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Formosus Funus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#61 - 2013-11-10 19:10:55 UTC
epicurus ataraxia wrote:
Formosus Funus wrote:
epicurus ataraxia wrote:
Formosus Funus wrote:
epicurus ataraxia wrote:
Actually this is hilarious!
Did anyone of you read the original post understand that this was a test of whether you were able to understand more than a spew of nullsqwark?

Actually it was a reasoned and intelligent recommendation to CCP

You turned it into a test that you failed.Twisted

Thank you for proving the matter in such a succinct manner

I Never would have thought it possible, but you have trolled yourselves!

You're a test as well, you are genetic test set up by evolution... Darwin cries from the inside in his grave, I feel bad for himSad

Go on go on more homespun nullsqwark please, It is impossible to marry your cousin in this game, leave the rest to you to work out.

Never go full 'special' mate, never.



Actually it was more a case of you first. But never mind.

You just continue proving my point then? You as well could take off those sunglasses on your char which you use to hide your tears, there can't possibly be any meaningful dignity to save.
epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#62 - 2013-11-10 19:12:27 UTC
Sorry was meant to be under this one.

There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE

dark dreamur
Guild of Independent Pilots
DammFam
#63 - 2013-11-10 19:23:20 UTC
Maximus Aerelius wrote:
I personally do not think that a rollback is in order. This would undoubtedly affect so many more people than the 2-3000 characters andif they didn't do it after Incarna they won't do it for this.

To the Null Sec Bloc or those battering the "Carebears" please don't insult us. We are paying customers with legitimate concerns and feel that we have the right to voice them on whatever means we can in order to be heard above the chest beating of the people who so marvellously executed the massacre that was "like shooting fish in a barrel."

Now for those that would like see how Null Bloc players deal with a similar event go here threadnaught of rage and see just how many kicked off when this kind of thing happens to them.

Please try to understand what the actual RL concerns are that people are voicing and not just spout venom and insults on the forums, this is aimed every play style in EVE, as if it has\did\will happen to you you'd like to think that community would support open and honest communication and not just try to smack down anyone that try to raise their voice to complain.

Now something to think about below:

Pastor Niemoller wrote:
They came for the communists, but I wasn’t a communist – so I didn’t object;
They came for the socialists, but I wasn’t a socialist – so I didn’t object;
They came for the trade union leaders, but I wasn’t a trade union leader – so I didn’t object;
They came for the Jews, but I wasn’t a Jew – so I didn’t object;
Then they came for me – and there was no one left to object

And by that time there was no one left to speak up.


EDIT:

@OP: For the sack of clarity and for the ease of CCP to gain an understanding of what the forum rage is about please don't open more threads. This just diverts from the main thread and makes responding and stating what our grievance is much harder. Thank you.


struggling to make the jump from live event ccp didnt have to do and dint make you come to over to the holocaust, i know im clearly not as interlectual as you sir, maybe you could help me make the jump
Scherezad
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#64 - 2013-11-10 19:25:07 UTC
An apology or gift to those who participated (on all sides) will keep within theme of the event, and will negatively impact no one, and positively impact the 2000 or so players who participated.

Reverting the server to 2 or 3 days ago will disrupt logistics, planning, reverse fleet actions and sov exchanges, and negatively impact everyone in the game, save those who participated or suffered negatively over the time spanned between then and now.

Reverting is a bad answer, in my opinion. EVE is about accepting and dealing with the consequences of your actions. This includes CCP accepting and dealing with the consequences of their actions, too. No reversion.
epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#65 - 2013-11-10 19:32:40 UTC  |  Edited by: epicurus ataraxia
Asbjrn wrote:
Edie Riggs wrote:
Maximus Aerelius wrote:
I personally do not think that a rollback is in order. This would undoubtedly affect so many more people than the 2-3000 characters andif they didn't do it after Incarna they won#t do it for this.

To the Null Sec Bloc or those battering the "Carebears" please don't insult us. We are paying customers with legitimate concerns and feel that we have the right to voice them on whatever means we can in order to be heard above the chest beating of the people who so marvellously executed the massacre that was "like shooting fish in a barrel."

Now for those that would like see how Null Bloc players deal with a similar event go here threadnaught of rage and see just how many kicked off when this kind of thing happens to them.

Please try to understand what the actual RL concerns are that people are voicing and not just spout venom and insults on the forums, this is aimed every play style in EVE, as if it has\did\will happen to you you'd like to think that community would support open and honest communication and not just try to smack down anyone that try to raise their voice to complain.

