Live Events Discussion

I'll use this to clear up a misconception. Most people I talked to didn't mind dying, they noticed the destination was nullsec, they knew they were going to die. End

What they did expect was some form of event happening, some sign there was an event actor around. This was not the case, the event actor jumped himself from one of the staging systems directly into the event system. The rest had to catch up, passing trough a bottleneck of nullsec gatecamps, inexperienced people vs experienced gatecampers. If the event actor had travelled with them, it would be much more accepted to die.

The main gripe of most folks who complain is about how the event was run, not the fact they died (yes they complain about the death, but not as the dying itself, but rather that it was 'meaningless') Also keep in mind, most players actually never even reached the lowsec/nullsec camps before the event was called over (despite the fact these travelling players left the stagingsystem at about the same time as the actors, but wanted to stay together, and thereby got caught up in TiDi)

PS: been part of older live events going into low, and yes yes, the highsec folk tend to die horribly, but they usually were happy about it as it was part of an event. They saw the Nation carrier raiding a planet, or notice how event actors commented as pirates enganged them. That's what they came for, an event, then they died, and it was good because they died being part of that event.

Edit: I made a blogpost about the event seen from an IC viewpoint as it's sorely lacking (nuff OOC talk however, wich is needed), it doesn't realy paint a positive view either that way :
Capsuleers respond en masse to Call to Arms, Navies fail to provide assistance!
The blogpost I created after talking to dozens of folks to make sure I didn't made any large mistakes as I couldn't be present.

More than a few people have said in the nearby threadnought that after several hours of travel through 10% TiDi only to find that the event's over, a bubbled alpha gate camp meant a nice, quick trip back to high sec.

I was in that fleet. Pretty sure the FC said "everyone except logi jump". When I queried in LogiChat the LC said jump. Before I was aware of what awaited us I saw the FC (on my watchlist) was taking heavy fire. I just about had time to lockup the cap chain and the FC and engage modules before I was alpha'd off the field.

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I was expecting to lose the ship but hoped I could at least cause somebody to last a bit longer. If I wasn't logi I might have briefly considered turning around.

In my fleet Serge was FC and his ship was popped faster than he could launch a single charge of fireworks. I see logis in null/low is complete waste of time and I shouldn't use basi as event ship.... Correction: shouldn't use any ship because CCP's events don't seem to worth attention.

I would just like to clarify a misunderstanding for the record, the event NPC FC in ihal (formerly Sarum Prime) did not teleport himself directly from ihal to MROC past the gate camps, he flew the entire way with us, I got behind a system or two but caught back up when we got up to the camp. Also, he was flying in a HIC and myself a T1 cruiser. Now it is possible I could have been able to keep up with him because the warp speeds are similar, of this I don't know. I do know most people were bringing battleships and tbh thats a poor choice for an event like this.

ooohh can we round it to 2 days and call it plural?! Pretty pleaseeeeeee

A little quote from an alliance mate of mine who actually joined the live event.

At least one wing in our fleet should have stealth bombers, we would just bomb the sh!t out of the sniping blob on the gate, also, no one should listen to CCP actor FCing people around. Including me.

This is one of the points i am trying to hammer home to the more experienced players. Alot of these newer player simply arn't experienced enough through no fault of their own. They are 3-6 months old. Most of us were miners when we were at that level 5+ years ago. So they were lead into what appears to be a CCP trap. People keep harping on that they should have know. All that has happened is they have ether been put off ever going in a sec under 0.5 or quit their accounts. This achieved nothing for such pilots.

My fleet, most of whom were already in Sarum about 2 to 3 hours before the event was due to start, did not even make it out of hisec.

Why ? Partly because we had been told to ignore the twitter announcement as likely a hack and wait till CCP announced something in game. Secondly becasue our FC had put together a structured fleet with good logi support and had no intention of letting tot get spread across 24 systems so we stayed together.

No-one died. Nor would anyone have cared. You lose ships all the time in losec and wormholes (unlike null residents who carebear it up till there alliance decides to have a fleet fight then all blob up and get there ships reimbursed afterwards).