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Any Suggestions on New Career?

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Renis Vaille
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-11-26 12:11:50 UTC
I'm a relatively new player (1 year in with about 4.5mil SP). Joined an alliance out in low sec and station traded/PI'd my way up to about 700mil isk. Now I'm rather bored of this and want to try something new (but keep in mind I'm not big on PvP yet due to my low SP). Any suggestions on a low sec career that I can try out for now while avoiding combat for a little while? I know its impossible to avoid combat altogether in low sec and that's not what I'm trying to do here, just minimize it while I train and create a steady source of income to fund my account each month as well as all future PvP activities. I was thinking about trying lowsec exploration in a cov ops ship like the Helios? Just hate scanning with probes, so tedious. Any suggestions?
Mascha Tzash
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2013-11-26 12:15:37 UTC
Why fund your account with ISKies when you can use the 500andso million per month on ships, modules and so on? :)
With these ships you gain more experience than any skill plan can give you.
Treborr MintingtonJr
S.N.O.T
S.N.O.T.
#3 - 2013-11-26 12:30:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Treborr MintingtonJr
I'm probably gonna suggest all the things you hate:

I would recommend PvP, get in a frig and become hero tackle, its takes low skills and is fun (you've probably heard interceptors are awesome now so train towards these). Also assault frigs dont that long to train for.
Definitely scan cosmic signatures in a cov ops because you can get delicious goodies from relic or data sites. Its really easy once you know how (pinpoint formation FTW).
Train missiles and start running combat sites for millions of isk per tick.

A combination of the above has made me into the 8 month 16 million SP character you see today.

You could do stuff with industry and blueprints and ship production but I have no idea about this magic...


Edit: also I hear you can enforce the code in highsec Cool
Dangirdas Bachir
The Exiled Titans
Weapons Of Mass Production.
#4 - 2013-11-26 12:33:16 UTC
Maybe you should start to roleplay, I'm quite sure it would spice up the career you already have. If it's not an option you should go join a corporation that does mining. Doing OPS at dangerous places might be quite fun from times to times.

EVE EVE STARGALACTIC CITY B I T C H

Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
New Eden Tech Support
#5 - 2013-11-26 13:01:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
Renis Vaille wrote:
I'm a relatively new player (1 year in with about 4.5mil SP). Joined an alliance out in low sec and station traded/PI'd my way up to about 700mil isk. Now I'm rather bored of this and want to try something new (but keep in mind I'm not big on PvP yet due to my low SP). Any suggestions on a low sec career that I can try out for now while avoiding combat for a little while? I know its impossible to avoid combat altogether in low sec and that's not what I'm trying to do here, just minimize it while I train and create a steady source of income to fund my account each month as well as all future PvP activities. I was thinking about trying lowsec exploration in a cov ops ship like the Helios? Just hate scanning with probes, so tedious. Any suggestions?


I have been PvP'ing for less than one month, in frigates, and have been eating people's lunch while riding an epic adrenaline rush - lack of SP is a lame azz excuse. You are PvP'ing whether you realize it or not and regardless of whether you want to or not... consider your market transactions, all those times you ran from blinky ships etc ... PVP. All of it.

If you can afford it, and this is not meant to be a dig of any type [not everyone can PLEX] ... I highly recommend dropping the Industrial career and starting to buy PLEX ... you wouldn't be bored with PvP and you wouldn't need to worry about loot, because frigates are cheap, if you did.


**EDIT** For the record, I also started out as an Industrial player with the goal of funding a PvP character - newsflash - the amount of effort and organization required to fund another account [because your Indy alt will consume your time] is time wasted considering your goals of starting to PvP. A vicious cycle, honestly. Buying PLEX will free up so much of your in-game time and get you to where you want to be so much faster. True story. Best of luck!
Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
New Eden Tech Support
#6 - 2013-11-26 13:07:07 UTC
Also, everyone here has given you solid advice that is in alignment with your stated goals. I know it can be perceived as a huge barrier but I swear it's in your head... sorta. Start with frigates before making expensive mistakes.
Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
New Eden Tech Support
#7 - 2013-11-26 13:14:42 UTC
Renis Vaille wrote:
I'm a relatively new player (1 year in with about 4.5mil SP). Joined an alliance out in low sec and station traded/PI'd my way up to about 700mil isk. Now I'm rather bored of this and want to try something new (but keep in mind I'm not big on PvP yet due to my low SP). Any suggestions on a low sec career that I can try out for now while avoiding combat for a little while? I know its impossible to avoid combat altogether in low sec and that's not what I'm trying to do here, just minimize it while I train and create a steady source of income to fund my account each month as well as all future PvP activities. I was thinking about trying lowsec exploration in a cov ops ship like the Helios? Just hate scanning with probes, so tedious. Any suggestions?


