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Sugestion: Module to ping cloacked ships.

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ScorpionD III
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-12-13 01:03:40 UTC
Good night.

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Read this before posting here please.

- This post intend for the develoment team, and for anyone who have something USEFULL to add.

- If you agree with me or not this really don't matter, just make your post usefull. If you have anithing usefull to say, just don't say.

- No trolling please, i'm no child and have no patient to folishness.

- English is not my native language, maybe can have some misstypes or bad writer, sorry for that.

- I have searched for the sugestion forum, if have one, i'm sorry to put this on the wrong place, please feel free to move my post, or just send me a message for me do that.
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Go for then.

Eve is a great game, i have a great time with my friends playing the game for about a year more less.

For about a 5 months whe are living in a low sect, and with the war is a commom pratice someone stay cloacked in our sector...
I know this is common, everyone do this, in every sector...
But something is happening, something very bad and i like to report.

I have no played for about a week, neither my friends, because someone stay cloacked in our sector.
I log for the cta (when have) and have nothing to do after thar.

Many off or friends have put your accounts in suspension mode because that... I can give names if needed (and if the players authorize of course).

This pratice is useles in my opinion.
- I have a good reserve of ISK to buy my ships for cta, and even if i running low of money, i buy plex to sell if needed.
- The players who have stoped, not is the active players on cta, btw, this fact don't affect war in any sense, for our alliance.
- All it is acomplished is for some good friends have stopped, and is turning the game a litle more boring to play.

Well, not is god for CCP if the players come to freeze your accounts, is less money, for the other side, i know the politic of CCP to do not interview, here enter my sugestion.

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Make a module to decloack ships in the sector. Working like this:
- The module, can pulse in sector and inform if is found any cloacked ship, and interfere in cloack system decloacking them. If the player has active in the sector he just have to recloack ship
- The module need a great time to recalibrate your sensor, ie, have a CD, something about 2 or 3 hours.
- Thte module can consume some fuel of any kind or even isk from the corp.
- The module just decloack shipe, still needed probe to found her.
- The module have to be ancored in the pos.
=======================================================================================

I like to play the game, it's a great one, for sure the better of his kind. But i like the game for the same thing i have liked others MMO's... The social aspect.

Please consider my sugestion.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#2 - 2013-12-13 01:05:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Features and Ideas.

My opinion, not needed.

From your description it appears you guys are afraid of an invisible ghost. If he's really a threat he needs to decloak at some stage and then you can fight him. Nothing to be scared of, it's just a name in local. Until he decloaks and does something, he's no threat and if you have multiple people, then you should be the threat, not the other way around.
Sebastor Cane
The Outlet
#3 - 2013-12-13 01:05:43 UTC
This is a completely new idea. I have never ever seen this before.


Nice work thinking this up.



Also expect flame comrade
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-12-13 01:07:47 UTC
In which case, what's the point in having a cloak?

Some things don't need a counter. cloaking is one of them.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders
BLACK DEATH2
Flying Twice Technologies
Hard Knocks Executors
#5 - 2013-12-13 01:11:04 UTC
This sounds quite viable, somewhat of a module breaker, useful in wormholes. It would have to be balanced though. Side effect could be that it stops All modules within 9au or something. System-wide could be too much.
SurrenderMonkey
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-12-13 01:13:18 UTC  |  Edited by: SurrenderMonkey
Quote:
Read this before posting here please.


You didn't spend the time to read the forum headings before shiptoasting, so that's a skosh hypocritical, don't you think?


Quote:
I know this is common, everyone do this, in every sector...
But something is happening, something very bad and i like to report.

I have no played for about a week, neither my friends, because someone stay cloacked in our sector.
I log for the cta (when have) and have nothing to do after thar.

Many off or friends have put your accounts in suspension mode because that... I can give names if needed (and if the players authorize of course).


Ah. Standard issue mad-'cause-bad.

