Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Fozzie, with these changes to warp, would be also be possible to visit the use of "friendly" webs when assisting Freighters into warp? Currently this earns a 60sec timer. Most of the time, the freighter will need more than 60 sec to complete a warp to the next gate - which avoids. Some form of remote agility unit would be a welcome in place of a "work around".

Disappointment and / or irritation, are key words.
Odyssey was Meh mixed with okey. Rubicon is GHAAA mixed with Ohh nooo, and a little bit of indifference.
I don't even have the energy to point out all the flaws because i know that there are 3 Groups, 1 group agrees with everything CCP does without question, 1 groupsays what ever they can to feed tears, and the third group don't agree or looks at things Objectively but rarely say anything due to the 2 first groups screaming louder.
CCP listens to the 2 first Groups.

Makes no sense. You have warpspeed inversely proportionate to the size of the hull, which is daft. Biggest ship would have largest warpcore and would therefore achieve higher warpspeeds.

In all seriousness, you're giving blanket changes by class of ship. It makes no sense for the slowest ship in a class to warp the same speed as the fastest ship in its class. This is ignoring your blatant disregard of physics ofcouse. Certainly faction hulls would warp much faster than t1/t2. Mach has higher base speed than most cruisers, also has faster align time, but warps like a t1 BS? Yeah, right.

I didn't see anything about this in the patch notes, does that mean these ( slightly horrible changes ) aren't going through, but instead you're going to wait til the next patch to rethink this atrocity?

Gah, i looked like 6 times.... great.... this terrible change is going through

OMFG thanks for making traveling anywhere in a battleship f*#king awful


Question - how are current warp speeds even closed to balanced? If I'm out ratting in a BS and a frig comes into system it can warp to a grav site, gank a barge, and be on its way out of system before I even get docked up to swap to a pvp ship. Seems a bit too extreme to me.

The engines on an oil tanker are much bigger than those on a jetski, so of course the oil tanker accelerates much faster and has a much higher top speed!

Right?

Absolutely! Everyone knows that oil tankers are famous for cruising at 300+ knots in international waters when nobody's looking. That business of going slowly is only when they're near a harbor or being filmed.

I hoped it wouldn't hit TQ in this state, but...

Is it intentional that BS hulls are being jammed into the garbage can with these warp speed modifications?
I can see where you wanted to go with the saller ships becoming fast, and all the glory to you, I think it is an interesting feature.
However, I don't see why the larger hulls had to be slowed to down to the point where BS size hulls become unusable outside of a LARGE fleet or it being bridged and thus not needing to warp.

Anyone ever thought of lowsec and how people actually WANT to warp around in a solo BS or small BS gang?
and even in hisec, its a pain to warp a BS a few systems across for a mission.
Having capital ship warp slower, enter my mind. they are cynoed most of the time.

But how about, while maintaining a difference in warp speeds and making it so intys can catch stuff, still leave subcaps usable.
Why even bother training a toon beyond 60 mill SP now is beyond me. MANY people people do not fly in big gangs.

Any chances you will be tweaking those speeds still, after live TQ?

This warping speed change is ultra bad thing.
In battleship it takes forever to do 160 AU or even 60 AU.

It's super stupid idea of ccp trying to change something that was working ok with old warping speeds.