Ships & Modules

best looking, worst performance.

what about a long range warp scrambler only bonus, having say, a 30km-45km warp scrambler, might help 1. dictate range to go with its tracking bonus, & 2. somewhat feared for long pointed & abilty of turning MWD's off.

Obviously, is suseptible to drones, but hey, every ship needs a weakness of sorts.....


again, just throwing the idea out there.

true, then they will just have to adjust its cap issues as well.

Its the corpses on the spikes!

The pirate ship lines are the least balanced in all of Eve. Phantasm just happens to be the poster child for the low end of it. Similar to all of the Mach threads, the poster child of the high end of the imbalance.

In my opinion...


Cynabal and Vigilant are obviously the most useful at the moment, I wouldn't really change much.
Cynabal is a kiting god and the vigilant is a massive glass cannon.

Ashimmu is not really useful, since it's better to use an Armageddon or a curse for the same price which does a far better job as a neuting ship.

Gila is basically a shield tanked ishtar. I guess it's not broken but it's rarely desired to be used.

Phantasm at the moment basically feels like a t1 cruiser, something akin to an omen except with a slight shield preference.

I'd like to see the Blood Raider ships get neut amount bonuses but without as much range as the T2 amarr stuff. This would distinguish them from Amarr. And they are Amarr/Gallente crossover. So I could see a bit of a speed and/or agility buff.

As far as Angel ships go, I think the Cynabal and Dramiel are fine. Mach needs a nerf. Its a battleship that performs as well if not better than a Talos.

Worm needs some lovin'. I think the only reason we're not seeing more Guristas ships int he era of drone assist is because of the inherent flaws of shield tanking: signature radius bloom. Get rid of it, or give us a skill to mitigate it.

Serpentis: agreed, they are fine.

Sanshas: Buff, buff, and buff.

I'm not understanding why the Caldari skill give laser damage bonuses. Makes no sense. Even with the bonus, their dps is not very good. Shouldn't it give shield bonuses? It would make them more survivable.

Roll better cap, PG, and speed (not agility) into the hulls. For racial bonuses make the Amarr skill bonus a range bonus. I think that fits the flavor of a Caldari/Amarr ship much better. Now give it a shield bonus of some kind ( I wouldn't be against an active tank bonus) for it's Caldari racial bonus.

Sanshas have so many utility highs. It seems to me the best use of them is for nos because of their crap cap. Otherwise they simply can't sustain an engagement. This would preclude kiting since the range on Nos is so short. So either you stay at range and basically live with effectively losing 2 high slots and a crippled cap, or you go close and effectively lose any speed/tracking advantage you might have had. This is bad.

Move those utility highs to mid and/or low for cap boosting, dps/application, or speed mods. Sanshas ships are not the slowest around. They could be really good kiters with Scorch and range bonuses.

I think Sanshas would be pretty unique of they had the ability to apply good dps without having to resort to brawling inside of web range. Moving the wasted utility highs elsewhere would give so many more fitting options.

And the flavor! You should be scared when you see one of these beasts warp in. They look bad-ass! Make them so.

I sure hope pirate ships are the next ships to be balanced.

If anything I would say its because they lack some of the rather major tracking and range bonuses the gallente get (37.5% to both, unstacking penalized, and a free t2 DLA on the ishtar). If you try to get the same out of a gila, along with a shield tank, you start having cpu issues. And before the ishtar got rebalanced, it has SERIOUS cpu issues. The bonuses practically make the ishtar a better shield tanker than the gila.

Never eliminate shield sig bloom.

If they keep the Guristas ships as drone boats they are really going to need to find a way to distinguish them from the Gallente drone boats in a more meaningful way than Shield tank vs Armor tank. I am not sure what kind of utility would accomplish that but it should be the goal none the less.