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[Rubicon 1.1] Sisters of EVE Battleship

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Obsidiana
Atrament Inc.
#881 - 2013-12-05 18:46:20 UTC
Sheild reps too, please. Looks good, though. Nice cargo bay.
Herpp Derpp
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#882 - 2013-12-05 18:46:46 UTC
Obsidiana wrote:
Sheild reps too, please. Looks good, though. Nice cargo bay.


It's not a shield ship.
Thaddeus Eggeras
Urkrathos Corp
LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
#883 - 2013-12-05 18:49:26 UTC
Still think it should turn into a gaint robot and brake dance, be pretty sweet, huh huh?
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#884 - 2013-12-05 18:51:54 UTC
Since it's so popular to write up complete proposed stat lists, I thought I'd try it too. Underlined are changes from Rise's original post.

Quote:
NESTOR

Amarr Battleship Bonuses:
4% Armor resistances per level

Gallente Battleship Bonuses:
10% drone damage and hitpoints per level

Role bonuses:
50% bonus to Armor Maintenance Bot Repair Amount
-100% Scan Resolution Penalty for Cloaking Devices

50% bonus to large energy turret optimal range
50% increased strength for scan probes
+10 virus strength for relic and data analyzers

Slot layout: 7H, 6M, 6L; 5 turrets, 0 launchers
Fittings: 11250 PWG, 690 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull): 8900 / 9950 / 9900
Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / cap/s) : 6200 / 1044 / 5.9
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 92 / .18 / 56000000 / 13.97
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 125 / 500
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 75km / 85 / 7
Sensor strength: 24 Magnetometric
Signature radius: 465
Cargo Capacity: 700


Thoughts?

By the way, you can fit a full rack of lasers into that amount of powergrid if you use Dual Heavy Beam IIs or Dual Heavy Pulse IIs.
Mr Pragmatic
#885 - 2013-12-05 18:52:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr Pragmatic
Thaddeus Eggeras wrote:
Still think it should turn into a gaint robot and brake dance, be pretty sweet, huh huh?


How about make all the SoE ships modular like the power rangers robot from the 90s.

Super cali hella yolo swaga dopeness.  -Yoloswaggins, in the fellowship of the bling.

Onictus
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#886 - 2013-12-05 18:53:50 UTC
Thaddeus Eggeras wrote:
:^ ) Enjoy trying to sell your SoE Bs for around 2bil after a month or so.



Again you miss the point I wouldn't TRY to sell less than that. I don't have to....no reason to try to, NONE. I see the price I want or I'll never have the BPC much less the entire ship. There are plenty of other things that I can make a better margin on.

Get it?
Thaddeus Eggeras
Urkrathos Corp
LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
#887 - 2013-12-05 18:55:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Thaddeus Eggeras
Quote:

How about make all the SoE ships modular like the power rangers robot from the 90s.
You rock!
Thaddeus Eggeras
Urkrathos Corp
LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
#888 - 2013-12-05 18:58:08 UTC
And no you miss the point stop whining.
NextDarkKnight
Event Horizon Expeditionaries
Pandemic Horde
#889 - 2013-12-05 19:00:25 UTC
Any notice from Rise about the 8.0 AU Warp speed from the rings yet?
mynnna
State War Academy
Caldari State
#890 - 2013-12-05 19:01:21 UTC
Sal Landry wrote:
Onictus wrote:

Dead on, there is no downward pressure on the supply end there are plenty of money makers in the LP store.

He's not alone in having absolutely no understanding of how LP store economics works. Did you see Economic Super Genius Mynna's TMC article where he claimed SoE LP would drop to 800-900 isk/LP because "that's what other high sec ship bpc's go for"?


Excuse me, but I said that if as many players continue to farm the agents as had been pre-patch that that LP might become devalued. When citing my economic genius, please sure to cite correctly, thank you.

Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal

Mr Pragmatic
#891 - 2013-12-05 19:02:01 UTC
NextDarkKnight wrote:
Any notice from Rise about the 8.0 AU Warp speed from the rings yet?



8.0 BS?! Madness.

Super cali hella yolo swaga dopeness.  -Yoloswaggins, in the fellowship of the bling.

BeanBagKing
The Order of Atlas
#892 - 2013-12-05 19:02:11 UTC
Lets try it this way Thaddeus Eggeras, I'll put the power in your hands.

You have 100 LP

I offer you two deals. I will either give you a) 300 isk for every LP or b) 2000 isk for every LP. Which deal will you take?

That is the choice everyone who cashes out LP will be looking at. a) is the BS blueprint, and b) is the sisters probes. Unless a becomes greater than or equal to b, nobody is going to chose a. See?

