EVE General Discussion

Insofar as the 'Iterations' platform goes, I can say with full confidence that the whole CSM (with regard to any changed to FiS) is pushing for fixing what we have before introducing anything new. It's the first question asked at every opportunity. It's my personal 'crusade' if you will to at the very least see things like the sov system, wormholes, factional warfare and low sec get some serious love. It's what pushed me to write the Reality Check blog a couple days ago. It's obvious stuff, yes, but CCP makes it easy to ***** about.

I don't think that's going to happen seeing as how Zulu is planning to speak with the CSM again next week. It seems that CCP has learned a lesson or two about running things by the CSM before ummm... 'surprising' the community with news.



Good point and I'll poke someone about getting that going again.

I also wrote a quick blog about the events of today to try and put everything in one place: Minutes & Meetings

nice update thanks

I was just thinking the CQ devs might have one over the weekend becouse there is another TQ candidate on Sisi.

I trust the CSM will represent the eve players' views to the best to their ability.

Always liked your blogs Seleene, I think having been on both sides of the fence gives you no reason to favour one side or the other, to a certain extent

Unfortunately like everything lately, it's all just a bit more of a Soon™ thing then anything.

Well the nice part here is we are actually dealing with numbers. How many devs are currently assigned to real eve? How many will be assigned when? These are the questions that need answers.

If CSM comes back with anything other than these numbers this is a waste.

Because if they come back saying "Yay CCP will fix problem X in real eve" and its not clear they are fixing it with new developers, then chances are, they just pulled developers from problem Y in real eve. In other words overall nothing will really change for eve.

That is why this needs to focus on *how many developers* and not specific issues.

I dunno....an Evemail about a dev blog about minutes from a meeting, which was about a leaked bulletin, which was about content, seems to be a stretch. I think if most players don't care enough to read forums or peruse the website from time to time, they will most certainly be annoyed with information about information about information being dropped into their evemails.

I much prefer that Evemail be kept for In-game purposes only. I send a lot of mail that has to do with "important stuff" - which for me means diplomatic issues, corporate bulletins, marching orders, announcing campaigns, events, etc, and when I send a mail I expect my corpmates or friends to take a moment and read it. The minute that our Evemail begins to fill with out-of-game junk (which I would say an announcement about a devblog about minutes from 2 month old meeting qualifies as) than people will stop reading it and gameplay would be hampered.

Not promoting is not the same as hiding, so I hardly think you can say CCP is being deceptive. And let's face it - the playerbase is just too smart to be fooled anyways. This is the heart of this whole conflict - CCP has been repeatedly using run-of-the-mill everyday corporate business practices to navigate PR, spin, damage control, etc, and while it may work on everyday consumer masses, Eve players are the type who will crank out spreadsheets, flowcharts, and the like FOR FUN. Sifting through information and calling bullshit is something the players and the CSM have done a great job of, so I really don't think there's a lot more to the picture than we have already pieced together. It's all here for the grabbing.

In the end though, the fact that subscriber numbers have merely leveled off, instead of plummeting, is evidence that a great number of players simply take Eve at face value, log in everyday, blow **** up, and have fun without complaining, blissfully unaware that Eve "is on the brink of disaster". And as long as they keep it up, Eve won't be.

I, too, would love to see some of the much needed fixes and long overdue promises made good. I hate seeing CCP continuously promote stuff, than fail to deliver. It's almost pitiful. Winter brings with it a chance to turn that around, so in the meantime I'm just trying to enjoy what is there to enjoy.

At least now, unlike the past few expansions it seems that the Emperor has finally more or less admitted that he doesn't have any clothes, and there's every incentive for him to get his tailor in gear or to get a new tailor.......cause winter means cold. And no one wants to see a shriveled pair.

Honestly folks waited months to get the emergency minutes, which you claim are unmodified in a post, but I mean if it was an unmodified minutes of the meetings why does it take months. No one believes they are unmodified, just so you know.

So this NDA you all signed whats the penalty for breaking it?

Lets say you all csm payoff one of the csm that's sick of being there to break the good news to us all!

Someone should take one for the team unless it means large fines and lawsuits from ccp


Or god forbid the bad news we all know is coming

you know, its funny, usually when one enters into a NDA, its forbidden to refer to the NDA in any public forum.
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