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Highsec PvP-ers needed for foreverwar against Goons

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Anomaly One
Doomheim
#81 - 2014-01-10 02:56:55 UTC
You can do anything with infinite money (isk), do you have infinite money (isk)?

Never forget. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8sfaN8zT8E http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5l_ZjVyRxx4 Trust me, I'm an Anomaly. DUST 514 FOR PC
Professor Clio
Apocalypse Lancers
#82 - 2014-01-10 03:37:31 UTC
Tarsas Phage wrote:
Powers Sa wrote:
Danalee wrote:

For instance, there are many mercs in hisec. If you could combine all these merc groups for a prolonged attack on goon pocos you could hurt their morale (make sure to invite groups like PIRAT/Dark Homeworld, they - Like Marmites - have some experience welping goons http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=20652088)

More like Dunked Homeworld, am i right?


I'd say they did p. good against a combined force that was almost 3x their size.


Losing 10x as much isk (more actually we also got a blinged out Loki trying to flee in the system next door thats not on the BR) as you kill while fielding a more expensive (if smaller) fleet is your definition of pretty good?
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#83 - 2014-01-10 04:14:14 UTC
Zappity wrote:

You are taking it all so seriously! It's hilarious! Silence would have conveyed disdain much more effectively, that's all.

where's the fun in that

besides, subtle disdain is sort of pointless when you're dealing with someone who just plain gets people like randian superhero gevlon does

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
dilly nay
State War Academy
Caldari State
#84 - 2014-01-10 04:48:38 UTC
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
One and a half year ago Goonswarm wardecced Jade Constantine. Yes, a player. He dared to talk about the Goons without complete obedience and servitude, so The Mittani declared that any corp that dares to take him will be forever wardecced by Goonswarm. Jade's current alliance had 100 members. GSF had 9000.

Instead of running away from this prime case of bully, Jade requested allies. The new wardec system allowed infinite number of allies to join a wardecced corp. And this is more or less what happened. Hundreds rallied for the opportunity to pop Goons, as they are famous for their incompetence and arrogance. The war went from bully into rout in days. The forums filled with Goon tears demanding a fix. Since the purpose was to create mercenary marketplace, the ability to call infinite allies were removed.

Since then, Goonswarm is safe in highsec. Declaring war on them has 500M/week cost, making it impossible to upkeep for a small sized highsec PvP group. This is about to change.

I don't like Goons. As you can see, I'm in the Science and Trade Institute, despite I'm in the game for almost two years. I'm trading or doing PI. That makes me a carebear pubbie shitlord who should be slaughtered like some animal and driven away from the game according to Goons. It also means I have ISK. I made more than 500B in my EVE career, spent about 150B on ill-conceived nullsec plans and PLEX-ing accounts. The rest is in cash and assets. Time to make good use of it.

I'm looking for a capable highsec PvP corp/alliance to take up the banner against Goonswarm. I want this group to form an open alliance, one that accepts any corp that has highsec PvP killboard history and not a Goon ally. Kick only inactives and awoxers, not corps you had quarrel over some Falcon. Note: alliance mates can't shoot each other in highsec like corpmates. This ragtag alliance will be at war with Goonswarm, forever.

All costs + paying for your effort is on me. If you take on this task and form this alliance, I pay you 1B every week as long as you keep up the war and don't abuse your executor power to exclude anyone from shooting Goons. If the alliance goes well and enough Goons die, we can expand our scope and wardec notable Goon pets (FA, RAZOR, Gents...).

What makes me think there are Goons to shoot in highsec? Because I started an altcorp and decced Goons. Went on shooting a Goon POCO (Lonetrek is littered with them) and in short order Goons arrived to defend it. I lost the fight of course as I have no clue about PvP. But you know how to fight. Also, I counted 35 Goons undocking Jita yesterday in an hour. Since no one can afford to wardec them, they grown fat and lazy. I guess they even have missioners in Golems (*snip* Posting of kill reports outside of the Crime & Punishment forum channel is prohibited. Yes, even by proxy. ISD Ezwal). Oh, did I forget the juicy freighters? They have a lot.

Read the link above about the Jade Constantine war. Take a swim in their tears! Want this back? Want to dunk on the largest and "most powerful" alliance of EVE? Then this is your time! Comment here if you want to be the executor of this alliance (I can provide an Empire Control 5 alt if needed). Earn your well-deserved ISK while spearheading the massacre of bees!

