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[Rubicon 1.1] Sisters of EVE Battleship

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Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#21 - 2013-12-03 16:48:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Katrina Oniseki
GallowsCalibrator wrote:

Katrina Oniseki wrote:
An armor tanking battleship won't have that luxury, so perhaps a slightly larger range is warranted?


That mass reduction should help alleviate that with a prop mod providing a bit more than the usual effect.


Entirely possible, yeah. I'd like to play about with these things on SiSi when they come out. It may not be a problem at all, but I have a difficult time imagining an agile armor battleship in my mind. It's just an oxymoron that won't work. :P

Getting real tired of the forums taking a crap on my posts. First it 404s my post, then it claims I can't post again for the next 30 seconds. Is this a side effect of a popular thread or what?

Katrina Oniseki
Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#22 - 2013-12-03 16:49:49 UTC
Instead 6M, 6L it should maby be 5M, 7L

CEO of Lanate Industries

Citizen of Solitude
GallowsCalibrator
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2013-12-03 16:50:22 UTC
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
GallowsCalibrator wrote:

Katrina Oniseki wrote:
An armor tanking battleship won't have that luxury, so perhaps a slightly larger range is warranted?


That mass reduction should help alleviate that with a prop mod providing a bit more than the usual effect.


Entirely possible, yeah. I'd like to play about with these things on SiSi when they come out. It may not be a problem at all, but I have a difficult time imagining an agile armor battleship in my mind. It's just an oxymoron that won't work. :P


It's going to be unusual to be sure, but the resist bonus and this RR bonus really really steer this towards not bothering to fit plates, trimarks, etc and just up resists for EHP; then RR and capchain in the highs for spidertanking. Let the drones do the hurt.
Tarsas Phage
Sniggerdly
#24 - 2013-12-03 16:55:19 UTC
So it's a better-tanking Navy Dominix, basically.

Should have kept the covops cloak theme, however - breaking the predictability mold is a okay thing to do.
TheMercenaryKing
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#25 - 2013-12-03 16:55:38 UTC
no cov ops bonus?
Harvey James
The Sengoku Legacy
#26 - 2013-12-03 17:02:05 UTC
so these will be able to outrep logi's in terms of raw amount ... i think the range bonus over amount is more sensible

T3's need to be versatile so no rigs are necessary ... they should not have OP dps and tank

ABC's should be T2, remove drone assist, separate HAM's and Torps range, -3 HS for droneboats

Nerf web strength, Make the blaster Eagle worth using
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#27 - 2013-12-03 17:02:15 UTC
TheMercenaryKing wrote:
no cov ops bonus?


No covops bonus.

Katrina Oniseki
Maennas Vaer
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#28 - 2013-12-03 17:02:34 UTC
Feels very bland I'm afraid.

Disappointed it isn't a blops. Sad
Swiftstrike1
Swiftstrike Incorporated
#29 - 2013-12-03 17:03:59 UTC
CCP Rise wrote:
instead of cloaking it will receive a bonus to remote armor repair amount

CCP Rise wrote:
Role bonuses:
50% bonus to remote repair amount


Please confirm if the role bonus is to all remote reps or just to remote armour reps.

Casual Incursion runner & Faction Warfare grunt, ex-Wormholer, ex-Nullbear.
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#30 - 2013-12-03 17:07:41 UTC
Maennas Vaer wrote:
Feels very bland I'm afraid.

Disappointed it isn't a blops. Sad


They said it would be for wormholes. What use would jump bridging be in wormholes? Besides, there's nothing stopping you from fitting an Improved Cloak like a blackops.

I think we all expected that it wouldn't be a true covert-ops battleship.

Katrina Oniseki
Streya Jormagdnir
Alexylva Paradox
#31 - 2013-12-03 17:10:28 UTC
Two step wrote:
How about even a small range bonus. RR range unbonused is really tiny, a fixed 100% range bonus taking it up to 16.8km would make it a lot more usable


As a logi pilot...yes. I feel the remote repair bonus will hardly be used unless the reps get some range.

Otherwise I foresee this being a very neat ship. That drone bandwidth is amazing!

I am also a human, straggling between the present world... and our future. I am a regulator, a coordinator, one who is meant to guide the way.

Destination Unreachable: the worst Wspace blog ever
Karash Amerius
The Seven Shadows
Scotch And Tea.
#32 - 2013-12-03 17:10:34 UTC
Add me to the choir saying there needs to be a range bonus on the RR instead (or in conjunction) of the rep amount.

Karash Amerius Operative, Sutoka
Harvey James
The Sengoku Legacy
#33 - 2013-12-03 17:11:16 UTC
WOW!!! 56mil mass .... it begs the question why where you so stingy with attack battleships the phoon still has 100mil mass

T3's need to be versatile so no rigs are necessary ... they should not have OP dps and tank

ABC's should be T2, remove drone assist, separate HAM's and Torps range, -3 HS for droneboats

Nerf web strength, Make the blaster Eagle worth using
Dibblerette
Solitude-Industries
#34 - 2013-12-03 17:12:35 UTC
I'm going to have to agree with what's already been said. Either give this a range bonus, or (more useful/interesting) just go double the base range of all logistics mods and half hull bonuses.
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#35 - 2013-12-03 17:14:39 UTC
So... how fast is this thing going with a nano, skirmishlinks and an OH mwd?
Biife Stuhe
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#36 - 2013-12-03 17:16:54 UTC
Pocket Carriers!! Cool!!!
5n4keyes
Sacred Templars
Fraternity.
#37 - 2013-12-03 17:20:27 UTC
Gallente Battleship Bonuses:
10% drone damage and hitpoints per level

Role bonuses:
50% bonus to large energy turret optimal range

Please decide if this is going to be a energy turret boat, or a drone boat, split weapons, are fine, but then we have 4% Armor Resistance per level... which means you have 6 slots to fit a tank and damage mods. If you then go with Shield mods, your wasting a huge bonus of a ship...

3% to Armor AND Shield Resistances per level however would be pretty cool, and unique, meaning it can be shield tanked, damage control on the low, plus 5 mods for say tracking, damage... could be kinda sweet. Tho you would also need to give it a Shield and Armor 50% amount bonus, again would be kinda cool.
Streya Jormagdnir
Alexylva Paradox
#38 - 2013-12-03 17:21:21 UTC
I did just think of a neat use for this ship.

Wspace POS bashing. Establish spider tank, launch sentries. Sip on tea. Profit.

I am also a human, straggling between the present world... and our future. I am a regulator, a coordinator, one who is meant to guide the way.

Destination Unreachable: the worst Wspace blog ever
Zircon Dasher
#39 - 2013-12-03 17:22:57 UTC
When is it on SISI?

Nerfing High-sec is never the answer. It is the question. The answer is 'YES'.
CCP Rise
C C P
C C P Alliance
#40 - 2013-12-03 17:25:49 UTC
We can certainly discuss this amount vs range thing. Can you guys help me out saying specifically in relation to it:

Do you feel you need added range to be able to run PVE content, or just to PVP, or both?
Are you asking for bonus to amount AND bonus to range or bonus to range INSTEAD of amount?

Not sure when it gets to sisi but there will be plenty of time before release to play with it.

@ccp_rise