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question on jump clones

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Jonathan Storm
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2014-01-08 17:53:03 UTC
I am an Old/new player and finally have the faction to install jump clones. So my question is about leaving a clone behind. So I have a jump clone installed in a station with high enough standing, great. When I decided I want to jump clone do I have to leave my current clone in a station with sufficient standing? I kind of assume I have to leave the clone behind in a station or ship with clone bays, but if not, what about a ship, like my covert op ship in 0.0? So now I have two, or more, clones that are anywhere, assuming I don’t get podded and have to make a new jump clone? I read the guide and it wasn’t specific or clear to me on the leaving a clone somewhere.

Thanks for the help.
Eram Fidard
Doomheim
#2 - 2014-01-08 18:01:24 UTC
You can only jump to another clone while docked in station, in capsule, with skill training paused. You can jump from any station, but only to established clones (in a station or clone vat bay). I think that covers your questions, respond if there's more.

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Degnar Oskold
Moira.
#3 - 2014-01-08 18:06:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Degnar Oskold
When you create a jump clone, you remain in your current clone.

So lets say that you are currently in Clone A. You create a jump clone (Clone B). in, say, the Eha system, by docking at the station there. You are still in Clone A at this point.

Now you can travel to any other system in EVE, dock anywhere where you are allowed to dock, and then jump into Clone B.

So, while in Clone A, you travel to Jita. In Jita, you dock up, leave your ship (so you are in your capsule), you then pause your skill training and jump into Clone B.

The client will now load you into Clone B, so you will appear inside the station in Eha. You can now undock from Eha (don't forget to resume your skill training!)

If you get podded while in Clone B, your Clone B will be recreated at whichever station is set to be your respawn location. You will still have two clones, Clone A (in Jita where you left it) and Clone B at your respawn location.

This means that being podded does not decrease the number of jump clones that you have. The only way to lose a jump clone is to manually destroy it through the jump clone interface, or by having two jumo clones inside the same station (when you jump into one of them, the other will be destroyed).

You only need standing to make the clone. You can switch between clones anywhere at all, all you have to be able to do is dock at a station and then you can jump into any existing clone in the universe.

If you have a jump clone that is at a station that you are not allowed to dock at, you can still jump clone into the clone. All that will happen is that when you undock, you will not be allowed to redock at that station, and you can also not use station services such as fitting.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#4 - 2014-01-08 19:07:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Standing is only checked to create a clone at a station. You can move and leave the clone anywhere after that.

There is a good back-story why there is a standing requirement, but it boils down to trust.

My favourite chronicle is "Jita 4-4"

Jita 4-4 wrote:
Which brings us to the second thing that eventually dawns, and on an diminishing scale now, down to the thousands. The second realization is that capsuleers can die. They are not immortal.

Many of my kind refuse to acknowledge this, but it is quite obvious. Standard capsuleer re-cloning relies on the use of mind-state transfer technology, which transfers consciousness from one highly controlled environment to another; Body A inside a capsule (an “egg”) and Body B (for Plan B) in a cloning facility.

The important phrase here is highly controlled environment. You can't say it is anything else. A scanner pores over your brain, capturing every last thought, every memory, every personality defect, and it does this why? Because your capsule was breached.

Because someone just proved how fragile that egg really is.

And that cloning facility you wake up in?

That cloning facility is surrounded by some of the most high-clearance people in the field - these invisible caretakers who oversee the rebirth of the universe's elite. They have a job with an importance like no other in our world, and with it, surveillance and monitoring you won't see anywhere else either. They are the real bodyguards. If a corporate CEO is waking up in one of these facilities, his contingent on the ground have already failed, and this, the most sacred of contingency plans, now depends on the people in the white suits. Obviously, not everyone is comfortable with that, least of all us capsuleers who won't often admit how tenuous our grip on everything really is.

Why? Because these people in white suits could make things go horribly wrong for you and me.

I think the reason we've started installing cloning vats on our largest, most powerful ships has less to do with logistics and more to do with trust issues.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#5 - 2014-01-08 19:37:10 UTC
Read this:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=299279&find=unread

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