EVE General Discussion

When you're done playing WoW, try and take the time to read at least some of the thread....



However, the last line I will consider answering. So... let’s see… Eve has been in existence for 10 years. It’s now been two years since CQ was released. But you ask us to wait another 3 years? Let’s do the math here. So you’re basically asking for pro-WiS people to wait more than a third of Eve’s existence (by that time), before they even begin work on it, to add any real content to WiS? Apologies if I just don't find that favorable.

Don't get me wrong. I won't be surprised if I'm still here 3 years down the road. I've already invested 6 years of my gaming life to this game, 6x longer than any other game I've played, and I enjoy Eve the way it is now.... but that doesn't mean I can't desire to see more from WiS now rather than adding more nullsec real estate to the stacks of already "claimed" but unused real estate.

I wasn't trolling. No, really. I was just poking fun. You are welcome to reciprocate, no need to get mad. Althought that is also funny.

You missed point c) which was the most relevant. Summer of Rage was not just about MT, altho some of you want to desperately revise it. We saw the proposed WiS, and tbh, all a lot of us thought was. Hid yo wallet. Our game, our fwiends, for this crap. Also, my graphics card buhuh. Mass unsubbing. Never forget.

So we shouted, and raged and waved our pitchforks. And ye know. We won. You lot lost, and you only just realised. You could at least take it gracefully. Or, ye know, consolidate together and create a coherent, relevant, immersive plan that doesn't just appeal to perverts or people with a short attention span. Role players can quite frankly, 'play with themselves and each other'. I always perceived them as a deviant minority whose only purpose is to be sniggered at, I'm sorry (no, really). The day CCP release an RP driven expansion before fixing the myriad of things we have literally shouted at them over (as opposed to whining, and writing convocations, whatever they are) we'll beat you. Again.

There are more of us who like Eve as it is, than those who basically, want a completely new game. HTFU or move on.You lost this argument a long time ago. But the whining is exquisite, do continue.

But. I can attack them any/everywhere. What's wrong with you Role Players? It's like you need a specially created 'environment'.

Rae'Dynn takes offense to this statement, and he attacks you with his Vicious Dagger +5 (Melee).

Wasn't at all mad. Was more like an eye roll. Too many coming in here thinking it's about RP and granted, i'm sure a lot of the RP'ers will find a lot of great use for it, I could honestly care less about the RP aspects of it. However, given how most that are against WiS find every bread crumb they can to shoot it down, they've consistently latched onto that argument and regularly use it as target practice for their fodder. And from experience with RP'ers, most get very passionate about....well, pretty much everything so they're easy to goad.




I didn't miss your point C. I simply dismissed it because it came across to me as yet another clueless person that simply believes the summer of rage was because nobody wanted WiS and everybody was pissed that CCP wasn't focusing on FiS. However, I retract that mentality as you do seem to actually remember some. Yet I will argue your memory is a bit skewed. What you are forgetting is that the general populace prior to Incarna were excited by the idea of WiS. Of course, pretty much like any new feature, there were some that didn't want it. I'm understanding you didn't and thus why your memory is biased. However, it appeared most did. Unfortunately, CCP failed to deliver what most everyone had gotten excited about. I've said it before and I'll say it again. I was with everyone in my anger over it. I was also all about them returning to doing FiS, at that time, because that was what was needed. And there still is work needed on FiS! I'm only returning to the idea of WiS now because its become apparent that CCP is looking towards doing massive new features again. So I'm just here to say, "hey, WiS shouldn't be forgotten. Why not build on that while continuing to fix FiS stuff instead of this entirely new content?" And really, how is this any different than people asking for Faction War to be fixed, after it was released as crap, and never iterated on or made better?



So no. "We" didn't lose. And "we" didn't just realize. "We" just understood that CCP messed up bad and needed to take a step away from it. Two years later, they're looking at new features, so like I said, people like me are here to say, "don't forget about it" is all, even if you prefer they did. So what YOU, and others like you, need to realize is that this is really just another thread asking for iteration and elaboration on a feature that you're not interested in. Just like some could care less about null sov and rather see CCP work on what interests them while others think that should be CCP's main focus. It's no different. It's all a matter of opinion.

/end rant.

ok

The whole 'I was there!' scream people make when someone contradicts their delusion that the Summer of Rage was because of CCP's walking in stations dream is anecdotal.

Most people were there. I was there. Just because you remember it one way doesn't mean that it was. Objectivity is key. Go look at the threads, re-read the dev blogs, use your brain. Human fallibility is a fact of life. Your memory is not objective or reliable.

Scientific proof that WiS is bad for the game, because it involves opening the door. Therefore people will forget to fly space ships.

Don't worry friends, they be on the right track. My source inside the company just leaked me some footage of the summer expansion. Hallelujah™ plan makes sense now EVE : WIS™ Because every part of EVE is important!

And with that, I bid you all Merry Christmas and a Happy New 2014!

#SaveEVE #LongLiveIncarna #YOLO

That link, as a reply to that post, is amazing. Truly epic forum posting of a whole other level. I tip my hat to you sir/maddam.