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One simple question about languages of EVE
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Grace Olivia
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-12-02 11:51:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Grace Olivia
I heard long long ago Tranquility had an option of Chinese( but don't know the exact period) and concealed it later.

I wonder if it is due to the agency agreement of Serenity in China?

Frankly speaking, as is known to me, actually many "good"( here means real hardcore,not bots, noobs,farmers which are hated by all players on the earth) Chinese are very willing to play with all players from all over the world just because the languistic obstruction baffles them.

EVE now has English,Russian,German and even Japanese(THIS IS NOT A DISCRIMINATION! Just point out that There are much fewer players from Japan than from China but they still have a customized language system.)

As a Chinese player, I feel very sad about this because only few people from China who are to some extent good at English came here,the Tranquility, to enjoy the epic of "One Universe" but the majority of Chinese players can not have a chance to use their talents and skills to earn people's trust, to earn people's respect, to eliminate the unfair racial discrimination on Chinese players just because most farmers and RMT organizers are Chinese( As a true player, I HATE THEM just like you !).

So I want to know the main reason for this.
Thank you warm-hearted guys

More details if possible.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#2 - 2013-12-02 12:02:01 UTC
Which Chinese?

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Grace Olivia
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-12-02 12:18:03 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Which Chinese?


Chinese language
Lugalbandak
Doomheim
#4 - 2013-12-02 12:20:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Lugalbandak
can you go on our server as a chines player living china? or are it all from china ppl living in other countrys that login here?

edit: btw there is also no option for my mother language , as in my post im really shittie with eglish but its not hard to learn the game english to work you way trough new eden.

The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back
Gealbhan
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-12-02 12:31:34 UTC
Grace Olivia wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Which Chinese?


Chinese language


They mean which dialect: Jiangxinese, Mandarin, Hakka etc. Arrow
Grace Olivia
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-12-02 12:36:43 UTC
Lugalbandak wrote:
can you go on our server as a chines player living china? or are it all from china ppl living in other countrys that login here?

edit: btw there is also no option for my mother language , as in my post im really shittie with eglish but its not hard to learn the game english to work you way trough new eden.



Yes, there is no problem with the connection and the payment.

Without an option of Chinese is pretty fine with me.

For your country , French and all other western countries, English is not your native language, but it is widely used in your daily life so you have many many chances to speak it, whatever willing or forced.

But The situations in China are kind of different. Only people with very good education or who once majored in English have the ability to communicate in English.

And do you have an idea how many Chinese players are on Severity Server?
About 3-4 times as big as Goonswarm regardless of inactive players!
Grace Olivia
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-12-02 12:37:57 UTC
Gealbhan wrote:
Grace Olivia wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Which Chinese?


Chinese language


They mean which dialect: Jiangxinese, Mandarin, Hakka etc. Arrow


sorry lol....forgive me.

of course Mandarin
Lugalbandak
Doomheim
#8 - 2013-12-02 13:17:38 UTC
Grace Olivia wrote:
Lugalbandak wrote:
can you go on our server as a chines player living china? or are it all from china ppl living in other countrys that login here?

edit: btw there is also no option for my mother language , as in my post im really shittie with eglish but its not hard to learn the game english to work you way trough new eden.



Yes, there is no problem with the connection and the payment.

Without an option of Chinese is pretty fine with me.

For your country , French and all other western countries, English is not your native language, but it is widely used in your daily life so you have many many chances to speak it, whatever willing or forced.

But The situations in China are kind of different. Only people with very good education or who once majored in English have the ability to communicate in English.

And do you have an idea how many Chinese players are on Severity Server?
About 3-4 times as big as Goonswarm regardless of inactive players!


k , so about 120k , i have no problems myself seeing chinese chit chat all over , see russian chit chat also all over.
So what you saying basicly with chinese language ingame we would have lot of more ppl seeing online on TQ?

o/

The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#9 - 2013-12-02 13:19:14 UTC
Grace Olivia wrote:
Gealbhan wrote:
Grace Olivia wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Which Chinese?


Chinese language


They mean which dialect: Jiangxinese, Mandarin, Hakka etc. Arrow


sorry lol....forgive me.

of course Mandarin


Oh sorry can't help you there Im afraid

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
gfldex
#10 - 2013-12-02 13:39:07 UTC
CCP was required by chinese law to have a local partner that holds at least 51% of the shares. They decided against it and went with a license agreement. There where further other laws govern content in (online) games. It was a sound business decision to offload the burden of localisation (you really have to know what you do in that field) entirely to a chinese company.