"Help, I'm bored with missions!"

http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
BLACK DEATH2
Flying Twice Technologies
Hard Knocks Executors
#7 - 2013-12-13 01:16:37 UTC
This sounds quite viable, somewhat of a module breaker, useful in wormholes. It would have to be balanced though. Side effect could be that it stops All modules within 9au or something. System-wide could be too much.
Taal Khurin
Acorn Harvesting
#8 - 2013-12-13 01:18:02 UTC
Perhaps make cloak have a 60 minute cycle timer on it
Sebastor Cane
The Outlet
#9 - 2013-12-13 01:18:45 UTC
Serious reply this time


A cloak is the only way of hiding in the entire universe. You can be located at a moments notice by anyone with enough standings.


Example

Lets say that someone called Mittans a "Ladyboy or a "Metrosexual dresser" and he took offence. He could command his vast legion of neckbeard underlings to hunt you down and destroy you. Once they had you located in a system the only defence you would have would be to cloak up.


Botton line is this

If you want to nerf the cloak you have to remove the instant intell that is available at all times with no effect.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#10 - 2013-12-13 01:19:36 UTC
Features & Ideas is thattaway →

In it, you'll find a thread listing commonly proposed ideas (such as this one) that don't need a new thread.
In those old threads, you'll find plenty of reasons why your idea is bad and not needed.
Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
#11 - 2013-12-13 01:21:24 UTC
ScorpionD III wrote:

- This post intend for the develoment team, and for anyone who have something USEFULL to add.

Then post in F&I.

Or ignore the cloaked neutral and continue farming.

CCP Greyscale: As to starbases, we agree it's pretty terrible, but we don't want to delay the entire release just for this one factor.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2013-12-13 01:57:25 UTC
Stitcher wrote:
In which case, what's the point in having a cloak?

Some things don't need a counter. cloaking is one of them.

If local is removed without an adequate replacement, it will.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Impala59
Amazing Super Slackers
#13 - 2013-12-13 02:14:22 UTC
ScorpionD III wrote:
Good night.

=======================================================================================
Read this before posting here please.

- This post intend for the develoment team, and for anyone who have something USEFULL to add.

- If you agree with me or not this really don't matter, just make your post usefull. If you have anithing usefull to say, just don't say.

- No trolling please, i'm no child and have no patient to folishness.

- English is not my native language, maybe can have some misstypes or bad writer, sorry for that.

- I have searched for the sugestion forum, if have one, i'm sorry to put this on the wrong place, please feel free to move my post, or just send me a message for me do that.
=======================================================================================

Go for then.

Eve is a great game, i have a great time with my friends playing the game for about a year more less.

For about a 5 months whe are living in a low sect, and with the war is a commom pratice someone stay cloacked in our sector...
I know this is common, everyone do this, in every sector...
But something is happening, something very bad and i like to report.

I have no played for about a week, neither my friends, because someone stay cloacked in our sector.
I log for the cta (when have) and have nothing to do after thar.

Many off or friends have put your accounts in suspension mode because that... I can give names if needed (and if the players authorize of course).

This pratice is useles in my opinion.
- I have a good reserve of ISK to buy my ships for cta, and even if i running low of money, i buy plex to sell if needed.
- The players who have stoped, not is the active players on cta, btw, this fact don't affect war in any sense, for our alliance.
- All it is acomplished is for some good friends have stopped, and is turning the game a litle more boring to play.

Well, not is god for CCP if the players come to freeze your accounts, is less money, for the other side, i know the politic of CCP to do not interview, here enter my sugestion.

=======================================================================================
Make a module to decloack ships in the sector. Working like this:
- The module, can pulse in sector and inform if is found any cloacked ship, and interfere in cloack system decloacking them. If the player has active in the sector he just have to recloack ship
- The module need a great time to recalibrate your sensor, ie, have a CD, something about 2 or 3 hours.
- Thte module can consume some fuel of any kind or even isk from the corp.
- The module just decloack shipe, still needed probe to found her.
- The module have to be ancored in the pos.
=======================================================================================

I like to play the game, it's a great one, for sure the better of his kind. But i like the game for the same thing i have liked others MMO's... The social aspect.

Please consider my sugestion.



WWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#14 - 2013-12-13 02:30:56 UTC
ScorpionD III wrote:
- This post intend for the develoment team, and for anyone who have something USEFULL to add.

