risk vs Reward? Are you sure you are a noob? Sounds for me you`re trolling
Imbalance? Uhm ok dude Shocked
Not worth the extra distance? Aha hi,alt how are you! What?
Josh Tempelaar
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2014-01-11 03:48:07 UTC
Johan Civire wrote:
Josh Tempelaar wrote:
Mildew Wolf wrote:
Josh Tempelaar wrote:
Mildew Wolf wrote:
You don't have to wait just take a proper ship (t1 frig or something) instead of a retriever. If you really must mine take a venture


Yeah I figured, I was just having a look, haha wasn't ready for just how fast I lost my ship I guess. I have ALOT to learn.


Yeah that's what I mean by t1 frig being a good choice. Everyone dies esp at first but they are fast and cheap good for roaming around and learn some stuff. You may even surprise yourself and kill something )))


I kinda like flying my retriever ( lazy i know ) Flying in a t1 rig seems rather pointless to me at least, bit of a shame there is a bit of an imbalance when it comes to such things, but that's the nature of the game risk vs reward. Be neat to be able to go into Low-sec or null-sec solo and haul a massive load of the more expensive ore, but if the risk wasn't there then the price wouldn't be any different, and thus it probably wouldn't be worth going the extra distance for. So it all evens out.


question

pointless? to you?
Risk vs Reward? Are you sure you are a noob? Sounds for me you`re trolling
Imbalance? Uhm ok dude Shocked
Not worth the extra distance? Aha hi,alt how are you! What?


Pardon?
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#9 - 2014-01-11 03:53:49 UTC
Just to clarify,flying a Retriever into lowsec isn't PvP..its suicide.







Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Josh Tempelaar
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2014-01-11 03:56:25 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Just to clarify,flying a Retriever into lowsec isn't PvP..its suicide.










Yup found that out the hard way haha
Caviar Liberta
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2014-01-11 04:03:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Caviar Liberta
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Just to clarify,flying a Retriever into lowsec isn't PvP..its suicide.


If he had fitted it correctly to venture into low sec he might have been able to escape 1 ship and get back into high sec with his ship in 1 piece.
Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2014-01-11 05:40:10 UTC
This isn't the New Players forum and yet everyone is being surprisingly nice. This is still the Eve forums right?

Anyway, since we're being nice and all, your Retriever (along with being a terrible --hilarious-- choice for lowsec scouting) is also not suitable for gas harvesting. If you want to slurp the gas, use a Venture. They're made for it, and you might actually survive the gatecamp.

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Good Apollo BS4
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2014-01-11 05:55:20 UTC
Johan Civire wrote:
Josh Tempelaar wrote:
Mildew Wolf wrote:
Josh Tempelaar wrote:
Mildew Wolf wrote:
You don't have to wait just take a proper ship (t1 frig or something) instead of a retriever. If you really must mine take a venture


Yeah I figured, I was just having a look, haha wasn't ready for just how fast I lost my ship I guess. I have ALOT to learn.


Yeah that's what I mean by t1 frig being a good choice. Everyone dies esp at first but they are fast and cheap good for roaming around and learn some stuff. You may even surprise yourself and kill something )))


I kinda like flying my retriever ( lazy i know ) Flying in a t1 rig seems rather pointless to me at least, bit of a shame there is a bit of an imbalance when it comes to such things, but that's the nature of the game risk vs reward. Be neat to be able to go into Low-sec or null-sec solo and haul a massive load of the more expensive ore, but if the risk wasn't there then the price wouldn't be any different, and thus it probably wouldn't be worth going the extra distance for. So it all evens out.


question

pointless? to you?
Risk vs Reward? Are you sure you are a noob? Sounds for me you`re trolling
Imbalance? Uhm ok dude Shocked
Not worth the extra distance? Aha hi,alt how are you! What?


Neh not alt would bet reads forums while mining. Makes more exp sounding.

Recommend somer for when forum browsing gets boring lol.
Angelica Dreamstar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2014-01-11 08:12:35 UTC
Why do t1 frigs seem pointless to you?

