Live Events Discussion

That really makes no sense I'm afraid as I read it : you think I PLEX...and as stated I've never PLEX'd.

I think the significant point if you PLEX is you are not the sucker paying for a minimally managed poorly run game.

Rage quitting is silly ... however up to this point I have been paying for my main and plexing alts as i like the idea of "doing the right thing" and contributing financially to the game.

From this point on I will only plex and if limited time to play EVE eventually means my account goes inactive (which is likely for me when Pathfinder Online kicks off next year) I will take it as time to fade away and leave EVE to the goons.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-L0PZGN3XI

Fortunately we have the movie from the perspective from the Razor fleet. I laughed pretty hard seeing this, and i am also not suprised by who was leading the Razor fleet. Only one man in EVE can lead a massacre like that. Hehehehe.

Unfortunately i couldn't make it because of irl stuff, but i would have loved to be part of the carebear execution squad. Ah well, thats life i guess.

The only thing which suprises me is the utter retardness of people thinking "hey lets send a good 2000 high sec carebears to a system in null sec. WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG?"

From a null sec perspective: Not much really.

Actually thank you very much for posting that, It showed things very clearly.

It is not credible that anyone was so "incompetent" as to do that accidentally.

Looks like they couldn't even be bothered to pretend it was an event after getting everyone to the initial muster points.

Just string them out over 20+ systems with TiDi as an "explanation" and feed them in.

Well at least we know what happened, Maybe CCP can shed some light as to why they led over 2000 intentionally to their deaths as a nicely wrapped Gift and were any arrangements made for payment or favors to anyone ? It is hard to come up with a motive that makes any sense.

There must have been some reason and motive for doing it?

I know silence is sometimes best, but Did you really think that videos like this would not come out? And that people would not share their experiences? We are well beyond the stage where hiding from your customers is a good idea.

We are hoping you can come out with some justification or explanation.

Was it a Corporate decision or the actions of rogue developers?

The worst result for your playerbase is that we come to the conclusion that you just do not care either way.

we assumed the best, then we got worried and then we realised that never in our worst nightmares could we grasp the thought of what actually happened.

Many still have not, but the longer it goes on the more people will get over their factional bias and say "Why"

You're going to get called names for the following:

- Winning
- Losing
- Having a badly fitted ship
- Having an expensively fitted ship (despite the fact you could afford it anyway.)
- Being good
- Being bad
- Everything else.

Smack is not a flaw, it's like spice - it adds to the flavor.

The one thing people keep misunderstanding is the fact null people aren't really that afraid of an attack by hisec. We're really not, the reason it didn't work is that nearly every hisec carebear wants to be a special snowflake and doesn't listen to the FC/get into a not terrible fit ship that won't make his wallet blink.

That and when after meditating for many hours and experiencing a self-discovery (That their wallets are full and listening to people isn't making their spacedicks shrink) they realize it's actually fun, they usually join the ~evil crowd~ and have a blast shooting folk.

Eve isn't a sand box. Or if it is a sand box it's a Viking sand box. There are endless shiny tools to smash up other people's sand castles and mechanics to ruin their sand sculptures whilst the folks that like to build sand castles have a few warped and misshaped object d'art to craft with.

Sure you can market trade, because Vikings need a place to buy weapons and ships. You can mine, because weapons need ore. You can manufacture because someone needs to turn that ore into weapons. But at the end of the day a Viking hits someone with that weapon and takes their stuff, then gets drunk and mates with their livestock.

Have you ever wondered why the market interface or industry haven't been updated in forever? Well that stuff is for serfs and unmanly man.

This is a Viking sand box for Vikings.

If you can find some way to have fun as a non-Viking that's great but mostly, eventually, you'll realize that your occupation isn't really supported or developed or, in many case, fun. If the Vikings look over at you and you're doing something that they can't pillage or you seem to be making too much money, they will pray to their developer gods to be allowed tools to grief you, or just get their developer gods to nerf your play style.

Because you aren't playing a Viking.

Looked at from this angle, if one wanted to be charitable to CCP, the story of this live event look more like something out of the first crusade. In 1095 Pope Urban called for a great crusade that ended up being tasked with recapturing the holy lands. The denizens of high sec (er, Europe) responded en masse and started heading for Constantinople. The Pope failed to provide guidance or even food, they traveled under terrible conditions and some turned back, yet many persevered despite the lack of planning, the lack of supplies, and the lack of organization. Many of the people's crusade pushed on to the holy lands.

Where they were summarily dispatched by the trained Turks who had had ample notice of their arrival, were disciplined and trained in war.

So Eve is Real. Sort of. If you hand wave rather vigorously... Urban didn't direct the people's crusade, he didn't march them around in circles or send his commanders to lead them into ambushes. Etc.

And he did give the crusaders a definite target and a target that needed substantial military force to overcome. He didn't send them after poorly guarded secret, hidden, facilities by announcing to the entire world that those secret facilities were the target.

If you are mad about this event then it might be worth stepping back for a moment and asking yourself... Why should CCP always role play competent commanders? Not only competent commanders but commanders that are far more competent than some of their real life contemporaries?

It sucks that your time was wasted. At least you got to sort-of make a mark, and have a (not very complimentary) story to tell other people about Eve and CCP. How many ages would you have to play another MMORPG in order to get a story like this, even if you were they butt of the joke?

It sucks that someone, like me, that doesn't have much interest in being a Viking gets to sort through a thousand iterations of ways to kill people and take their stuff only to find that there are zero iterations of building a space house.

But that's the game, it's what you pay for or choose not to pay for. An awful lot of people have chosen not to pay for it, which maybe should be pause for thought for CCP.

Everything you say is very true.but even vikings need the support of their home community to enable them to fight.
Without food weapons and ships they are just loud drunks.
And if they take on those roles themselves, they are no longer warriors but kept slaves in the stockade.


Oh and pope Urban the second lived 11 years in power even though he tried to be a peacemaker between the different countries of Europe.
Apparently he appeased one of the power blocks by providing them with patronage gifts and loot from the conquered lands and when the gifts were not enough died mysteriously.

Yup really like the historical comparison.

If you want a CCP reply mass open petitions.

As for you nullbears you guys are the most risk averse players there are. If numbers aren't in your favor what do you do? You dock up and blueball. Not to mention that most the time you are running anomalies that are PVE. When someone comes in your system what do you do? Thats right you run to a POS or Station. So who is the bigger carebear, null is safer than high sec and yes I live in both.
Like I said before the problem was in highsec organisation not with dying.... But I still had fun just had to ignore the CCP FC and use common sense. There is noway a null alliance would move 1300 pilots by gates in null due to TIDI they would just bridge them.

Now forgive me for quoting myself but compare the above "CTA Event" to Z9PP and now to this:

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