Wrong forum.

You want Features & Ideas Discussion
Kubire-oni
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2013-12-13 02:31:51 UTC
Impala59 wrote:
ScorpionD III wrote:
Good night.

=======================================================================================
Read this before posting here please.

- This post intend for the develoment team, and for anyone who have something USEFULL to add.

- If you agree with me or not this really don't matter, just make your post usefull. If you have anithing usefull to say, just don't say.

- No trolling please, i'm no child and have no patient to folishness.

- English is not my native language, maybe can have some misstypes or bad writer, sorry for that.

- I have searched for the sugestion forum, if have one, i'm sorry to put this on the wrong place, please feel free to move my post, or just send me a message for me do that.
=======================================================================================

Go for then.

Eve is a great game, i have a great time with my friends playing the game for about a year more less.

For about a 5 months whe are living in a low sect, and with the war is a commom pratice someone stay cloacked in our sector...
I know this is common, everyone do this, in every sector...
But something is happening, something very bad and i like to report.

I have no played for about a week, neither my friends, because someone stay cloacked in our sector.
I log for the cta (when have) and have nothing to do after thar.

Many off or friends have put your accounts in suspension mode because that... I can give names if needed (and if the players authorize of course).

This pratice is useles in my opinion.
- I have a good reserve of ISK to buy my ships for cta, and even if i running low of money, i buy plex to sell if needed.
- The players who have stoped, not is the active players on cta, btw, this fact don't affect war in any sense, for our alliance.
- All it is acomplished is for some good friends have stopped, and is turning the game a litle more boring to play.

Well, not is god for CCP if the players come to freeze your accounts, is less money, for the other side, i know the politic of CCP to do not interview, here enter my sugestion.

=======================================================================================
Make a module to decloack ships in the sector. Working like this:
- The module, can pulse in sector and inform if is found any cloacked ship, and interfere in cloack system decloacking them. If the player has active in the sector he just have to recloack ship
- The module need a great time to recalibrate your sensor, ie, have a CD, something about 2 or 3 hours.
- Thte module can consume some fuel of any kind or even isk from the corp.
- The module just decloack shipe, still needed probe to found her.
- The module have to be ancored in the pos.
=======================================================================================

I like to play the game, it's a great one, for sure the better of his kind. But i like the game for the same thing i have liked others MMO's... The social aspect.

Please consider my sugestion.



WWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!


thanks for quoting the first post in this topic..... almost missed it.
Desimus Maximus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#16 - 2013-12-13 02:34:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Desimus Maximus
No. The fix is simple. Just like many many mods, give it a chance to fail. Put Covert Cloak on a say... 15 min continuous cycle. give it a 5-15% chance to fail each cycle. The fail rate can be lessened with skills. CCP wins and sucks another month of $$$ from players. No more dicks afk for weeks at a time. Everyone wins.

If it fails, give the pilot a 15 second window with an orange warning light. If the pilot successfully activates the mod within the 15 seconds the cloak stays active for another 15 min.
Kubire-oni
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2013-12-13 02:45:38 UTC
Desimus Maximus wrote:
No. The fix is simple. Just like many many mods, give it a chance to fail. Put Covert Cloak on a say... 15 min continuous cycle. give it a 5-15% chance to fail each cycle. The fail rate can be lessened with skills. CCP wins and sucks another month of $$$ from players. No more dicks afk for weeks at a time. Everyone wins.

If it fails, give the pilot a 15 second window with an orange warning light. If the pilot successfully activates the mod within the 15 seconds the cloak stays active for another 15 min.



I take it you've never been on a bombing run. brilliant idea...can spend 20+ mjns chasing targets and getting into position so that we can randomly be decloaked. radical man......just rad. pass that stuff this way.
Tul Breetai
Impromptu Asset Requisition
#18 - 2013-12-13 02:50:57 UTC
ScorpionD III wrote:


- This post intend for the develoment team, and for anyone who have something USEFULL to add.


Then why is it in GD.

