Live Events Discussion

wow,

"miners and industrialists build weapons and ships
those weapons and ships are used to create content
therefore miners and industrialists do not create content"

tell you what, since everyone around here hates mining manufacturing and considers this game only pvp, how about CCP just make it an instanced game? I see no difference from your barking arguments

your mistake and all the null and low bloc is mistaking this game for all pvp (fighting), when it becomes that way then it is no longer a sandbox, a sandbox does not cater to one type of player alone it gives you the freedom to do anything you want, CCP limits that freedom when it makes the game revolve around one thing, if I want challenging pvp I don't play eve, I play cs, LoL and dota, remove the economic conflict and marketing for me and this game is nothing but a bad pvp (again combat side) game.

You disregard and forget that all kinds of players play eve, if someone doesn't want to join null sec he will not join null sec, get it through your thick head, when CCP says **** that then we leave, it's simple, there's no function no algorithms here, being a carebear is just a way to play the game, either because you want to or because you can't do to certain situations.

Also your myth is not busted at all, it was a blob that won the fight 500 people gatecamped vs a bunch of noobs, we were maybe 1500 in total numbers but the ones that actually got to the event in time and got through and the way we went in the gate was not a blob at all far from it, half the people didn't get there and in the end systems there were less <400 of us and the ones that did died going through the gate to guess what? a blob.

I would just like to state for the record that the route from Sarum Prime to the destination system was NOT 40 ******* jumps. It was 23 to ihal and 5 more to the destination...if my math is correct hat is 28 bloody jumps NOT 40. Quit ******* exagerating, honestly that is a prime example of idiocy at its best. i arrived in Sarum Prime 20 minutes early, system filled and went into tidi. When I read the tweet I immediately moved out, didnt wait for conformation and as a result traveled 23 jumps where only 4 systems were TiDi rest were plain jane travel. I followed FC orders, I joined CCP's fleet, I brought an appropriate ship, and this amazing thing happened. I survived long enough to reach the facility and get some shots on it before i died.

Some people were bringing ******* battleships, shuttles, and noobs ships as if they were just going to innocently watch the event in hostile space. Common sense says if your destination is null sec that there WILL be bubbles. Sooo dont bring a ******* battleship that is slow and cant burn out of them, bring a cruiser with MWD. It doesnt take rocket science here. As for information available...live events arent supposed to be CCP guiding you 100% of the way. Live events is a situation where CCP introduces a catalyst situation, an event that kicks off some conflict (be it pve, pvp, or both) and then allows the players to mold the event and its outcome.

I think CCP did their job here, they got the fleets together, they had a goal...reach the research facility, they disclosed the fact that we WOULD be going into hostile space...null sec, they gave commands in each phase (like saying there is a massive bubbled camp on the other side of this gate, jump through and burn out of bubbles and warp.) You want CCP to bridge you from high sec to destination system bypassing any threats just so you can bash a facility in under 20 minutes? Seriously mate, you need to find another game.

Just to clarify on this fact 2005 did not have NEARLY as many players attending these events as there are now. This presents a problem when 4-5000 people want to run an event in 2 systems. You didnt get to the event before it was declared finished...I was in luminere before it started, server restarted and when i logged in i couldnt get in the system, as a result I couldnt do that event even though I was there on time. However, I will tell you what I didn't do, come ranting on the forums about how unfair and a disadvantage it was. I accepted the fact I could not run the event and moved on.

The amount of wailing and gnashing of teeth over this event is just a prime example of how a lot of player who play this game anymore expect CCP to solve their issues for them rather then empowering themselves to do it.

The eveonline website is not a requirement to participate in the event either, but if you want information and you want to stay on top of **** you browse there and read...just like twitter.

We all knew it was going to be in or near Utopia in Curse because of the announcement. We also knew when many hours in advance.

A simple inspection of the in game map would have revealed that Senday is only 2 jumps from ihal in hi sec and along with Doril, Utopia, Jorund, Litom and Hemin all sport NPC stations with a good local market. Hemin and Litom also have cloning facilities and as such there probably isn't another null sec area quite so user friendly in all of Eve and was probably chosen because of this. The final system R-MOC has no stations and this is potentially perfect for an all out brawl.

It is beyond me that with all this information at hand folks still chose to form up in hi sec and move in a completely inappropriate fleet size to a few different staging systems,suffering TDI all the way. And also monitoring Twitter for updates?? before trying to enter Curse in a such massive and attractive blob? Safety in numbers perhaps? in all honesty i am really surprised that we didn't see SC hot drops.

If you have cussed at CCP for a poor event here then shame on you for being a complete mindless lemming and expecting support for your insane expectations from anyone who actually knows what Eve is. CCP are not FC's or military genius's and if you've ever attended any of there other events or tests you would know this. They give us the toys to have a good time and how we use them is up to us.

Thanks CCP for trying and don't let the insane posts in this thread put you off doing it again. We need more of these.

I just want to thank CCP, with their recent live event, for helping me realize that this game no longer has anything left for me. My only complaint is that this "live event" was way to elaborate. You could have simply sent me an email telling me to " **** off " and I assure you I would have gotten the hint. Thanks again and have another shot on me.

So, people should be as dumb as you are and pay for such shoddy quality game time every day?

Nope, people have better things to do than perma-TiDi, headless directions and F1 hotkey driven blobbing.

There's a common thread here from a few people (I'm not going to single anyone out with a quote) that all the hisec players who joined the event needed to read, research, and play more so that they could make the event more entertaining for themselves.

If you're saying that to play EVE, you need to make sure it is your first and only hobby, so much so that you'll have to do forum and intel research just to make it to a live event before it's over, you've been in null too long. Plenty of us play EVE once or twice a week for a few hours because we have other things to do. When CCP makes an event and invites people in, they can't believe their luck that they'll get to do something. When they say they're leading them into nullsec, they're ecstatic that they're finally going to get to go into null and see what it's like.

When CCP has an ADD moment and just forgets about leading the fleet, and they essentially lose their ships in one shot to an orchestrated gate camp after hours of just trying to get from gate to gate, at best, they're going to be utterly disappointed and wonder what the point of nullsec play actually is. At worst, they're going to figure that is the endgame and be done with EVE altogether.

I mean, if you didn't want those people playing, then that's fine. But those people have a right to be absolutely disgusted with CCP's handling of the event and its aftermath, and I can't really blame them if they just write off nullsec as a boring, time-dilated mess rather than the barren desert that it usually is.

Either way, I can't imagine that pissing off a significant portion of their subscription holders was what CCP wanted to do with this event and the blame for it falls squarely on their shoulders. They were the ones who organized the fleet, they were the ones with the NPC FCs, they were the ones who are ultimately to blame when the fleet had a massive logistics deficiency. Really, the logistics are what everyone is complaining about. They understood that they were flying into a place they would almost certainly lose their ship in, they just didn't figure CCP would make sure they took hours to never reach the target, and then that they would mostly lose their ships in the kinds of gate camps they could just as easily have flown into themselves on a Thursday night if they'd really felt like it.

Can you really ask the people who were there to learn more about the game so that it's more fun next time? Why on Earth would anyone who just experienced nullsec for the first time that way ever bother? If anything, CCP just exacerbated the problem they have where people who aren't into nonstop FFA PVP are staying in hisec or finding more versatile games to play.

CCP still hasn't given an apology yet for all of this.

I know many newbies who started EVE recently quitted due to the result of this event.

What the solution might be is to all gather up and protest like people did when they were not happy with Incarna. Remember by slowing down the servers deliberately to protest about it?