EVE General Discussion

If you are an eve developer you will probably not like what I am about to write.

For me PVP is all about getting into ships and blowing them up. I'm OK with losing a ship and keeping myself entertained for hours with variations of mods and fitting, trying out my 10th rattlesnake in creative waysI would NEVER even imagine doing on TQ.

Why?

Simple, it's fun!

On singularity I am REWARDED for losing ships, I am rewarded for playing the game and I certainly don't need to grind missions or run highsec incursions just so I can afford to PVP, in fact I find myself drawn to singularity more and more due to the ever present PVP.

I don't know about you, but if I'm going to pay to play a game, well I want to keep playing and not have to grind for ISK. Really I don't find it fun and I have said this many times before, if EVE online got rid of ISK this would be a much better game. Do you really enjoy grinding for ISK or do you enjoy blowing this **** out of someone's ship?

On singularity I can fly almost any ship I wish and it only costs 100 isk. Faction, frigates, battleships etc. all 100 isk. I get into A LOT more fights and overall I feel like I can test things out without having to shell out plex to cover my crazy testing of fits.

Having the chance to PVP more makes the game less stressful as well, and right now the LAST thing I need in my life is more stress so singularity is a really nice way to PVP, stress free.

Of but you say the game needs to be difficult and that is what brings value, because your actions have meaning. Guys you can tell yourself this every day asmuch as you like but at the end of the day Eve is a game, and if I am going to create my own content in a sandbox then Singularity is the PERFECT sandbox to play in the sand without having to worry about ISK.

I think I am going to spend most of my time on the test server because it actually provides a lot more content and PVP for my ISK. I get into more fights on singularity, I get to fly MORE ships and overall I get to learn from other people what to fit and what not to... overall I'm learning faster on singularity then I ever did on TQ and largely it's due to ships and mods costing 100 isk. Overall it's a much better experience for me and a lot more fun without the stress.

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also if you're a miner and you genuinely like to mine. There are no pirates in nullsec. NONE! and even if they blow you up, you get ISK and your new rorq costs.... 100 ISK.

Yeah enjoy. Merry Christmas!

Thats exactly my point. Practice is more doable because ISK is not a factor.

Maybe it has to do something with not everyone being full time PvPer. EVE have its traders, builders and miners who would all die out if every ship and module would cost 100 ISK. :) But I know what you mean, sometimes it is fun to just get stuff for free and go out to play.

I don't think you need to change anything on TQ, for my money, Singularity has the right amount of fun factor. It allows you to be more bold and try more mods then you would normally be willing to risk on TQ. Singularity takes itself a bit less seriously which is nice. Plus I can DUAL train without having to pay for plex. Sometimes its just more fun to train carriers on Singularity but train something else on TQ.

On singularity Loss isn't meaningful.

Having loss being meaningful is one of the key points of Eve. No running back to your corpse to get your phat loot.

So basically you want COD in space. All of those pesky consequences of your actions are getting in the way eh?

The thing is, while it works on the test server, that's only because there's a diminished population. If everyone was playing that full time, you'd soon be bored, since everyone would have the same stuff and just be clicking on each other a bit. There would be no variety and no "phew that was close" moments, since you could just explode and get straight back out there. Consequence is a good driving force in games. It's why iron man modes and hardcore modes are so popular in games.

But eve is a sandbox and I don't have a need for a meaningful loss. I am perfectly fine just enjoying the mechanics of PVP, this is meaningful to me. ISK has no meaning or value other then what CCP has told you to believe.

I know it might be a shock..... but I have fun without the ISK. A lot more fun.

sisi is eves big secret. lots of fun to be had if ;...and this is big......if you actually find eves gameplay to be fun. for me, the actual mechanics of PVP are not that fun. id much rather play a shooter. its the game around the game thats really the good part. and for that to have meaning youve gotta play on TQ. otherwise its just like playing poker with no real money. the risk is what makes the game. SISI is really great, just dont be surprised when you are bored within a week of soloing w/e in w/e.

that said, if sisi supported constant match making for 12v12 arenas you would prob see alot more folks on it ignoring the isk and just fighing for glory. as long as it gets recorded right?

OP isn't really any different from people who decide to join the "winning side" and hide in massive coalitions with thousands of blues. Both are bad.

Why exactly is the reason for your obviously irresistable desire to post this?