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Taint Stain
Doomheim
#81 - 2014-01-07 13:24:10 UTC
Janna Windforce wrote:


They don't instawarp. You have minimum 1 tick to lock and point, your camp has no resebos? Your problem.
But you are saying that interceptors almost always made it through along with covops (so basically nothing that can really hurt you), so you are just mad that you can't catch those "noobs" you keep talking about?



It takes the server 1 tick to broadcast that the interceptor has started to decloak/warp it takes a second tick for your client to lock and point it, so if your target has an align to warp under 2 it is impossible to point at any scan resolution. It is hilarious when people attempt to defend mechanics that they don't even know.
Janna Windforce
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#82 - 2014-01-07 13:38:51 UTC
Taint Stain wrote:

It takes the server 1 tick to broadcast that the interceptor has started to decloak/warp it takes a second tick for your client to lock and point it, so if your target has an align to warp under 2 it is impossible to point at any scan resolution. It is hilarious when people attempt to defend mechanics that they don't even know.


Like you have an idea what I know and what I don't. So you specialize your ship for super-align and get away, what's wrong with it? That you cannot specialize in the opposite to prevent this? Well tough luck I guess, the traveller is going through, big deal?
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#83 - 2014-01-07 13:54:04 UTC
Janna Windforce wrote:
Like you have an idea what I know and what I don't. So you specialize your ship for super-align and get away, what's wrong with it? That you cannot specialize in the opposite to prevent this? Well tough luck I guess, the traveller is going through, big deal?


I described about whats wrong with it, didnt I?
There shouldnt be idiot proof vessel for safe travel in 0.0.
Stevez Ftw
Tradors'R'us
IChooseYou Alliance
#84 - 2014-01-07 14:04:38 UTC
No hips should be invulnerable to mobile bubbles.
Odithia
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#85 - 2014-01-07 14:49:34 UTC
Robert Caldera wrote:

There shouldnt be idiot proof vessel for safe travel in 0.0.

What about all kind of jump?

Or should risk free travel be limited to the veteran so you can keep ganking the newbs?
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#86 - 2014-01-07 15:04:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Robert Caldera
Odithia wrote:
What about all kind of jump?

bad enough it exists but jumping is kinda ok with me.
Jumping ships costs fuel, requires an expensive ship, cyno and if you fck up you potentially loose billions.
Jumping via clone is ok too, has its downsides, costs time, someone to pod you, ISK every time you move, you cant move things you can for example clone jump just once a day, deathcloning costs you ISK, a pod lossmail or 2 minutes delay for selfdestruct, every time you do it and you only can deathclone to few locations not fly freely around.

Odithia wrote:
Or should risk free travel be limited to the veteran so you can keep ganking the newbs?

risk free shouldnt be there at all but yeah experienced people will always know how to mitigate the risks, the rest should die and learn from it, there shouldnt be an idiot proof ship for that only experience and knowledge how the game works.
John XIII
The Carnifex Corp
#87 - 2014-01-08 04:10:51 UTC
The intey changes have given people that never dared the ability to check out nullsec with a better than average chance of survival. If for no other reason these changes were a brilliant stroke IMO.

+1 for nullsec tourism and a healthier pvp food chain!

Between Ignorance and Wisdom
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#88 - 2014-01-08 10:17:17 UTC
they already had that, with nullified T3 very easy.
Janna Windforce
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#89 - 2014-01-08 11:37:19 UTC
Robert Caldera wrote:
they already had that, with nullified T3 very easy.


I'm sure nobody who was not in nullsec before is going to risk their T3, if they even have any.
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#90 - 2014-01-09 11:11:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Robert Caldera
remove bubble immunity.
this game turned into interceptors online.

This interdiction nullification bullsh*t should never been implemented at all for anything, its game breaking.
TotalRapeage
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#91 - 2014-01-09 11:39:13 UTC
Robert Caldera wrote:
remove bubble immunity.
this game turned into interceptors online.

This interdiction nullification bullsh*t should never been implemented at all for anything, its game breaking.



I have a better idea, let's not remove bubble immunity from the game, but instead remove crybabies like yourself who are unable to adapt and use your noggin.. Learn to play the game son.

Your probably some **** poor no skill gate camper using insta lock links, I say remove that crap before removing nullifiers.
Janna Windforce
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#92 - 2014-01-09 12:57:48 UTC
TotalRapeage wrote:
I have a better idea, let's not remove bubble immunity from the game, but instead remove crybabies like yourself who are unable to adapt and use your noggin.. Learn to play the game son.

