Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Go forth and report some actual performance figures then.

When they deem the world ready for pink thorax fleets.

I have been trying out the new marauders on sisi in lv 4 missions and i think its incredible

[Rubicon Kronos, El Destructo]
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Core B-Type Armor Kinetic Hardener
Core B-Type Armor Thermic Hardener
Core A-Type Large Armor Repairer
Expanded Cargohold II

Large Micro Jump Drive
Core X-Type 100MN Microwarpdrive
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 25
Federation Navy Tracking Computer, Optimal Range Script

Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Antimatter Charge L
Bastion Module I
Salvager II
Salvager II
Salvager II

Large Hybrid Burst Aerator II
Large Hybrid Metastasis Adjuster I

Navy cap booster 800
Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Salvage drone x5
2x Mobile tractor units

1595 dps with void ammo and drones

Have 2 mobile tractor units in your cargo to pull all wrecks close to you and salvage while you shredd anything apart with your blasters
The Cargo expander is to get more space for your loot and the tractor units
Tanks any lv 4 and if things get hairy you can always use the Microjumpdrive to get out of harms way.

The only thing i would like to change is that the tractor bonus the marauders get should be changed to a salvage bonus, like a 400% salvager range bonus.

That's funny.

Disappointed... Well, looks like these marauders are going to turn out still fairly useless, even in their new added role. They should had kept the 7.5% per level rep/boost bonus, gave marauders proper t2 resistances, then instead of bastion giving that silly 30% resistance bonus they should add made it give 100% damage. Would had made marauder hulls a bit more tanky by themselves and made marauders with bastion pretty much tank the same dps, and add a nice dps increase, somewhere around vindicator level, which would be suitable for shooting **** stars in high sec in a subcap. Dps would be around 2k, no where near 13k - 15k dps that a Moros can produce. I honestly don't understand why CCP are afraid to push the buffs. Better make them good or slightly op, something you can fix later, than almost useless tanks that are only good as sponges soaking enemy dps. Oh well... Guess when I'll need to bash a POS I'll just use a sentry drone boat to avoid hindrance from jams and keep my ships worth far less in case a blob decides to show up that would be able to out-dps a marauders tank anyways. They're just, sigh.. not good enough to be worth putting out there and risked considering you'll probably want to at least make a marauder worth 2 bil +, with deadspace mods and **** to make their tank bigger.

How did you get 1595 with null and drones?

Using Hammerheads, all level 5 skills and the two DPS implants SS-906 and LH-1006, I get 1309.

1. Why Golem doesnt have build in bonus from EW module and is forced to waste med/tank slot to be usefull?

2. Why Bastion module got double range bonus on turrets (25% to optimal and 25% to falloff) while only 25% to missile speed (why its not 50% or at least 37,5% since missiles doesnt have falloff)?

3. Does Bastion module makes Golem invulnerable against defender missiles same as makes rest marauders invulnerable against tracking disruptors?

4. Why Golem is the only marauder who doesnt have damage bonus or rof bonus


p.s:
How Bastion Module will help on typical L4 mission where u got two warpgates, each 50km from waping point? Before changes u could shoot, tank and move in same time. In Rubicon u will need to choose between shooting and tanking or moving (since turning on Bastion will kill your speed and without it u got weaker tank than before because of nerfed cap), so overall u will need more time to do same thing (and 99% people is using marauders for PVE anyway).
My Golem EFT setup got cap stable at 47% while rubicon Golem got cap barelly stable at 34% despite exact modules in both setups. Now i will need to stop to rep my ship while before Rubicon i did not need.

Raven has 6 launchers and 25% RoF.

That makes 6 * 1.3333334 = 8

Golem has 4 * 2 = 8

So same as raven.

Lets compare damage differences between T1 and T2 hulls:

Tempest with 6x 1400mm T2 and EMP got 336dps
Vargur with 4x 1400mm T2 and EMP got 359dps (so overall 7% increase in damage)

Apocalypse with 8x Tachyons T2 and Multifrequency got 364dps
Paladin with 4x Tachyons T2 and Multifrequency got 455dps (so overall 25% increase in damage)

Megathron with 7x 425mm Rails T2 and Antimatter got 373dps
Kronos with 4x 425mm Rails T2 and Antimatter got 400 dps (so overall 7% increase in damage)

Raven with 6x Cruise Launcher T2 and Scourge got 362dps
Golem with 4x Cruise Launchers T2 and Scourge got 362 dps (nothing)
+fact that u need to wait for missiles to reach target and waste med slot for something that should be build in



If we talk about range difference:
Tempest with 6x 1400mm T2 and EMP got 30+44km range
Vargur with 4x 1400mm T2 and EMP got 30+66km range (22km better falloff)

Apocalypse with 8x Tachyons T2 and Multifrequency got 45+25km
Paladin with 4x Tachyons T2 and Multifrequency got 45+25km (no difference in range, but still 25% more damage)

Megathron with 7x 425mm Rails T2 and Antimatter got 36+30km range
Kronos with 4x 425mm Rails T2 and Antimatter got 36+38km range (8km better falloff)

Raven with 6x Torpedo Launcher T2 and Scourge got 30km
Golem with 4x Torpedo Launchers T2 and Scourge got 30km (nothing, no damage increase, no range increase)
+fact that u need to wait for missiles to reach target and waste med slot for something that should be build in

Well we dont even have range mods for missiles.