Ships & Modules

if you live in a totally hostile territory you dont fly around in a ship people want to fight since there wont be good fight anyways in most cases, so you fly a ship you can gank stuff with and get out quickly. 90% of hostiles dont want a fair fight and outside of big roaming gangs they fly something (seemingly)hard to catch, earlier it were cloakies (reason why I started flying sabre), nowadays its iterceptors.


not true in any case, a well placed bubble stopped an interceptor 15-20km off gate where you could kill it, today they simply click jump, warp and basically dont even have to give a fck about anything apart of a smartbombing battleship which is pretty ineffective and hence uncommon.

Eve is fundamentally a game about risks - balancing them, accepting them, and mitigating them. Anything that is risk free, or the risk is so low that it is negligible, has no place in Eve.

As for all those complaining about gate camps, they are a part of Eve too. People talk all the time about how miners or ratters should get some PVPers to protect them and keep them safe. All well and good… securing an entry point is one way to play defense. When a properly equipped gate camp cannot stop the threat from getting through the gate on anything approaching a consistent basis, then the balance is off.

Based on my experience (including my alts), the balance is just a bit off for interceptors. I have one alt who basically only flies interceptors or interdictors. I love it when blockade runners, covert ops or bombers fly through, because I have a chance to catch them. I don't catch them every time, but enough that it is sporting. If they move properly, I don't manage to decloak them with my single interdictor. With interceptors, it is a different story. I can remote sensor boost her with another alt and have a shot at catching the poorly fit interceptors. The properly fit ones cannot be caught at all.

People have also brought up smart bombs as the answer. My tests have indicated that an interceptor, properly fit, can warp off before a smart bombing battleship can run enough cycles to kill them. If someone is using smart bombing ships to good effect to stop interceptors from getting through, I would love to see some of those kills, so please link them.

I am opposed to low risk travel in 0.0. Personally, I hate cloaky nullified T3s as well. I'd love to see jump freighters removed, or make it so they couldn't jump out of high sec. Moving large ships or expensive ships should require friends, scouts, and coordination. Those are topics for another thread, but I throw them out here to show where I stand.

interceptor bubble immunity is OP.

make? it IS true, no need to make anything.

And what you get besides that? Miniscule firepower. So it kind of works like you'd expect from Interceptor, right? Catching enemy ships...

P.S.: Leopard is warping faster.

10% agility nerf is scheduled for 1.1

Looks like the OP crowd were correct

Good change nothing major but brings the balance back a bit.

Seems intuative that a "good balance" would be one that effects the most a out of balance in the largest way. That is how % based changes work. If the change were a flat reduction by x amount it might well be a better adjustment overall. Someone with better math analysis skills would be better to make that call. But really it seems such a small nerf overall that the narrowed band between most agile and least agile interceptor seems a very small point in the scheme of things.

On a side note, I would love to see before and after align times for combat and travel fit inties. That is if anyone with those previously mentioned math skills had them already worked out.

Call me optimistic perhaps, but if even the "normal" fit ones can be grabbed in the 2 tick time frame is be OK with the speed fit ones escaping. But when even another inti can't begin to get the point, there is something flawed.

The problem is that the new Intie bubble immunity is a binary thing; you either have it or you don't and THAT means it suddenly changes the landscape to just one ship type, which apart from being boring as hell is inherently imbalanced.

It also means that solo PVP finally died, for real. It's extra ironic that it happened on kil2's watch, let me explain.

Most solo pvp is done in kiting ships (apart from the "lets bust this camp and take down as many as I can" roams), kiting relies on two factors: 1) out maneuvre stuff you can't out dps, 2) out DPS stuff you can't out maneuvre. So if you ran into s small camp it'll have cruisers/BC etc those you can outrun and toy with and the 1 or 2 tackle inties you couldn't outrun but you could separate them and kill them before the rest would show up. NOW you don't see 1 or 2 tackle inties with a gang, you see whole gangs of combat inties, which you can't out run and can't out dps.

So yeah, solo pvp is pretty much dead, UNLESS you fly an intie and even then you still get swarmed. Either way, "must use T2 ship" is terrible power creep.