If a becomes equal to b, then the ship cost will be 2 bil ( or there about). If the ship price dropsanywhere below this, people will start choosing b again because its higher than a.
Karash Amerius
The Seven Shadows
#893 - 2013-12-05 19:04:28 UTC
Why not give it bonuses to BOTH armor and shield remote reps? Seriously. Would not be overpowered due to fits being one or the other, and gives some flexibility in one package.

Just 'whiteboarding' here.

Karash Amerius Operative, Sutoka

Thaddeus Eggeras
Urkrathos Corp
LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
#894 - 2013-12-05 19:07:07 UTC
no the choose is when you can't sell your ship for 2bil or the BP for 1.5bil you can either lower your asking price or enjoy holding onto them. Pick. Again these BPs and ships can be bought for the same as the other pirate ships are, so those people can still low ball you lazy ass high seccers and still make good money haha
NextDarkKnight
Event Horizon Expeditionaries
Pandemic Horde
#895 - 2013-12-05 19:07:11 UTC
Mr Pragmatic wrote:
NextDarkKnight wrote:
Any notice from Rise about the 8.0 AU Warp speed from the rings yet?



8.0 BS?! Madness.



A battleship with 8.0 bonuses sounds like madness as well! Go Super speed SOE battleship!

Hears a chant in the background " RISE... RISE .. RISE .."
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#896 - 2013-12-05 19:07:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Alvatore DiMarco
BeanBagKing wrote:
Lets try it this way Thaddeus Eggeras, I'll put the power in your hands.

You have 100 LP

I offer you two deals. I will either give you a) 300 isk for every LP or b) 2000 isk for every LP. Which deal will you take?

That is the choice everyone who cashes out LP will be looking at. a) is the BS blueprint, and b) is the sisters probes. Unless a becomes greater than or equal to b, nobody is going to chose a. See?

If a becomes equal to b, then the ship cost will be 2 bil ( or there about). If the ship price dropsanywhere below this, people will start choosing b again because its higher than a.


Thaddeus is kind of right, but only because there are some very truly monumentally stupid people playing EVE. Just like people who assume the minerals they mine have no ISK value and thus sell ships for below manufacturing cost, there will be people who sell Nestor BPCs at an effective loss compared to more profitable things because they don't understand the concept of ISK-per-LP exchange or are too lazy to bother with it.

What he isn't understanding is that most people who have even a slight understanding of the ISK/LP concept will simply not buy Nestor BPCs at all if something else offers a better ISK return on their LP investment, meaning that if the BPC doesn't sell for at least X amount there won't be any to buy in the first place.
Mr Pragmatic
#897 - 2013-12-05 19:09:55 UTC
Karash Amerius wrote:
Why not give it bonuses to BOTH armor and shield remote reps? Seriously. Would not be overpowered due to fits being one or the other, and gives some flexibility in one package.

Just 'whiteboarding' here.


No, this inst a jovian craft.

Super cali hella yolo swaga dopeness.  -Yoloswaggins, in the fellowship of the bling.

Thaddeus Eggeras
Urkrathos Corp
LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
#898 - 2013-12-05 19:11:45 UTC
Alvatore DiMarco, ding ding ding! Someone got it. Try to sell a SoE Bs for 2bil, someone will do it for 1.5bil and so on.
Lady PimpStar
Storm Chasers.
All My Friends Are Ded
#899 - 2013-12-05 19:14:55 UTC
NextDarkKnight wrote:
Mr Pragmatic wrote:
NextDarkKnight wrote:
Any notice from Rise about the 8.0 AU Warp speed from the rings yet?



8.0 BS?! Madness.



A battleship with 8.0 bonuses sounds like madness as well! Go Super speed SOE battleship!

Hears a chant in the background " RISE... RISE .. RISE .."



A Lapdance from SOE doesn't go by song, it goes from one warp to the next. SOE paid good (dirty) money to Zero G, Chem Tech, Propel Dynamics or whatever to make sure them battleships spend as little time in warp as possible.


"Rise,, Rise,, " LOL
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#900 - 2013-12-05 19:15:29 UTC
Thaddeus Eggeras wrote:
Alvatore DiMarco, ding ding ding! Someone got it. Try to sell a SoE Bs for 2bil, someone will do it for 1.5bil and so on.


At some point though, people are going to see the terrible price that the BPCs are selling for and buy something - anything - else instead. Then the supply will dry up and the price will skyrocket beyond anything anyone is willing to pay for. At that point it will be cheaper to grind your own LP instead. Or the price will stay poor and nobody will buy one to resell and in either case you end up being better off grinding the LP yourself.