Also, get comfortable with scanning... there is no way around the need for probing whether it's for combat or anomalies etc ... there are some great tutorials online and some crucial support skills that can really speed up your scanning resolution etc.

Jamwara's ProTip : ditch industry, switch your main to PVP training for frigates and onto Assault Frigates. Use another account to train your scout alt and work as a hunter/killer team. Amazing fun.
Princess Saskia
Hyperfleet Industries
#8 - 2013-11-26 14:09:36 UTC
I don't know what you do at the moment but my suggestion would be:

Telesales

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baltec1
Bat Country
The Initiative.
#9 - 2013-11-26 14:15:18 UTC
Mess about with frigate pvp. Its cheap and fun.

Then pick a ship and master it.
Silvetica Dian
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2013-11-26 15:54:08 UTC
Hi,
i am less than a year old and have hundreds of pvp kills (none solo as i am an awful pvper). AF's, EAFs, interceptors, t1 cruisers, faction frigs and faction cruisers are very low SP requirement and all cheap.
Manufacturing and exploration are good forms of isk (convo /mail me ingame if you want a copy of my awesome guides for newbies on these professions).
WH's are fun to visit and easy isk (a drake can solo C1 and 2 and 2-3 drakes are perfect for C3.)
Personally i mix up missions, null sec exploration, manufacturing, trading, corp roles and PVP in order to explore as many aspects of eve as i can. So try a bit of everything but make sure you start soing PVP ASAP. PVP skills will make you safer doing anything else in eve, it is highly enjoyable, far more social than other things in eve and it is far better to learn in cheap ships at low SP than expensive ships later.

Money at its root is a form of rationing. When the richest 85 people have as much wealth as the poorest 3.5 billion (50% of humanity) it is clear where the source of poverty is. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/20/trickle-down-economics-broken-promise-richest-85

Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-11-26 16:19:01 UTC
Since you are in brave newbies I assume someone has changed your mind about pvp.

I don't have the link handy, but JohnnyPew on youtube has a video where he shows how to fit a T1 frigate and do lowsec exploration. Your chances of getting exploded are pretty high, but the ship is cheap. Don't know what to tell you about the probing. If you don't like probing after the serious dumbing down it got in Odyssey then you must really not llike probing. It seems that CCP is with you on that as they move away from probing and actual exploration all together.

[i]"The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental[/i]."

Inquisitor Ageri
Doomheim
#12 - 2013-11-26 16:27:28 UTC
As you already have industry skills, maybe take a look at Black Frog Logistics (corporation). They are a low-sec / null-sec courier service, and training for advanced transport ships (if you do not already have them) may be of benefit to your industrial & PI activities.
Eric D'Red
The Imperial LansDrahd
Empyrean Edict
#13 - 2013-11-26 21:17:34 UTC
Faction Warfare! Learn PVP and get LPs.
Unsuccessful's Assistant
Doomheim
#14 - 2013-11-26 21:25:19 UTC
How are you 1 year old player....



....and ONLY have 4.5mil sp?


Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#15 - 2013-11-27 01:46:49 UTC
Assault frigates. They are awesome.
Lazy Eagle
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2013-11-27 03:12:56 UTC
rifter, point, go tackle.

you don't even need guns. Big smile

7o
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#17 - 2013-11-27 04:13:03 UTC
Ptraci wrote:
Assault frigates. They are awesome.


At 4.5 mill SP (must have left his queue empty for long times over the last year), I doubt he has the skills to fly AFs and even if he does have racial frigates at 5 and trains AFs, he probably has huge gaps in supporting skills to be able to fly them well.

Based on 4.5 mil SP, I think factional frigates and go lose a heap of them is a good option.
SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#18 - 2013-11-27 05:18:49 UTC
If you won't PVP now because of ~reasons~ you won't PVP in the future because of ~reasons~.

The time to get your feet wet is when you are just starting out, so you can learn the basics BEFORE you are flying an expensive lossmail.
Vicky Somers
Rusty Anchor
#19 - 2013-11-27 05:26:58 UTC
Postponing pvp because you lack skill x or skill y is a very bad approach to Eve because you'll just end up using this excuse until you have 100k sp and a trillion isk and no experience at all.
Amhra Rho
Accujac Elimination
#20 - 2013-11-27 11:49:58 UTC
There are a lot of possibilities to choose from.

There's real reasons why your Eve character doesn't do /dance.

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