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The Cursed Cursor Thing

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TangleTop Lennelluc
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-01-10 07:00:15 UTC
As a shiny faced Noob probably shouldn't be giving advice but I had a problem, did not see a whole lot about the problem and this is how I fixed it.
Problem: No cursor in the client. 1st fix, not the best: Ran in Windowed Mode, but didn't like it as the little ship thingy at the bottom got cut off. Best solution: Run in Fixed Window mode, just as good as full screen, everything is there and the mouse cursor is right there. Full disclosure: Did not figure this out in full brilliant mode, it took a few sessions.
Other issues: Pretty well blew off the whole tutorial thing, instructions too vague and way too linear for my tastes. Converted trial to full, got my little bonus ship, figured out how to actually take possession and now I'm out poking and prodding to see what I can see. I keep a journal, out of game, probably one in game but I'm not there yet, where I jot all the little questions, like where can I get training, how can I keep from getting blown away and have to go back to the beginning and just exactly how does one participate n the chat windows?
No doubt it will all come to me in time, but instant gratification doesn't seem to be an Eve Online attribute.
Archibald Thistlewaite III
The Royal Society for the Prevention of Miners
#2 - 2014-01-10 08:13:03 UTC
You really ought to do the tutorials. They don't take long, they will teach you some basics about the game and you'll end up with a few ships and a pile of isk to get you started.

You can enter different chats by clicking the speech bubble icon at the top of the chat window. Your other questions can be answered by doing the tutorials.

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#3 - 2014-01-10 12:01:20 UTC
Do the tutorials...

They teach you the basics of the game and UI.
They also give you a good amount of free skillbooks, ships and ISK (Blood Stained Stars Epic Arc gives roughly between 10 - 15 million ISK depending on how fast you do the missions and if you loot/salvage them)

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Oraac Ensor
#4 - 2014-01-10 13:05:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Oraac Ensor
Do the tutorials...

You won't progress very fast if you can't even be bothered to learn the basics.
Noxisia Arkana
Deadspace Knights
#5 - 2014-01-10 13:52:47 UTC
You start with 5,000 isk. If you don't do the tutorials you will have trouble figuring out how to buy stuff off of the market (because you don't have any cash). Not to mention the tutorials teach you a very basic concept: NPCs will give you money after you do stuff for them. Helpful until you find a 'path.'
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-01-10 20:13:31 UTC
Basically everyone above me is correct. If it is your first time playing, you NEED to do the tutorials. The money and items they give are not feasibly obtainable in a noob ship with only civilian modules in a similar time frame.

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Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#7 - 2014-01-10 20:36:11 UTC
TangleTop Lennelluc wrote:
...but instant gratification doesn't seem to be an Eve Online attribute.

Which clearly is one of the best traits of this game.

Also: Do the tutorials.

And do the SOE epic arc.

Remove standings and insurance.

Paul Otichoda
Perkone
Caldari State
#8 - 2014-01-10 22:04:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Paul Otichoda
TangleTop Lennelluc wrote:
like where can I get training


Ok in the most basic form EVE online uses a real time skill training systems. Eg if a skill says it needs 24 hours to train it is going to need 24 hours of real time not game time to learn that skill. Skill can be selected to be trained from the skill queue in the character sheet (click on your portrait to bring it up and move though the tabs). Up to 24 hours worth of skill can be queued in the queue but you will find that many skill need training times longer than 24 hours. It is important to realise that the higher a skill is the better it is but the training time needed to move up a level get longer.

These skills can be unlocked to be learned by consuming skill books which can be brought on the market for ISK. However it is a good idea to do the tutorial missions since they will give you the basic skill books that you'll need.

And yes the EVE initial tutorial is well known for being terrible. I understand its been improved massively its still very confusing for new players.

TangleTop Lennelluc wrote:
, how can I keep from getting blown away and have to go back to the beginning


could you explain more about what you mean here? There is several possibilities here about what happened but without knowing more we can't help you.
Winter Archipelago
Autumn Industrial Enterprises
#9 - 2014-01-10 22:59:35 UTC
TangleTop Lennelluc wrote:
how can I keep from getting blown away and have to go back to the beginning

You can't prevent yourself from losing your ship if the other person really, really wants you dead. You can reduce the likelihood of losing your ship through improving fittings and learning about various game mechanics, but you cannot make yourself 100% all-powerful: Even the largest and most powerful ships in the games (Titans) are vulnerable.

As for having to 'go back to the beginning,' you can mitigate your losses somewhat by insuring your ship up to platinum if you expect to lose it (or even if you don't, really), to get most of the cost of the hull back, and if you train some basics into salvaging, you can make a fair bit of side-ISK from salvaging other peoples' wrecks. Whether you salvage them with or without their permission is entirely up to you. There's a chat channel in-game that caters to new players looking for free salvage, but I'd be damned if I could remember it right now.

Eventually, long-term and dedicated players will have a second character (sometimes on their primary account, other times as a second account entirely) and will focus on a money-making activity such as Planetary Interaction, Factional Warfare, and Market Trading, but that's a bit out of your time just yet (the second account, that is: getting involved in those aspects of the game can be done from Day 1).

If you want to improve and reduce the risk of losing your ship, three major sources of info that I would recommend are the Piloting in Practice section of Failheap Challenge's forum, the Tracking and Spiraling video by Agony Unleashed, and the recorded classes from EvE University.

If you're just looking for information, check out EvE University's wiki. They have a wealth of information that is difficult to rival in any other publicly-accessible site.

TangleTop Lennelluc wrote:
instant gratification doesn't seem to be an Eve Online attribute.

Honestly, this is one of EvE's strongest aspects.
TangleTop Lennelluc
Doomheim
#10 - 2014-01-15 06:58:14 UTC
Thanks a bunch for all the responses, but when I badmouthed the tuts it was only for the first little two mission thing. I've sense hooked up with a career agent and picking up stuff like a magnet in a scrap metal box. Biggest problem I have with Eve (note sarcasm mode here, for those whose scanners don't work on that wave band) is it forces one to think, not only in the here and now but strategically, future stuff. Best thing about EOL is I can do it when I want, as little or as much as I want, and that's a good thing when there are multiple passions competing for steadily diminishing life span.