Live Events Discussion

Lets be honest there are plenty of solo and small gang types that do, I've enjoyed roaming out from wh space and I have enjoyed flying with a few of the NPC 0.0 groups, all of which enjoy more challenging types of PvP without the need for CTA's, none of which want SOV, or want to take part in SOV. This is what nullsec blocs use to justify themselves as a 'powerful' entity, "If you want this space come and take it", most nullsec corps have moved around to wherever the grass is greener.

My opinion is only groups that want to build supers need move to SOV space, that and to inflate their leaders ego, truth is anyone who can play eve can rat in someone elses space and be fine and sure you'll get caught out by the occasional gate camp if you have no scout.

CCP don't care, they'll only care when the the playerbase all slowly go inactive due to having no one to gang up on and act all superior to, or when they realize that superior content generation makes them far cooler than being "internet viking warrior nerds who drink a lot and find it 'cool' to bully people"

There's a number of people here that need to understand that some - maybe most - of the people who are stably in hisec aren't there out of fear, or noobieness, or incapacity. Some certainly are, but others are there because that is the way they decided to play their game.

We pay a subscription to have access to the EVE galaxy; but each of us has a life outside the game and some of us have more time and energy to spend in it, others don't.

All nullsec blocs started in hisec. Every single one of those people has owned a rookieship in some 1.0 system. At a certain point - some sooner, some later - they took a ship to losec, and then to nullsec.
Everyone can do this if they really want to.
Why do some think everyone should wish to play the game the way they play it? EVE's a PVP game and all that - true, so what? The most valid reason why people do not move to nullsec is they do not want to.
Those who do want it, eventually move to WH, or to losec, or directly to null through renting or joining an alliance.

So the simple reason there's no hisec alliance organized enough to take on a nullsec alliance? Those who are, and are willing to, have moved out of hisec or are about to do so.

Or biding their time until their subscription runs out while in that time perhaps plotting how to scam, steal, spy, gank, disrupt and play the part of ebil piwate on the unsuspecting noobs who dwell in the NPC corps and who are on trial accounts. Perhaps some people are thinking of ways as disgusting as that which CCP have regarded them in that killing the children prevents them from becoming stronger in adulthood or in this case killing the trial accounts and noobs removes possible subscribers. I think we know that from the outset EVE Online is a very daunting place and you'll pay with cold hard cash until you find your niche that you can make enough to buy PLEX (I've personally only ever funded my accounts with cold hard cash and on yearly subscription but that wil certainly change if I choose to resubscribe) but if these ebil piwates start pwning noobs left right and center how many do you think will keep putting that cash to feed the machine that kills them?

On the flip side this would act as a Darwinian model of getting rid of the weak as this not only gives the noobs a sense of the reality of EVE Online but it also helps them to HTFU as that seems to really get them interested in Null Sec or PvP from what I've seen so far. The weak will leave and the strong will survive, if they are allowed to get that far. I wonder how many times you have to kill a noob before they just pack up and head of to play a console game? A challenge to the social experiement it could well be.

As for the Null Blocs, well, they'll keep PLEXing until there's no more PLEX and eventually no more CCP. With DUST514 being a F2P game I don't really see a revenue stream from that and WoD isn't released yet AFAIK.

Some people have been in this game from it's outset and have amassed stockpiles of ore, BPO's and components. For someone like this ship loss isn't really anything to worry about and they could even offer a SRP for those willing to participate. Now we know from James315 that CCP doesn't interfere in these kinds of tactics as all the Null Seccers will agree that this is "a sandbox".

Imagine this as a "Noobaggedon" if you will only it runs all year round until there are no more noobs to kill and those that are left pay through the roof for a PLEX of which the price has continued to rise until 1) There are no more PLEX 2) People spend all their time just trying to get the ISK for a PLEX until the first condition is met.

A bleak outlook that some may very well be considering as it is nearly the end of Monday and the working day and nothing from CCP has been heard not even a "We are sincerely sorry but we are still monitoring and are in discussions".

You've completely misread my post my friend. Go back and re-read it. I think I've been one of the most active people against what happened on 07-11 and holding CCP to account so I'm completely with you.

Some of your comments I have disagreed with but I fully commend you for understanding the above and applaud the clear description.

I agree with you, in fact the only reason I am still playing is the siphons and the personal structures, I was just about to close my accounts and then read the update and thought hmm interesting!

In terms of this event, I think its sad to see that CCP has still not reacted to it and I think that will result in lost accounts, its highly possible they are having a indepth debrief and checking logs, but then again they may not. The silence is rather worrying for those that were very upset by this, CCP has definately take their eye off the ball here.

First of all I am not quitting Eve because of this, also I did not go, I expected a lagfest and that was my reason not to go, one of my corpmates did go however and gave me a detailed run down of what was going on.

I think you don't get it like so many other 0.0 focussed players, the hisec players knew they would lose their ships, no issue for them, but you say they should have gotten off the failtrain and it was their fault for doing that, well perhaps some of them wanted to complete and be part of this event and was not going to let TiDi stop them, just like 0.0 players continue to fight in heavy Tidi, hell they could log there too, but they don't. They wanted to complete and be part of that event and I have respect for those that tried to inspite of the mess that the event turned into, they had every right to expect better...

While I appreciate what you are saying I believe that "rabblerabble brigade" AKA paying customers and those with legitimate concerns regarding not only this even but also the aftermath have the right to question the very people who missold this event to them.

Further to the above people spent their RL time (even taking time of work so they could participate) jumping through that 10% TiDi in the hope to add content, experience something unique and make it to the destination to participate not to have CCP end the event by blowing the objective before most of the fleets had arrived.

It seems that CCP may very well just be spending all their time on the most recent scandal rather than addressing this one or they be in heavy debriefing sessions. No response on here or Twitter (OFC as this is the new official communications for EVE Online). Those that want to view the latest and what "Customer Support over the course of the weekend" re-investigated while we are still awaiting a further update response view this. It may amuse you while you wait another day or so

Nice Job CCP. Now Can We All Get 17m Free Skillpoints Also?

Maybe Erotica1 has doubled one of the Devs' ISK.