RMT had nothing to do with it as the farmers had arrived on TQ already.

If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
gfldex
#11 - 2013-12-02 13:45:17 UTC
Grace Olivia wrote:
to earn people's trust, to earn people's respect


If you play EVE well those two points should not be on the list of rewards.

If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#12 - 2013-12-02 13:45:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Iria Ahrens
Grace Olivia wrote:
Gealbhan wrote:
Grace Olivia wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Which Chinese?


Chinese language


They mean which dialect: Jiangxinese, Mandarin, Hakka etc. Arrow


sorry lol....forgive me.

of course Mandarin


Outside of China Cantonese is the most common dialect, so there is no "of course."

Ahh, here it is. The plan to unite Serenity with Tranquility

No need to cry discrimination etc.. My understanding is the seperate server thing is to accommodate some Chinese law. Also, the localization agreement with Optic might disallow localization in tranquility.

My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
Grace Olivia
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-12-02 14:12:17 UTC
Lugalbandak wrote:


k , so about 120k , i have no problems myself seeing chinese chit chat all over , see russian chit chat also all over.
So what you saying basicly with chinese language ingame we would have lot of more ppl seeing online on TQ?

o/


yes that means maybe there will be several thousand more active players on TQ
KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-12-02 14:16:10 UTC
I want to run my client in the language of love.

BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty.
Jove Death
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2013-12-02 14:16:43 UTC
Grace Olivia wrote:
Lugalbandak wrote:


k , so about 120k , i have no problems myself seeing chinese chit chat all over , see russian chit chat also all over.
So what you saying basicly with chinese language ingame we would have lot of more ppl seeing online on TQ?

o/


yes that means maybe there will be several thousand more active players on TQ


Im in full agreement however CCP will have to purchase a crap ton of Icelandic TiDi hamsters for the new batch of users entering TQ

Quoting "you will die" in EvE is fail Chars dont die in EvE. Unless you have a heart attack eek.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#16 - 2013-12-02 14:17:14 UTC
Iria Ahrens wrote:


Outside of China Cantonese is the most common dialect, so there is no "of course."
.


+1 for this and I wish I could give you more

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Grace Olivia
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2013-12-02 14:17:59 UTC
gfldex wrote:
Grace Olivia wrote:
to earn people's trust, to earn people's respect


If you play EVE well those two points should not be on the list of rewards.


no in most cases they don't. But I bet you don't know unfortunately some good-skilled players still got very unfair treatment from their corp or alliance just because they don't think Chinese players are good or worth respect. those matters are widely known among Chinese players.
Grace Olivia
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2013-12-02 14:20:21 UTC
Jove Death wrote:
Grace Olivia wrote:
Lugalbandak wrote:


k , so about 120k , i have no problems myself seeing chinese chit chat all over , see russian chit chat also all over.
So what you saying basicly with chinese language ingame we would have lot of more ppl seeing online on TQ?

o/


yes that means maybe there will be several thousand more active players on TQ


Im in full agreement however CCP will have to purchase a crap ton of Icelandic TiDi hamsters for the new batch of users entering TQ


Anyway in general its good for EVE to have more pilots without a hesitate and CCP will be very happy to do that.
Lugalbandak
Doomheim
#19 - 2013-12-02 14:20:55 UTC
Grace Olivia wrote:
gfldex wrote:
Grace Olivia wrote:
to earn people's trust, to earn people's respect


If you play EVE well those two points should not be on the list of rewards.


no in most cases they don't. But I bet you don't know unfortunately some good-skilled players still got very unfair treatment from their corp or alliance just because they don't think Chinese players are good or worth respect. those matters are widely known among Chinese players.


if tey can speak adn write dutch im happy to get them in my corp P

The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back
Grace Olivia
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2013-12-02 14:27:13 UTC
Iria Ahrens wrote:


Outside of China Cantonese is the most common dialect, so there is no "of course."

Ahh, here it is. The plan to unite Serenity with Tranquility

No need to cry discrimination etc.. My understanding is the seperate server thing is to accommodate some Chinese law. Also, the localization agreement with Optic might disallow localization in tranquility.



First much obliged for the link and your explanation.

But I think I have to correct one the most common mistakes----Chinese Cantonese is the most common dialect indeed, but Mandarin is the official language of China so that means every educated Chinese can speak mandarin and have a good understanding of it ,in contrary to the fact that only few people understand Cantonese regardless of it ranking first among dialects.
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