EVE General Discussion

There has been talk of the issue of isk entering the game a higher levels than before, with no real counter in the way of isk sinks.

If you were a dev what would you do to make more isk leave the system?

We need more ships blown up.

- Interactive Channels for CQ, pay isk for cool channels like live batttle feeds, or access to external station cameras

- Advertising Fees - Allow Corps or alliances to post ads on the CQ Screens, and Billboards. Regional / Constellation / System transmission fees depending on local bids for air time. Not just recruit ads, but sell/buy ads, Mercenary Requests, etc. Basically whatever they desire.

- Larger tax for Jump Cloning, and Jump Clone Installation. 100k is nothing. And we're currently charged 0 isk for jumping. Shouldnt we need to pay Usage Based Billing bandwidth fees depending on our level training?

- Agent Introduction Fees (Pay your current agent to introduce you to one of her limited contacts, would make agent system interesting too)

- Insurance - Remove it entirely

- Concord Fees - You pay your monthly concord protection fee, at your protection level, depending on the response time / alpha / ecm options you like... If you want concord. Newbs get free concord protection up to certain SP level.

- Spy Agents - Beef up agent's ability to track people, to also find out their privately held certificates, Recent Transactions (some limits maybe), Implants or Boosters, all additional information costing more then the basic location info.

- Gate Usage Fees - Fees depending on concord /Security oft he system. nullsec set by sov holder up to a maximum limit

- Portrait Re-customization Fees - charge us isk for re-customization/update of our portrait.

- Dock Fees as Standard - Make docking fees standard, not just an optional SOV thing.

- Map Features as Optional - Make the various Star Map stats a subscription based service, so we need to subscribe to Sov Package to get updates about sov changes, or subscribe to Statistics Package to get intel about cynos and number of jumps. This of course would require the Star Map to become more integrated and easier to take advantage of

That's a material sink, not an isk sink. Buying a ship does not remove ISK from the game, it merely tranfers ISK to the manufacturer/seller. And making ships is completely free apart from the nominal fee in NPC stations and the one time BPO fee.

I agree with the poster above me though - this goes back to a dev blog I was reading where CCP is trying to make it harder and harder to run large corporations/alliances. Make there be some sort of logistical part of the equation that increases exponentially with the size of the alliance, be it a docking fee, a "lease-hold" fee charged by the 4 main factions for holding nullsec systems, etc. Just like starbase charters can only be gotten from NPC corps via the LP store, there could be some other item or series of items that need to be included on a daily basis just to keep an empire/alliance alive.

But CCP knows better than everyone else how many people there are out there ratting in their supercaps. That's another thing - rat bounties could be reduced to match the difficulty of the kill. So killing a rat battleship in a T1 frigate would get you the maximum bounty while killing it in a dreadnaught would get you very little bounty.

As a matter of fact, pend insurance is one of the largest isk faucets in the game...

No because isk isn't going away. Which means there are more in the system and those officer mods cost more isk. Imagine if 10 isk was a **** ton of money. A cormack's modified tracking computer went for like 500 isk. The value of the mod would be the same. Only difference is how much physical isk is trading hands.

Currency isn't obligated to go away. It can depreciate. At the end of the day, the value of ISK, and the corresponding value of goods such as minerals and loot, exist in a state of balance that reflects the difficulty of obtaining either in relation to the other.

The armchair economists are quick to cry "witch!" for all of the "ISK sinks" in the game, without understanding how the system really works.

What you want to do is put a damper on ISK printing machines (NPC bounties), instead of destroying the ISK in existence. This would lead to a more stable economy.


And what's going to happen when the entirety of the game's ISK gets used up by clone costs, CSPA charges, and skillbook purchases?

Ship upkeep.
More costly LP stores.
Cargo fees and market density fees (just to screw up the hubs both ways at the same time… )
…and by “one of the largest”, you mean “the second smallest” (since it's #3 on a list of four main faucets).

Until we can convert isk into real life alcohol via aurum, I'm not sure what ccp can do to touch my wallet

I would start tweaking the faucets before creating new isk sinks.

For sinks:
-rent out the stations in empire space to player corporations who in turn get some of the income (reprocessing and broker fees etc.) and can refuse access to enemies
- add no-claim discounts to insurance, raise fee for people who lose too much
- add corporate forumspace you can rent for isk