EVE General Discussion

It can still be done, with some marginal profit.
There are some rules that needs to be understood and it tends to have bad influence on your standings towards your target.

Station guns will only defend convoys from their own corporation.

Which in most cases means outbound convoys, while they ignore hostile acts toward incoming convoys (unless incoming from another station belonging to the same corp).

And don't mess with Concord convoys ...

Oh Im well aware of how it works, I used to do it back in the day when it was still profitable and you could get good drops from them. Yes stone age and all that. Im just curious if people think CCP should redo them again and freshen that up cuz I remember it being pretty fun.

Questionable.

No matter how it would be redone it's single player pve stuff, and as such it has to be limited to keep it from being farmable.

And there's lots of games that can provide similar single player pve stuff, but very few that can compete with Eve when it comes to draconian multiplayer pvp.

So while I'd enjoy it being refreshed, I wouldn't want any dev resources spent on it.

I thought they changed this. I was under the impression you could now blast them at will regardless and be ignored by station guns.

I was tempted to shoot some yesterday but I wasn't sure I could trust my memory that it had changed so I opted to not do it. I might just have to use my empty slot and roll a temp newb alt and test it. Maybe later If I feel motivated =).

I do remember though (before this supposed change I may have just imagined) that at Dodixie fed navy station shooting them there the navy would show up. And blast you to.

So yeah shooting them now does not get gate gun aggro. I am outside a Gallente station in Ardene with an alt, shooting one at the undock of the station.

No navy around so not sure what they would do if they were.

Edit: 500 Wheat was the loot, the other 2 npc hawlers got away. Takes to long to kill them with a single civi gun. They disappeared at 140km from station

Edit2: I found the remaining 2 from the group I attacked arriving at a Caldari station in system, and Fed navy had a presence there, they ignored my hostile acts upon the indy npcs.

Edit3: Oh and they dont seem to dock while aggressed hehehe.

Yeah, I remember doing that in my 1st year of playing this game. Was fun and required some thinking to do it properly.

Yeah, the game mechanic definitely should be re-worked and the loot drop tables updated. Especially since CCP is updating everything else in this game.

Yeah, the loot pool for those Convoys should be an equal mix of Manufacturing Resources, Trade Goods and Invention Items pertaining to that specific Corporation. Not the generic mix of stuff currently found in all Convoys.



Also there should be a random chance of getting some finished products and BPC's in the Convoys loot drops. Those items should be related to the type of NPC Corporation as well as be race specific. The Convoys should also be immune to Cargo scans which would keep it from being exploited by players.

To encourage player fleet opps, have the NPC Military Corporations spawn Faction combat ships to engage players who attack their Convoys. The spawned Faction NPC's would have a small chance to drop Faction module loot as well as incur a Faction standing hit for ship kill. Convoys of civilian NPC corps would be exempt of this game mechanic.

Last but not least, to add more risk have all players who attack NPC Convoys get a suspect flag with the Crimewatch game mechanic.



DMC

+ Add better drops.
+ Cause Suspect tag.
+ Enjoy emergent gameplay.

I just fixed it!

Used to do missions waiting for npc haulers to spawn, they would spawn all over the constellation at once, different times for optimal hit though, since they formup, move to 100km of station then appear 100km from destination.
Helped feed a pos with that stuff, made about a billion from it. The mechanics actually required a bit from you, unless like some guys i saw you just roll up in a BS with hauler, pop n go.
The nerf was a sad day. More could be made from this, it could definitley be a thing, the real challenge is how to protect it from the already insanely wealthy weirdos who just want to suck it all up every last crumb.
Low sec variants could be amusing as well.

Funny thing i noticed back then, the Pax Amarria would reprocess to a surprising amount of nocxium per book.

If you up the rewards for killing them then you need to up the consequences. Otherwise people will farm them so much they'll flood the market with whatever drops and it'll be worthless again.

A old idea is that players would be able to use them as courier ,
for a small fee you could get your stuff moved in Highsec.

That could potential be also providing the -gankers- with pricy loot