Your probably some **** poor no skill gate camper using insta lock links, I say remove that crap before removing nullifiers.


Let me help you here hint.
Skelee VI
Appetite 4 Destruction
#93 - 2014-01-09 17:03:12 UTC
The insta warp has made them really hard to catch! So sucks on the pvp hunting side! But no worries
Jester Cap
A better day
#94 - 2014-01-09 21:05:45 UTC
TotalRapeage wrote:
Robert Caldera wrote:
remove bubble immunity.
this game turned into interceptors online.

This interdiction nullification bullsh*t should never been implemented at all for anything, its game breaking.



I have a better idea, let's not remove bubble immunity from the game, but instead remove crybabies like yourself who are unable to adapt and use your noggin.. Learn to play the game son.

Your probably some **** poor no skill gate camper using insta lock links, I say remove that crap before removing nullifiers.


Agreed
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#95 - 2014-01-09 21:17:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Robert Caldera
TotalRapeage wrote:

I have a better idea, let's not remove bubble immunity from the game, but instead remove crybabies like yourself who are unable to adapt and use your noggin.. Learn to play the game son.

Your probably some **** poor no skill gate camper using insta lock links, I say remove that crap before removing nullifiers.


looks like you dont like risk when moving around in 0.0.
Jester Cap
A better day
#96 - 2014-01-09 22:06:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Jester Cap
Robert Caldera wrote:
TotalRapeage wrote:

I have a better idea, let's not remove bubble immunity from the game, but instead remove crybabies like yourself who are unable to adapt and use your noggin.. Learn to play the game son.

Your probably some **** poor no skill gate camper using insta lock links, I say remove that crap before removing nullifiers.


looks like you dont like risk when moving around in 0.0.


Yeah, i think TotalRapeage made it clear what isnt liked and risk in null isnt one of them.

Gatecamps by no(piloting)skill players with 25 Falcon alts, remote SeBo and off grid boost on the other hand are quite destructive to the game imho.
STSxLight
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
#97 - 2014-01-10 11:30:47 UTC
I had great succes in killing ceptros in my omen. Got a 28 k optimal and a med neut, so if any come close i neut them out, if they orbit wide you need to manual fly a bit so you can track them.

RML caracal can do the job to, HAM caracal with javs maby(with good missile support skills) .

Maby a rail thorax?

I feel you still need to have a medium neut on every cruiser within the new meta.

You also need to be fast so you can separate things on grid.

(IN THE FUTURE)

If they actualy implement the new MJD things (and ignore the 40 pages of hate on the Features and ideas post) then if a ceptor has you long point on you, just mdj out :)) ..... i personaly hope they dont.

"Oh, you think nullsec is your ally. But you merely adopted nullsec; I was born in it, moulded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but BLINDING!"

my eve youtube channel  http://www.youtube.com/user/stsxlight/videos
Reuqh Dew
Anasta.
#98 - 2014-01-10 12:03:17 UTC
Robert Caldera wrote:

looks like you dont like risk when moving around in 0.0.


Says guy without any PvP history.
I suspect you don't post with your main, because you're one of those guys who just camp gates all day long with falcons and bail when equally sized gang is around. I might be wrong though.
Mark Hadden
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#99 - 2014-01-10 12:07:43 UTC
Reuqh Dew wrote:
Robert Caldera wrote:

looks like you dont like risk when moving around in 0.0.


Says guy without any PvP history.
I suspect you don't post with your main, because you're one of those guys who just camp gates all day long with falcons and bail when equally sized gang is around. I might be wrong though.

yeah its my alt, used to post with that toon on forums and kept the tradition for long time.
Reuqh Dew
Anasta.
#100 - 2014-01-10 12:55:14 UTC
Mark Hadden wrote:
Reuqh Dew wrote:
Robert Caldera wrote:

looks like you dont like risk when moving around in 0.0.


Says guy without any PvP history.
I suspect you don't post with your main, because you're one of those guys who just camp gates all day long with falcons and bail when equally sized gang is around. I might be wrong though.

yeah its my alt, used to post with that toon on forums and kept the tradition for long time.


So I _was_ wrong. It happens.

To get fights, maybe you should downgrade from T2 dessies and Sentinels to something that isn't a counter to most frigs.

Ceptors have always been good at escaping small camps with a bubble, so I don't really see how this is suddenly a huge deal. Only thing this affects is bigger camps, but I don't feel any sympathy for that and there should be more counters to those.

Unless... you only fly with links and now you're pissed because your Sabre can't catch everything that comes from the gate. Again, just an assumption. Big smile