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Cyno Alt Accounts? Is that possible?
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Raven Ether
Doomheim
#1 - 2011-11-19 13:40:23 UTC
So there is this refer a friend you can do.


Can I send a 21d trial to myself, and then activate it with a plex sent from my main, and get back 1 month on my main account?

Essentially, creating a 1 month 21 day alt account and returning the paid time back to my main?

Is it legal?


After that period I just repeat the process retrain new chars etc etc.
Jenshae Chiroptera
#2 - 2011-11-19 13:42:49 UTC
Hmm... thanks for bringing this to CCP's attention. Roll

Either, they like it and want more active account from people or they will now remove it, so you better hurry up.

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Raven Ether
Doomheim
#3 - 2011-11-19 13:43:57 UTC
Well CCP already knows.


Hurrying up is meaningless as this is something for the long run..
BLACK-STAR
#4 - 2011-11-19 13:45:31 UTC  |  Edited by: BLACK-STAR
Yes you are allowed to do that.

edit:

oh, the last bit of your OP : abusing the buddy system might get you a warning.
Raven Ether
Doomheim
#5 - 2011-11-19 13:52:18 UTC
Abusing? Could an invite almost every 2 months be called abusing?
Har Harrison
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2011-11-19 13:52:37 UTC
It IS legal to do that

It is NOT legal to abuse the system
Raven Ether
Doomheim
#7 - 2011-11-19 13:54:40 UTC
Sure, but abusing can be a broad term.
BLACK-STAR
#8 - 2011-11-19 13:56:23 UTC
Raven Ether wrote:
Abusing? Could an invite almost every 2 months be called abusing?


go ahead and make your cyno alts, there are countless. but CCP doesn't appreciate people making dead accounts to harvest their redeemable gifts and rifting free time off a system that is meant to be a reward for a new subscriber.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#9 - 2011-11-19 13:58:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Andski
There's an appropriate place for these kinds of questions

open the game client, press F12

totally not an edit: I say that because GM responses aren't /that/ common on the forums

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#10 - 2011-11-19 14:11:17 UTC
BLACK-STAR wrote:
Raven Ether wrote:
Abusing? Could an invite almost every 2 months be called abusing?


go ahead and make your cyno alts, there are countless. but CCP doesn't appreciate people making dead accounts to harvest their redeemable gifts and rifting free time off a system that is meant to be a reward for a new subscriber.



I don't know if you can call it free time.

As from what I've read he wants to upgrade his "buddy" account with a Plex so he gets 1 month of game time. This in a way means he get's a temporary cyno alt but still pays 1 PLEX to get that month extra on his main.

So in a twisted kind of way you are paying for your own gametime.

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Raven Ether
Doomheim
#11 - 2011-11-19 14:20:22 UTC
Pretty much, temporary cyno alts is the target
Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#12 - 2011-11-19 14:51:06 UTC
The only thing you can't do is recycle alts to avoid the consequences of security status loss when ganking in highsec.

In the past CCP has raised voice against people using the free trials to get the redeemable items and to vote for CSM. But as far as I know, using them for cyno (or other) alts has never been a problem.
Terminal Insanity
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#13 - 2011-11-19 16:31:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Terminal Insanity
If you intend to keep the account subscribed and used, then yes you can use buddy invites. However if you plan to let the new buddy account expire and then repeat the process, making many accounts and letting them expire each time, CCP will ban you.

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David Estarra
Starside Lost
#14 - 2011-11-19 17:28:14 UTC
J'Poll wrote:


I don't know if you can call it free time.

As from what I've read he wants to upgrade his "buddy" account with a Plex so he gets 1 month of game time. This in a way means he get's a temporary cyno alt but still pays 1 PLEX to get that month extra on his main.

So in a twisted kind of way you are paying for your own gametime.


Not really.

Don't forget that the account that sends the buddy invite can receive a PLEX as a reward for the 'buddy' subscribing.

If they sell that one essentially they're getting 51 days on the alt for free.

(In fact with rising PLEX prices you could potentially turn a small profit).

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Amro One
One.
#15 - 2011-11-19 17:42:15 UTC
Give this moron a cookie for pointing out the obvious.

Good thing we have just smrt people.
Meardon I
The Coke Factory
#16 - 2011-11-20 21:24:37 UTC
Amro One wrote:
Give this moron a cookie for pointing out the obvious.

Good thing we have just smrt people.



A cookie and a ban for using an exploit :)
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Sadayiel
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#17 - 2011-11-20 22:00:10 UTC
David Estarra wrote:
J'Poll wrote:


I don't know if you can call it free time.

As from what I've read he wants to upgrade his "buddy" account with a Plex so he gets 1 month of game time. This in a way means he get's a temporary cyno alt but still pays 1 PLEX to get that month extra on his main.

So in a twisted kind of way you are paying for your own gametime.


Not really.

Don't forget that the account that sends the buddy invite can receive a PLEX as a reward for the 'buddy' subscribing.

If they sell that one essentially they're getting 51 days on the alt for free.

(In fact with rising PLEX prices you could potentially turn a small profit).



As far i recall you can do as many buddy accounts as you wish, and then upgrade them to get a *reward* o your main.

The *reward* it's either 1x free month game time on main account or 1x Plex not both. so if you use a PLEX to upgrade you get a PLEX back or a free month back wich means you are stuck in a endless loop without real profit (Change prices aside)


This is in theory Accepted with as many accounts as you wish, the exceptions are, mostly intended to avoid *FARMING* free items (used in the day to farm Quafe zero, or any GIFT from active account in the upcoming expansion like the new implants)

In the long term, if you plan to keep cyno alts account feel welcome to do so but just recycle the chars and biomass to make a new one (since make a new buddy account don't give you a real benefit) and you not need to keep making new and new accounts each month.

In the other side if you plan to use it as a loophole to farm the new Shuttle gift or the upcoming Implants one, expect a severe warning and maybe a ban from CCP