PS: just a small advice, if you are in war with the Goons, name your ships "Slowcat"! That alone makes them crying rivers.


You should reconsider how you allocate your attention because you have enshrined that which you vouch to destroy- making this "rp"full display very phishy.
Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#85 - 2014-01-10 05:37:04 UTC
5 pages already, 90% of them are Goons+SMA pet want to talk me out of it. Including 2 directors + Mynnna himself.

Can anyone think of a better reason why it must be made?!

My blog: greedygoblin.blogspot.com
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#86 - 2014-01-10 05:49:40 UTC
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
I RF-ed a POCO (in Iyen-Oursta, Saturday 0:35) and no less man than Mynnna threatened of forming a 60man fleet to defend it.

If you feel "threatened" too, talk to your CEO about forming/joining. Let the Goons feel the same love they spread!


See, if I wanted to **** off Goons, I'd show up at the timer in local, trashtalk about how 60 people showed up for nothing, then log my alt on to reinforce a different POCO.

Instead, you've gone and given them exactly the forum p*rn they thrive on.

I really hope that someone takes you up on this, then steals all of the resources you give the 'alliance' and uses it to buy their way into Goons... or better yet, loses it to a Goon recruitment scam.


Also: GRR GOONS!

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Istyn
Freight Club
#87 - 2014-01-10 05:56:39 UTC
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
5 pages already, 90% of them are Goons+SMA pet want to talk me out of it. Including 2 directors + Mynnna himself.

Can anyone think of a better reason why it must be made?!


I really can't see you getting anyone competent to agree to accepting anyone that applies.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#88 - 2014-01-10 05:59:37 UTC
OP - you claim to have 500 billion ISK.

Contact NC, buy yourself an Archon pilot, buy them a decently fit Archon and low-grade slaves, and fight alongside NC in the war. Or hell, buy yourself a supercarrier pilot, HG slaves and a supercarrier.

You might turn the tide of a battle. If not, you'll make for a hilarious killmail.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#89 - 2014-01-10 06:17:05 UTC
Istyn wrote:

I really can't see you getting anyone competent to agree to accepting anyone that applies.


Who said they should accept anyone into themselves?

Why not make it a satellite alliance with official endorsement?
The alliance executor and the director of the default corp (that takes individual pilots) are alts from directors of the real alliance.
The satellite alliance gets decent leadership and FCs. The real alliance gets a pool for recruitment, meat shield (their losses aren't on your killboard) and decoy: Goon sees war target and has to click-click to figure out if it's a good PvP-er or just an angry carebear alt. Click-Click is a long time in terms of interceptors warp speed.

My blog: greedygoblin.blogspot.com
Don Purple
Snuggle Society
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#90 - 2014-01-10 06:33:02 UTC
shutup and give me money!

I am just here to snuggle and do spy stuff.
Lilan Kahn
The Littlest Hobos
The Whale Hunters Association
#91 - 2014-01-10 06:50:39 UTC
Istyn wrote:
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
5 pages already, 90% of them are Goons+SMA pet want to talk me out of it. Including 2 directors + Mynnna himself.

Can anyone think of a better reason why it must be made?!


I really can't see you getting anyone competent to agree to accepting anyone that applies.


oh i dont know....
Unforgiven Storm
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
#92 - 2014-01-10 07:04:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Unforgiven Storm
When I think I read it all from you, Jesus... This obsession you have for us just reached a new level. You need help.

The good news is, that for your case help is readily available.

With the support of family and friends, plus therapy or medication recommended by a doctor, it is possible to overcome your problem...

Sincerely, get some help.

Unforgiven Storm for CSM 9, 10, 11, 12 and 13. (If I don't get in in the next 5 years I will quit trying) :-)
Istyn
Freight Club
#93 - 2014-01-10 07:54:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Istyn
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
Istyn wrote:

I really can't see you getting anyone competent to agree to accepting anyone that applies.


Who said they should accept anyone into themselves?

Why not make it a satellite alliance with official endorsement?
The alliance executor and the director of the default corp (that takes individual pilots) are alts from directors of the real alliance.
The satellite alliance gets decent leadership and FCs. The real alliance gets a pool for recruitment, meat shield (their losses aren't on your killboard) and decoy: Goon sees war target and has to click-click to figure out if it's a good PvP-er or just an angry carebear alt. Click-Click is a long time in terms of interceptors warp speed.