There's nothing worse than an EVE player, generally considered to be top of the food chain in the MMO world, that cannot smacktalk with wit and coherency.
Seraph Essael
Air
The Initiative.
#19 - 2013-12-13 02:54:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Seraph Essael
ScorpionD III wrote:
I have no played for about a week, neither my friends, because someone stay cloacked in our sector.
I log for the cta (when have) and have nothing to do after thar.

Many off or friends have put your accounts in suspension mode because that... I can give names if needed (and if the players authorize of course).


Here's a usefull suggestion for you... Move systems...If you haven't been able to play because someone is cloaked in your system, move systems...

Here's another thought, bait and trap him? If he's cloaked up and afk then he's not hurting anyone and CCP will also tell you the same (I'm on my phone and cant get the CCP quote where they tell you how afk cloakers arent hurting people). If he isn't afk then you can try and bait him to a belt and get your corp in to kill him? If you can do CTA's then surely you can muster a force up to try and kill the guy no? If hes after trying to hot drop you or anything, baiting him to a belt should be easy. He's looking for a fight...

There is absolutely nothing wrong with cloaking, while theyre cloaked the only thing they can do is move around and warp around (and that's only if its a cov ops cloaked ship). They can't activate modules, they have to decloak to do anything... The only thing he's going to be able to do is provide intel while he is cloaked and get a warp in position on you (which if you have a fleet on back up, shouldn't be an issue no?)...

Edit: 125 people in your corp, plus however many more in your alliance (sure they wont ALL be able to get on at the same time I know) but you've unsubbed due to one guy who may or may not be afk... Shocked

Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."
Trillian Stargazer
Perkone
Caldari State
#20 - 2013-12-13 03:21:10 UTC
ScorpionD III wrote:
Good night.

=======================================================================================
Read this before posting here please.

- This post intend for the develoment team, and for anyone who have something USEFULL to add.

- If you agree with me or not this really don't matter, just make your post usefull. If you have anithing usefull to say, just don't say.

- No trolling please, i'm no child and have no patient to folishness.

- English is not my native language, maybe can have some misstypes or bad writer, sorry for that.

- I have searched for the sugestion forum, if have one, i'm sorry to put this on the wrong place, please feel free to move my post, or just send me a message for me do that.
=======================================================================================

Go for then.

Eve is a great game, i have a great time with my friends playing the game for about a year more less.

For about a 5 months whe are living in a low sect, and with the war is a commom pratice someone stay cloacked in our sector...
I know this is common, everyone do this, in every sector...
But something is happening, something very bad and i like to report.

I have no played for about a week, neither my friends, because someone stay cloacked in our sector.
I log for the cta (when have) and have nothing to do after thar.

Many off or friends have put your accounts in suspension mode because that... I can give names if needed (and if the players authorize of course).

This pratice is useles in my opinion.
- I have a good reserve of ISK to buy my ships for cta, and even if i running low of money, i buy plex to sell if needed.
- The players who have stoped, not is the active players on cta, btw, this fact don't affect war in any sense, for our alliance.
- All it is acomplished is for some good friends have stopped, and is turning the game a litle more boring to play.

Well, not is god for CCP if the players come to freeze your accounts, is less money, for the other side, i know the politic of CCP to do not interview, here enter my sugestion.

=======================================================================================
Make a module to decloack ships in the sector. Working like this:
- The module, can pulse in sector and inform if is found any cloacked ship, and interfere in cloack system decloacking them. If the player has active in the sector he just have to recloack ship
- The module need a great time to recalibrate your sensor, ie, have a CD, something about 2 or 3 hours.
- Thte module can consume some fuel of any kind or even isk from the corp.
- The module just decloack shipe, still needed probe to found her.
- The module have to be ancored in the pos.
=======================================================================================

I like to play the game, it's a great one, for sure the better of his kind. But i like the game for the same thing i have liked others MMO's... The social aspect.

Please consider my sugestion.


Dear OP.

A cloaked ship cannot shoot you or scram you.
You can move to another system, there are 1000s of them.
You are new to the game so I wont be rude. This topic has been beaten to death and nothing will change. Cloaking is working as intended.
Post in the correct forum, Features and Ideas. I am surprised this topic hasn't been moved yet, ISD members must also be crying about a cloaked ships.
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