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SP game breaking for new players. Please take your time to read this CCP.

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Propotkin
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#841 - 2013-11-15 17:16:00 UTC
Hefty TheFirst wrote:


Could you imagine starting to play WOW right now and have to grind through all of those expansions just to start playing the game at 90... Then the game only starts right?



So your saying that "if" I want to go play wow I should start at lvl 90 straight away ? or would I be a better player by starting at lvl 1 and learning how to play my character as I advance in lvl's ?

so you bought a character off the character bazar thing ? (bad spelling) does it mean your a better player because of it ? I for one would prefer a player who knows what his skills do but only has say 10mil sp's in my fleet any day than a character who has bought his character who has 100m sp's but doesn't have a clue.

Regards
proppy
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#842 - 2013-11-15 18:42:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Omar Alharazaad
Pick a direction, go with it. Warning, you will have to crawl through fire to get there. This is how the SP game works. As a rookie pilot you can pick any direction you wish, but regardless of the one you do you are still going to to have to crawl through fire to get there. Yes, it takes time. The reason for this is so that you have time to learn the basics of, or master all the nuances involved in the ship that you choose to fly. Bigger is not better; better is better... what you enjoy flying will be the most important ship you fly. If you have learned all the nuances of frigates and LOVE one of them in particular, then this is the ship for you. If you have dinked around with what modules can do for you and have developed a tactic that you LOVE to use, well then this is for you.. THERE IS NO LEVEL 90. THERE IS NO ENDGAME. The ENDGAME is WHERE YOU WANT IT TO BE..... that being said, learn to enjoy what it is, do not lament what is not, and fly safe o7.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
gozetec2002
Horizon Applied Megalogistics
#843 - 2013-11-15 18:56:39 UTC
Well....

I really hate to sound like an old man but...geez the sense of entitlement that new players have and some young people IRL have just gets to me.

To the OP, Eve is not for everyone. And reguardless of Skill Points, Eve has a huge learning curve and it can be extremely intimidating when you look at the big picture. The biggest difference between Eve Online and other MMORPG's out there is the actual focus of the game, and you have to always keep this in mind.

For example, Eve Online's focus is to create a player experience not based on Skill Points but based on a player's actions within the game. Everything you do, wether you choose to mine ore or PVP has an impact on the game, it's economy, and other players.

On the other hand games like WoW, GW2, and throw any other XP based game into the same bucket, the main focus of those games is the end game content.

So if you start playing eve with the intention of boxing with the big boys after a few months, you're setting yourself up for failure before you even sign up. But if you start playing Eve and just start training skill points, and focusing on the things that you are able to do like frigate and cruiser ops then you'll have a lot more fun with the game. Get in game, find a big corp, and learn learn learn is the best advice I can give any new player or any player that's been out for a while.

And finally some words to set people on the right path, This is Eve Online, and not World of EveCraft. Posts like this are as old as the game, and rest assured that CCP will never, ever change that mechanic, nor will they ever offer any kind of SP boost for any kind of RL money or PLEX.

That is all...
Goz
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#844 - 2013-11-15 19:09:12 UTC
gozetec2002 wrote:
Well....

I really hate to sound like an old man but...geez the sense of entitlement that new players have and some young people IRL have just gets to me.

I couldn't agree more. I'm not sure if it's restricted to the current youth or even youth. When I was younger some people I knew were like this. Their momma gave them everything so they acted like everything was entitled to them. Once you get in the real world you quickly realize when you run out of food you don't have moms milk to fall back on lol.

I also know some "adults" that still live in their moms house because they're unable to make it in the world. Many of those are gamers because no job or friends means lots of free time to play games.
Marcus Walkuris
Aww yeahhh
#845 - 2013-11-15 23:30:57 UTC
I would call that a sense of futility not entitlement.
There are a lot of things wrong with todays world.
Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
SL33PERS
#846 - 2013-11-16 07:00:00 UTC
The skillpoint system is the main draw in this game for me. I'm not young any more, I can't play 24/7 for days on end. I have a job, etc. etc. But the skills keep training while I work, while I sleep, you get the idea. And the "level" cap is so high that you can keep going towards it indefinitely. Even people that have played 10+ years are about 1/2 of the way to max skill points or so? Sure, I won't be able to get even with them, but that's cause I just started playing, and that's ok.

After an year, I'll have pretty good skills in a chosen area of the game, I will be 100% proficient at something. Then I will turn my training towards another area. There's so much choice of what to do. Repeat ad nauseum. I really like how the character is built up in terms of what they are good at, and what they can merely do. Did I mention that I like the skillpoint system?

But anyway, having a character and developing it makes me giddy somehow, and this game is just perfect for that.
Bo Bojangles
Interstellar Renegades
#847 - 2013-11-19 21:35:06 UTC
Hey OP

That cert planner thing is ok for a easy guide to show you what skills you might want for a given ship, but don't worry about following it to skill stuff up to w/e it says the recommended level is, it will keep you skilling until you die, which is it's intent.
Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
New Eden Tech Support
#848 - 2013-11-20 13:45:10 UTC
The obvious lack Dev posting should tell us all something... that OP is growing pearls in their tender wrinkle

Thank me later :D
Zor'katar
Matari Recreation
#849 - 2013-11-20 21:50:18 UTC
The OP followed this thread for a total of 28 hours... 8 months ago. Let's move on, people.
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#850 - 2013-11-20 21:54:41 UTC
Zor'katar wrote:
The OP followed this thread for a total of 28 hours... 8 months ago. Let's move on, people.


I think this thread is waiting to be locked for "lack of new content". It's funny how some threads are locked instantly for this reason while ones like this go on and on.. and on... and on
Zor'katar
Matari Recreation
#851 - 2013-11-20 21:57:33 UTC
IIshira wrote:
Zor'katar wrote:
The OP followed this thread for a total of 28 hours... 8 months ago. Let's move on, people.


I think this thread is waiting to be locked for "lack of new content". It's funny how some threads are locked instantly for this reason while ones like this go on and on.. and on... and on

I actually flagged it a while back asking for a mercy lock... no luck, though. Sad
Debra Tao
Perkone
Caldari State
#852 - 2013-11-20 22:04:20 UTC
I am still getting likes from posts that are 8 months old. Please don't lock this thread quite yet.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#853 - 2013-11-21 02:02:03 UTC
Ruling on the field is no new content on the field, thread will be closed. Thanks to those that participated.

Blows whistle.

ISD Dorrim Barstorlode

Senior Lead

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