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Reselling T2 bpo's is serious Business
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Sinep Bathana
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-11-12 18:50:48 UTC
So i have heard this story about people making alooot of isk by doing this. Is this true? How does this works?
Vilton
Infinity Engine
#2 - 2013-11-12 19:01:05 UTC
Sinep Bathana wrote:
So i have heard this story about people making alooot of isk by doing this. Is this true? How does this works?


Buy low, sell high. Has never been difficult, really.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#3 - 2013-11-13 00:59:14 UTC
First you purchase a T2 BPO.

Secondly, you contract it to me. I then use my extensive contacts among manufacturing circles to sell it.

Third, around a week later, I send the ISK to you, less a fee on profits. (Generally I charge 10% of the spread between buy and sell price if the profit is under one billion, and 6% of the profit if it exceeds one billion).

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
sci0gon
Kaira Innovations
#4 - 2013-11-13 07:27:31 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Third, around a week later, I send the ISK to you, less a fee on profits. (Generally I charge 10% of the spread between buy and sell price if the profit is under one billion, and 6% of the profit if it exceeds one billion).

lol

buy cheap and sell high is pretty much the key with it.

if you want to see how well some people do by that, you can do just open up contracts and check for the corp called first moon industries, one of the guys from there is pretty much a known reseller by those who frequent the blueprints channel and to give you a example of one of his resells to get a rough idea of profit

Modulated Deep Core Miner II Blueprint was purchased for 10bil a few months ago and is currently being resold for 50bil.


even for resellers there are drawbacks which you must take into account before doing so and in my eyes the two main ones are the amount of isk required and after becoming a more known reseller people will start to ignore your sales in the future so you may want to consider a alt for buying and selling or a few of them.

personally ive only resold one t2 bpo and this was back before invention was even in the game.

50mm Reinforced Steel Plates II Blueprint was purchased for 500mil and resold for 1bil and if I kept that one till this day I could of sold it for a lot more but if im honest I wouldn't even wipe my rear end with it, that's how crap it is and yet its obscenely overpriced today.
Samroski
Middle-Earth
#5 - 2013-11-13 19:07:29 UTC
All T2 BPOs are "overpriced" as they are collector items. Many never get produced off.

The ideal time to get into the market was a couple of years ago. In the last year and a half prices have shot up like crazy. Thus the need for a large amount of capital to get into the business. I think there are still profits to be made, though the bigger fish are now massive...

Any colour you like.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#6 - 2013-11-13 23:03:09 UTC
Still waiting for you to take up my offer.

There are a lot of tricks involved in extracting max value from T2 BPOs, not really something you can do on your own. My consulting fees are expensive but worthwhile.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Zahara Cody
Imperial Corrections Service.
#7 - 2013-11-14 05:47:04 UTC
8 month totals...

Buy - 468.3 bil
Sell - 905.5 bil

Profit - 437.2 bil

Others have done way better.

Hating is free, that's why poor people do it the best.
Big Lynx
#8 - 2013-11-14 18:10:33 UTC
It's the top notch category of trading. Cool
Sinep Bathana
Doomheim
#9 - 2013-11-14 20:16:57 UTC
Zahara Cody wrote:
8 month totals...

Buy - 468.3 bil
Sell - 905.5 bil

Profit - 437.2 bil

Others have done way better.


How did you do this? Only from T2 bpos? How did you buy them? of contracts?
Huttan Funaila
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-11-14 21:36:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Huttan Funaila
Sinep Bathana wrote:
How did you do this? Only from T2 bpos? How did you buy them? of contracts?


T2 BPO are usually sold in the "sell orders" forum. Sometimes they're posted as auctions, sometimes what is posted isn't owned by the person. Sometimes the "auctions" are for things that don't exist.

Frequently, they're priced at absurd levels, such as this sale for 2x T2 rocket BPO. And this comment:
BobRoss2 wrote:
Mjolnir Javelin Rocket Blueprint makes 60k ISK/H
Would take 19 years of running the BPO to pay for its self.

Inferno Javelin Rocket Blueprint makes 20k ISK/H
Would take 57 years of running the BPO to pay for its self.

Why would I buy either of these?

explains why reselling them isn't a good market unless you are trying to resell them to stamp collectors or are willing to hold them for years.

I don't know about other people, but I stick to ones needing a maximum 3-5 year payback times.
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#11 - 2013-11-14 22:50:17 UTC
Huttan Funaila wrote:
Sinep Bathana wrote:
How did you do this? Only from T2 bpos? How did you buy them? of contracts?


T2 BPO are usually sold in the "sell orders" forum. Sometimes they're posted as auctions, sometimes what is posted isn't owned by the person. Sometimes the "auctions" are for things that don't exist.

Frequently, they're priced at absurd levels, such as this sale for 2x T2 rocket BPO. And this comment:
BobRoss2 wrote:
Mjolnir Javelin Rocket Blueprint makes 60k ISK/H
Would take 19 years of running the BPO to pay for its self.

Inferno Javelin Rocket Blueprint makes 20k ISK/H
Would take 57 years of running the BPO to pay for its self.

Why would I buy either of these?

explains why reselling them isn't a good market unless you are trying to resell them to stamp collectors or are willing to hold them for years.

I don't know about other people, but I stick to ones needing a maximum 3-5 year payback times.


unless CCP decides to shaft all T2 BPO owners by removing the BPOs from the game (which is highly unlikely in my opinion), the pricewill only ever go up. this means that even if you only produce for a year or so, you can always just resell for a higher price afterwards.

I should buy an Ishtar.
Muffet McStrudel
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2014-01-02 17:37:56 UTC
ROI on T2 BPO is not what you should be looking at. The real value is in limiting the market and driving up the price of the item you have in question.

You can debate whether a single T2 BPO is "worth it" and by straight ROI calculation it will never be. T2 owners like myself aren't willing to bend over so you can walk away with a hefty profit.

The real value and future for these is in alliances being able to control production to make even more profit. If you own more than one of the same BPO, I assure you any investment is WELL worth it.

And lastly, people ARE willing to pay for them despite your sanitary analysis on "value".

That being said, shameless plug on my T2 BPO Auction ...

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=307240&find=unread
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#13 - 2014-01-05 00:37:04 UTC
Muffet McStrudel wrote:
ROI on T2 BPO is not what you should be looking at. The real value is in limiting the market and driving up the price of the item you have in question.

You can debate whether a single T2 BPO is "worth it" and by straight ROI calculation it will never be. T2 owners like myself aren't willing to bend over so you can walk away with a hefty profit.

The real value and future for these is in alliances being able to control production to make even more profit. If you own more than one of the same BPO, I assure you any investment is WELL worth it.

And lastly, people ARE willing to pay for them despite your sanitary analysis on "value".

That being said, shameless plug on my T2 BPO Auction ...

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=307240&find=unread



The other thing you can do with BPOs is create demand for the item. If I owned a Mackinaw BPO you could bet your bottom dollar I'd fund suicide ganking competitions.

The goal of pushing up the Mackinaw price would be to increase the perceived value of the BPO. Any production profit would be a bonus - the real goal would be capital gains from selling the BPO at its artificial maximum price.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com