This isn't how any merc corp/alliance director thinks. There isn't really any part of that example that they would see as a benefit - their losses aren't on the 'real' killboard sure, but neither are any kills they get.

High sec mercs basically think on the basis of killboard-penis measuring. Unless you can work out some way to have the alliance open without affecting the length of their johnson, you're better off hiring someone on a near-permanent basis.
Lilan Kahn
The Littlest Hobos
The Whale Hunters Association
#94 - 2014-01-10 08:01:24 UTC
Istyn wrote:
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
Istyn wrote:

I really can't see you getting anyone competent to agree to accepting anyone that applies.


Who said they should accept anyone into themselves?

Why not make it a satellite alliance with official endorsement?
The alliance executor and the director of the default corp (that takes individual pilots) are alts from directors of the real alliance.
The satellite alliance gets decent leadership and FCs. The real alliance gets a pool for recruitment, meat shield (their losses aren't on your killboard) and decoy: Goon sees war target and has to click-click to figure out if it's a good PvP-er or just an angry carebear alt. Click-Click is a long time in terms of interceptors warp speed.


This isn't how any merc corp/alliance director thinks. There isn't really any part of that example that they would see as a benefit - their losses aren't on the 'real' killboard sure, but neither are any kills they get.

High sec mercs basically think on the basis of killboard-***** measuring. Unless you can work out some way to have the alliance open without affecting the length of their johnson, you're better off hiring someone on a near-permanent basis.


Well i got an alliance i am not using that i can setup to kill goons for any one that want to join
Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#95 - 2014-01-10 11:13:33 UTC
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
5 pages already, 90% of them are Goons+SMA pet want to talk me out of it. Including 2 directors + Mynnna himself.

Can anyone think of a better reason why it must be made?!

Do you actually believe this? I mean the THEYRE COMMENTING THEREFORE THEY R SCURRED was inevitable, but do you actually believe this?

I mean it. How do you rationalise anything you say? You dig yourself into these statements over and over again, stating things as absolutes. When it turns out all the people "just trolling" were right, you simply act like it never happened.

Essentially 95% of everything you've ever stated would happen, has transpired to be the literal opposite of what came to pass.

So I ask again - when it fails this time (and it will) who are you going to blame?

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#96 - 2014-01-10 11:16:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Khanh'rhh
Like, you just don't get it, and apparently have swallowed the Jade Constantine narrative hook, line and sinker. Do you even realise a forever war with highsec was the literal goal of most of those wardecs? That it wasn't Goonswarm that complained? You've read some hilariously vitriolic nonsense and accepted it at face value, and have concluded the answer is more vitriolic nonsense.

The absolute best case scenario for your plan here, is that you pay to give us a forever war with the whole of highsec. That's a highly positive outcome for us.

What does this even look like in your head.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#97 - 2014-01-10 11:24:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Khanh'rhh
Whilst I have your attention I have a quick question. I'm putting together a tackle-titan and I'm wondering if I should made the point officer, or whether faction would be good enough.

Apparently you have a really good EFT-warriored fit around so I thought I would ask for advice.

Sorry for wandering off topic.

e: in case you're missing the subtlety, this is an example of "Things I know better than anyone else by Gevlon" you've come up with in the past.

e2: Last time you were on Eve-O it was for "my corp based on donations will rule the galaxy" -- so related question, did all 3 members take over the galaxy or is that a WiP still?

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Arkady Romanov
Whole Squid
#98 - 2014-01-10 11:27:53 UTC
As a hurr-durr Goon linemember sockpuppet, I naturally agree with everything you said Khanh. I mean, you used 3 posts in a row and everything.

Whole Squid: Get Inked.
Jane Kelier
Whalers Hunting Lodge
The Whale Hunters Association
#99 - 2014-01-10 12:18:54 UTC
The Whale Hunters Association is willing to undertake this project pending isk
Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#100 - 2014-01-10 12:23:32 UTC
Jane Kelier wrote:
The Whale Hunters Association is willing to undertake this project pending isk

Why would an organisation that seemingly hunts extra-large mammals want to come aft...

Oh.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,