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Standings Repair Tags?

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Naxirian
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2013-12-21 22:44:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Naxirian
Hi guys

Not sure if this has been mentioned already, but I'm curious. We currently have the clone soldier tag system for repairing security status with Concord.

However, is there any reason why we don't have a similar option (trading specific items + isk) in exchange for repairing our standing with the empire factions?

One of the biggest turn-offs for people interested in fighting in FW is the dramatic loss of standings with the other faction as you progress through the ranks/do missions, and repairing that standing can become very difficult over the course of many months participating in FW.

In addition, a lot of newbies ruin their standings with the opposing factions when they take missions against them without realizing what happens when they drop below -5.0.

I don't believe paying isk + items should ever be used to "gain" standings (whilst standings are above 0), but surely it could be considered as a method to "repair" standings that are either below 0, or even below -5.0 with an empire. This would give people an option (even if it is fairly expensive) to repair their standings with the empires, without making Data Centers obsolete (because if you're above 0, or above -5.0 if the dev prefers, you'd still need to use Data Centers to rapidly gain standing).

This in turn will lessen the impact newbies suffer if they hit -5.0 without realizing what it does, and also reduce the aversion a lot of people have to bringing their characters into FW. A lot of people won't join because even after they've left, their standings are ruined.

Just a thought, not sure if it's been mentioned before. Just made sense to me. But again, I only suggest it for repairs. I don't believe it should ever be an option for gaining standings to access level 4 agents for example. Strictly only to get above -5.0, or perhaps -2.0 to access the basic agents. This would bring it in line with the way tags work for sec status.

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Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#2 - 2013-12-21 23:29:44 UTC
Naxirian
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2013-12-21 23:42:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Naxirian
Danika Princip wrote:
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Data_Centers

Feature exists.


Please see my post. They are useless if you have terrible standings because you cannot access the agents to hand in the tags. They are *not* suitable for repairing standings when they are that damaged. Plus, you can only use them once. It would be useful to have a system like the security status tags system, to be able to make repairs, rather than having to spend months grinding standings, or even making a new character.

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Seranova Farreach
Biomass Negative
#4 - 2013-12-22 00:56:08 UTC
Naxirian wrote:
Danika Princip wrote:
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Data_Centers

Feature exists.


Please see my post. They are useless if you have terrible standings because you cannot access the agents to hand in the tags. They are *not* suitable for repairing standings when they are that damaged. Plus, you can only use them once. It would be useful to have a system like the security status tags system, to be able to make repairs, rather than having to spend months grinding standings, or even making a new character.



absolute cow-pat. i had -10 with gallente fed and blitzed the data centers with a frigate, you may need 2 warp core stabs and all other peices for speed alignment speed and prop mod.

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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#5 - 2013-12-22 02:39:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Arthur Aihaken
Danika Princip wrote:
Feature exists.

Except these are one time, so after participating in FW against one side... then what? I don't have a problem with the concept of tags to repair your standing to <=0 (but not into positive territory).

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.

Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris
Republic Military Tax Avoiders
#6 - 2013-12-22 03:12:40 UTC
With perfect social skills your standing with faction cannot get lower than -6. Getting it higher than -5 is a couple of days work, or do a Sister's Arc (available every 3 months).

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Naxirian
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2013-12-22 15:20:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Naxirian
Seranova Farreach wrote:
Naxirian wrote:
Danika Princip wrote:
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Data_Centers

Feature exists.


Please see my post. They are useless if you have terrible standings because you cannot access the agents to hand in the tags. They are *not* suitable for repairing standings when they are that damaged. Plus, you can only use them once. It would be useful to have a system like the security status tags system, to be able to make repairs, rather than having to spend months grinding standings, or even making a new character.



absolute cow-pat. i had -10 with gallente fed and blitzed the data centers with a frigate, you may need 2 warp core stabs and all other peices for speed alignment speed and prop mod.


I don't think you've ever actually done this, otherwise you would know that you cannot access the Data Center agents if your standing is below -5.0, no matter what, even if you can get to them. I recently had to repair my Amarr standing by training Diplomacy up, running all the Caldari tutorial agents, running the SoE arc and doing all the Caldari data centers. You cannot access Data Center agents of an empire you have -5.0 with. It's also a one off thing.

If we can repair security status for a hefty fee, why not empire standings? That's my issue. Surely, being capsuleers (essentially mercenaries that don't answer to the empires) we should have the option to "bribe" the empires to tolerate us, even if they won't allow us to use their high level agents.

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Sean Parisi
Blackrise Vanguard
#8 - 2013-12-22 20:05:06 UTC
Would be nice if Data Centers could be repeated. Even if there is like a 6 month wait time on it.

Would also be nice to have an option through FW and other outlets to fix standings. Allowing you to swap militias and work you standings back up, as opposed to a one time (although awesome) faction boost.
Naxirian
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2014-01-27 17:52:08 UTC
Sean Parisi wrote:
Would be nice if Data Centers could be repeated. Even if there is like a 6 month wait time on it.

Would also be nice to have an option through FW and other outlets to fix standings. Allowing you to swap militias and work you standings back up, as opposed to a one time (although awesome) faction boost.


That's actually probably a better idea. Make the Data Centers repeatable but with a very long cooldown, like 6 months. Less work to implement, very high cost if you want to get the standings up very high again, but easy enough to repeat them to get your standing above -5.0 again.

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