Do you think you know better him, giving you actually solid advise?

bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source)

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Pipa Porto
#15 - 2014-01-11 08:28:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Pipa Porto
Josh Tempelaar wrote:
I kinda like flying my retriever ( lazy i know ) Flying in a t1 rig seems rather pointless to me at least, bit of a shame there is a bit of an imbalance when it comes to such things, but that's the nature of the game risk vs reward. Be neat to be able to go into Low-sec or null-sec solo and haul a massive load of the more expensive ore, but if the risk wasn't there then the price wouldn't be any different, and thus it probably wouldn't be worth going the extra distance for. So it all evens out.


T1 frigs are incredibly useful.

For mining, try the venture, and maybe try refining your ore in LS and getting someone else to move the minerals for you (or figuring out the safest way to do it yourself*) as those will be easier to move.


*The Kryos can be fit to perform the MWD+Cloak trick very easily.

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Big Lynx
#16 - 2014-01-11 11:04:25 UTC
@Mildew Wolf

That's what I call mantits!! Shocked
Grauth Thorner
Vicious Trading Company
#17 - 2014-01-11 13:35:15 UTC
Josh Tempelaar wrote:
Mildew Wolf wrote:
Josh Tempelaar wrote:
Mildew Wolf wrote:
You don't have to wait just take a proper ship (t1 frig or something) instead of a retriever. If you really must mine take a venture


Yeah I figured, I was just having a look, haha wasn't ready for just how fast I lost my ship I guess. I have ALOT to learn.


Yeah that's what I mean by t1 frig being a good choice. Everyone dies esp at first but they are fast and cheap good for roaming around and learn some stuff. You may even surprise yourself and kill something )))


I kinda like flying my retriever ( lazy i know ) Flying in a t1 rig seems rather pointless to me at least, bit of a shame there is a bit of an imbalance when it comes to such things, but that's the nature of the game risk vs reward. Be neat to be able to go into Low-sec or null-sec solo and haul a massive load of the more expensive ore, but if the risk wasn't there then the price wouldn't be any different, and thus it probably wouldn't be worth going the extra distance for. So it all evens out.

Hint: Get into a corp and don't solo in low/null. It's a lot more fun mining in a group as well so it's more or less a win-win.

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2014-01-11 13:36:55 UTC
Cue someone complaining about how mean lowsec players are and how they should be welcoming to new players in their territory.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#19 - 2014-01-11 13:48:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Ptraci
Josh Tempelaar wrote:
doing a great deal of mining trying to get some cash under my belt


This sentence is exactly what you are doing wrong. Mining is the LEAST profitable PvE thing you can do in EvE. The only way to make decent money mining is by going horizontally with several alt accounts. You would be better off in terms of isk/hr running lvl 3 or lvl 4 missions (most people prefer lvl 3's because they are faster to complete).

A retriever in low sec will get you the expected results. You were a victim and had absolutely no way to fight back (yeah, drones right?). Next time try going in a frigate with lots of guns, an afterburner fitted, DON'T take the first shot or the gate guns will kill you (unless your target is suspect or criminal), orbit someone at gun range, put a warp scram/disruptor on them and pew away. Fight will last longer, you'll have a chance of winning (until his 10 friends show up), and possibly enjoy PvP more.
Silvetica Dian
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2014-01-11 14:08:41 UTC
Josh Tempelaar wrote:
Mildew Wolf wrote:
Josh Tempelaar wrote:
Mildew Wolf wrote:
You don't have to wait just take a proper ship (t1 frig or something) instead of a retriever. If you really must mine take a venture


Yeah I figured, I was just having a look, haha wasn't ready for just how fast I lost my ship I guess. I have ALOT to learn.


Yeah that's what I mean by t1 frig being a good choice. Everyone dies esp at first but they are fast and cheap good for roaming around and learn some stuff. You may even surprise yourself and kill something )))


I kinda like flying my retriever ( lazy i know ) Flying in a t1 rig seems rather pointless to me at least, bit of a shame there is a bit of an imbalance when it comes to such things, but that's the nature of the game risk vs reward. Be neat to be able to go into Low-sec or null-sec solo and haul a massive load of the more expensive ore, but if the risk wasn't there then the price wouldn't be any different, and thus it probably wouldn't be worth going the extra distance for. So it all evens out.


If you had checked the ingame map to check player ships killed on your route and pilots in space in your target low system you would have seen the camp before you had gone there.
there is plenty of empty low sec or low sec with just miners /haulers/ PI /moon mining peeps.

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