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Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
#21 - 2013-11-09 22:54:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Jandice Ymladris
epicurus ataraxia wrote:
the only question I have is if the reports of capsuleers being instructed to enter the gate camped systems, almost as if they had been betrayed rather than incompetence, It appears there were some in authority who wished to see the capsuleers sacrificed; And others reporting that their flight commanders abandoned them once they had been delivered for slaughter.


Good questions this, and I can answer m with knowledge. I used to live in Curse, and the target system for the event there meant you would be passing several gatecamps because it were bottlenecks. Curse isn't a nullsec monobloc, but due to it's NPC nature + history, it contains alot of *wardlord* corps/alliances holding a system/timezone slot, so fighting & camping gates is daily bread.

Doril is notorious for this. Usually you'd ask in your intelchannel *Who's camping Doril now?* and hope it were friendlies. So in short, the capsuleers lead into the gatecamps was not of malicious intent, but rather incompetence. It didn't help that curse was a warzone (Nullsec had fleets ready for defense, they got deployed against the highsec fleet)

The fleet commanders abandoning them is more a result of frustation, you finally managed to get your fleet in some shape out the highsec TiDi, only to get slaughtered in nullsec. On top of it, several nullblocs had spies in the fleets, being able to tell the camps who to take down first (FC's). So to the inexperienced it might look like the FC abandoned them

Edit: link to the IC report of the live event Posting again as it's a new page, so more visible to people reading the thread and want to know more about the event itself.

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epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#22 - 2013-11-09 23:19:49 UTC
Jandice Ymladris wrote:
epicurus ataraxia wrote:
the only question I have is if the reports of capsuleers being instructed to enter the gate camped systems, almost as if they had been betrayed rather than incompetence, It appears there were some in authority who wished to see the capsuleers sacrificed; And others reporting that their flight commanders abandoned them once they had been delivered for slaughter.


Good questions this, and I can answer m with knowledge. I used to live in Curse, and the target system for the event there meant you would be passing several gatecamps because it were bottlenecks. Curse isn't a nullsec monobloc, but due to it's NPC nature + history, it contains alot of *wardlord* corps/alliances holding a system/timezone slot, so fighting & camping gates is daily bread.

Doril is notorious for this. Usually you'd ask in your intelchannel *Who's camping Doril now?* and hope it were friendlies. So in short, the capsuleers lead into the gatecamps was not of malicious intent, but rather incompetence. It didn't help that curse was a warzone (Nullsec had fleets ready for defense, they got deployed against the highsec fleet)

The fleet commanders abandoning them is more a result of frustation, you finally managed to get your fleet in some shape out the highsec TiDi, only to get slaughtered in nullsec. On top of it, several nullblocs had spies in the fleets, being able to tell the camps who to take down first (FC's). So to the inexperienced it might look like the FC abandoned them

Edit: link to the IC report of the live event Posting again as it's a new page, so more visible to people reading the thread and want to know more about the event itself.

Thank you for your reply, while one cannot truly say that the actions of these High Fleet Naval commanders being incompetent rather than treasonous is a relief, It lets all new Eve citizens sleep a little better.
We hope that these commanders however will be replaced with those who have some knowledge of the wars in EvE and basic stellar cartography.
Those responsible for so many Tragic deaths deserve to be forced to build a monument at Doril in Memorial to those brave souls who perished to uphold the Freedom we all love.

Many of us who only survived only due to the incompetence in the preparation of the transit routes and spent our time in 'in between space' Unable to help are wracked with survivor guilt. We would feel vindicated at least in part Should we know they will not be forgotten. Even though their lives were spent in vain.

Thank you for your reporting that must have occurred at great personal risk.

There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE
Trii Seo
Goonswarm Federation
#23 - 2013-11-09 23:27:52 UTC
epicurus ataraxia wrote:
Very nicely done and in a nice game lore/news style, Glad you were able to find out so much.
the only question I have is if the reports of capsuleers being instructed to enter the gate camped systems, almost as if they had been betrayed rather than incompetence, It appears there were some in authority who wished to see the capsuleers sacrificed; And others reporting that their flight commanders abandoned.


Pipe systems are notorious for camps and I do believe the Syndicate force went down a pipe. That said, 8V- is one of those systems on its own, and Syndicate lies very close to CFC regions. Some Goons based out of Syndicate and we decided we were close (one bridge away) enough to drop by and join in the fun.

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