Now something to think about below:

Pastor Niemoller wrote:
They came for the communists, but I wasn’t a communist – so I didn’t object;
They came for the socialists, but I wasn’t a socialist – so I didn’t object;
They came for the trade union leaders, but I wasn’t a trade union leader – so I didn’t object;
They came for the Jews, but I wasn’t a Jew – so I didn’t object;
Then they came for me – and there was no one left to object

And by that time there was no one left to speak up.


EDIT:

@OP: For the sack of clarity and for the ease of CCP to gain an understanding of what the forum rage is about please don't open more threads. This just diverts from the main thread and makes responding and stating what our grievance is much harder. Thank you.


OH GOD, A FESH FOUNTAIN OF TEARS!

You are bringing RL concerns to a video game. This is too much.
You guys just do not understand eve at all.

Your concerns are that the devs are not giving preferential treatment to high sec players, or to people who want to play the game a certain way. You come around and cry when people play the game in ways you do not like, and yet do so without breaking rules. And then, you try to inject a quote aboutt he holocaust into this. Read some of the things I have posted, then go watch fight club.

Our equivalent to this event would be our anual Jita burn. We basically show up and **** on every freighter we can find.

Consider this before trying to compare our events to yours.

Cant Wait til burn jita Lol the tears inbox wil be full bountys posted Pirate


Lol cheapskate
Spent your pocketmoney on a trading alt bounty?Lol

This is a thread that just keeps giving.

Starting to realise who is collecting tearz here?

There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE

epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#66 - 2013-11-10 19:37:04 UTC
Scherezad wrote:
An apology or gift to those who participated (on all sides) will keep within theme of the event, and will negatively impact no one, and positively impact the 2000 or so players who participated.

Reverting the server to 2 or 3 days ago will disrupt logistics, planning, reverse fleet actions and sov exchanges, and negatively impact everyone in the game, save those who participated or suffered negatively over the time spanned between then and now.

Reverting is a bad answer, in my opinion. EVE is about accepting and dealing with the consequences of your actions. This includes CCP accepting and dealing with the consequences of their actions, too. No reversion.


Very good point.


There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE

Trii Seo
Goonswarm Federation
#67 - 2013-11-10 19:41:21 UTC
There is a big difference between the Z9PP incident and this. Z9PP was an engineer's mistake that stopped an ongoing battle dead in its tracks.

Well tell us what alt to put money on then :D Maybe it was the dual-tanked rail megathron we shot up in 8V-?

Proud pilot of the Imperium

Arek'Jaalan: Heliograph

Elfi Wolfe
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#68 - 2013-11-10 19:51:09 UTC
I would say no roll back, no restoration.

Yes I lost a battleship. It was a disaster of a operation.

But war is hell. And that empire fleet disaster is now part of history.

"Please point to the place on the doll where the carebear touched you."

Trii Seo
Goonswarm Federation
#69 - 2013-11-10 20:01:48 UTC
Elfi Wolfe wrote:
I would say no roll back, no restoration.

Yes I lost a battleship. It was a disaster of a operation.

But war is hell. And that empire fleet disaster is now part of history.


That person understands it.

0.0 pilots lose ships to command clusterfucks all the time. Part of life, deal with it - if you're lucky enough to be in alliance that has an SRP file a reimbursement claim and import a replacement ship. Sure it'd be cool if CCP gave us something shiney for participating, like a complimentary package of drugs from Serpentis but hey - being there in the event alone was worth it.

Proud pilot of the Imperium

Arek'Jaalan: Heliograph

KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#70 - 2013-11-10 20:08:08 UTC
Im not going to read this entire thread, but the OP was briliant!


Felt like I was reading a Monty Python script!

BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty.

epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#71 - 2013-11-10 20:16:29 UTC
KuroVolt wrote:
Im not going to read this entire thread, but the OP was briliant!


Felt like I was reading a Monty Python script!


Quote:
Only an IQ of 50 would be required to,understand this



And They marched in with their banners flying to their doomBig smile

There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE

Scherezad
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#72 - 2013-11-10 20:20:14 UTC
Elfi Wolfe wrote:
I would say no roll back, no restoration.

Yes I lost a battleship. It was a disaster of a operation.

But war is hell. And that empire fleet disaster is now part of history.

+1

The important thing's not
How you fly.
More telling to see
How you die.

o7 CONCORD
KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#73 - 2013-11-10 20:46:25 UTC
epicurus ataraxia wrote:
KuroVolt wrote:
Im not going to read this entire thread, but the OP was briliant!


Felt like I was reading a Monty Python script!


Quote:
Only an IQ of 50 would be required to,understand this



And They marched in with their banners flying to their doomBig smile


You are not very good at this forum thing, are you?

BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty.

epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#74 - 2013-11-10 20:55:03 UTC  |  Edited by: epicurus ataraxia
KuroVolt wrote:
epicurus ataraxia wrote:
KuroVolt wrote:
Im not going to read this entire thread, but the OP was briliant!


Felt like I was reading a Monty Python script!


Quote:
Only an IQ of 50 would be required to,understand this



And They marched in with their banners flying to their doomBig smile


You are not very good at this forum thing, are you?


Well when the OP states that you would need to have the IQ of a vegetable not to understand and then they pile in to prove just that, it is hard not to find it amusingLol.

There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE

KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#75 - 2013-11-10 21:02:40 UTC
epicurus ataraxia wrote:
KuroVolt wrote:
epicurus ataraxia wrote:
KuroVolt wrote:
Im not going to read this entire thread, but the OP was briliant!


Felt like I was reading a Monty Python script!


Quote:
Only an IQ of 50 would be required to,understand this



And They marched in with their banners flying to their doomBig smile


You are not very good at this forum thing, are you?


Well when the OP states that you would need to have the IQ of a vegetable not to understand and then they pile in to prove just that, it is hard not to find it amusingLol.


So basically what you are saying is *if you disagree with my opinion, you are wrong!*.

Does that not seem a bit...biased to you?

The reason people are not giving your suggestion alot of thought is because the premise sounds somewhat absurd to most of us.

BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty.

epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#76 - 2013-11-10 21:17:21 UTC  |  Edited by: epicurus ataraxia
Well when the OP states that you would need to have the IQ of a vegetable not to understand and then they pile in to prove just that, it is hard not to find it amusingLol.[/quote]

So basically what you are saying is *if you disagree with my opinion, you are wrong!*.

Does that not seem a bit...biased to you?

The reason people are not giving your suggestion alot of thought is because the premise sounds somewhat absurd to most of us.[/quote]


I have the Deepest respect for CVA and I will never say anything to cause offence to a member. And I see completely what You say regarding the premise.

This post was a combination of a means to have a sensible discussion to encourage CCP to come clean and find a way forward, No way could it be used without modification but intended to get people to find a reasonable solution that made people good, and if there had been an internal issue, could have been offered by CCP before coming to an acceptable compromise thereby saving face.
It was also intended to bring out the morons and Idiots to prove which was which once and for all.

It succeeded beyond belief in the latter role.

There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE

Scherezad
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#77 - 2013-11-10 21:28:37 UTC
Suggestion: Let CCP deal with this on their own. They don't need a player to help them "come clean." They also don't need to start that discussion when they're off for the weekend.

Suggestion: In the future, perhaps try avoiding a mixture of "Searching for reasonable discussion" and "Baiting trolls" in your posts. All this will do is improve your mastery in baiting. Unless you're looking for the title, of course.
epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#78 - 2013-11-10 21:30:31 UTC  |  Edited by: epicurus ataraxia
Scherezad wrote:
Suggestion: Let CCP deal with this on their own. They don't need a player to help them "come clean." They also don't need to start that discussion when they're off for the weekend.

Suggestion: In the future, perhaps try avoiding a mixture of "Searching for reasonable discussion" and "Baiting trolls" in your posts. All this will do is improve your mastery in baiting. Unless you're looking for the title, of course.


Big smileCool

Good, like that.

I Know but when they pile in it's so hard not to,So tempting a target.They don't even realise they have been Ganked. But you're right, no point, It's just too easy.

There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE

dark dreamur
Guild of Independent Pilots
DammFam
#79 - 2013-11-10 21:54:10 UTC
epicurus ataraxia wrote:
KuroVolt wrote:
epicurus ataraxia wrote:
KuroVolt wrote:
Im not going to read this entire thread, but the OP was briliant!


Felt like I was reading a Monty Python script!


Quote:
Only an IQ of 50 would be required to,understand this



And They marched in with their banners flying to their doomBig smile


You are not very good at this forum thing, are you?


Well when the OP states that you would need to have the IQ of a vegetable not to understand and then they pile in to prove just that, it is hard not to find it amusingLol.


I think mybe your confusing not understanding with not agreeing, a common "the world revolves around me" mistake made by high sec mission runners
Trii Seo
Goonswarm Federation
#80 - 2013-11-10 21:58:43 UTC
I think having a blast and laughing at people not understanding the basic principles of EVE doesn't count as being ganked. Unless you intended to jam our comms by causing fits of breathless laughter.

You're bad. You should feel bad.

Also, I agree that both sides should get something that commemorates the event. "I went to 8V- and all I got was this lousy killmail" t-shirts for everyone!

Proud pilot of the Imperium

Arek'Jaalan: Heliograph