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Probably the WORST event I've wasted my time on in my 10 years of EVE ...

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Octoven
Stellar Production
#761 - 2013-11-09 19:00:55 UTC
Killerjock wrote:

I did not know the trap was set - as someone mentioned I don't remember where the staging systems are and I'm mostly ignorant of the geography of nullsec. It is something that I never had to concern myself with.


Knowing where you are going is key to ANY event not just this one...actually that is a real life concept. If you couldnt be bothered to learn what is where, what do you want CCP to do about it?

I was not expecting such a gankfest, although it did not surprise me once I realized it was there. I had not seen ALL the information on the community site - I actually thought all info would come together, but I'm not mentioning that because THAT was my fault.

Killerjock wrote:

But to tell people to go to meves and later to stacmon and later to 8V-SJJ.... that wasn't my decision.


Indeed you made the choice to follow along, you could have easily backed out if you were indeed as ignorant of the details as you claim to have been.

Killerjock wrote:

To tell people at the latest possible time where they would go wasn't my decision.


This is part of events...if you have ever done a mass test on sisi you would be aware of this. You were given 10-20 minute notice and again could have said **** you im not participating in an event at the last minute. Yet you did not.

Killerjock wrote:

To provide no meaning of fast transportation - while knowing the nullsec alliances DO have them, that wasn't my decision.
My decision was to follow along to see if I cold see anything unusual or pretty before I got killed. As mentioned, I don't icare about the ship or my pod - thoguh i got that home (barely). To lose two hours like this is just annoying.


Fast transportation was NEVER intended to be the way to get there. It was a journey to get there, you opposition you would face was kind of the point of it. Empires vs Pirates, we infiltrate their space and take down a facility...this means fighting your way through opposing forces to reach your goal...something that the majority of people STILL after the event is over fail to understand. It was a pvp event with pve goals. Plus your decision here on fast transport is somewhat irrelevant because you had the choice to either fight for the pirates or fight for empires. Instead of taking advantage of the fact null sec had home field advantage on movement you whine about it. Don't blame CCP you made the wrong choice.

Killerjock wrote:

I followed along convinced that I would die horribly in an event. In fact I died horribly at a losec gatecamp - and as I said many pages ago, I can do that myself without tidi, 2000 players, and CCP intervention.


If you knew in advance you would die horribly and knew you could do it without hours of tidi and other people...why in the **** did you still go? Im sorry but I cant respect someone who knows 100% they will lose, still goes with it anyway, loses, and then crys about it. Grow the **** up and be adult enough to admit defeat...move on.
Luca Lure
Obertura
#762 - 2013-11-09 19:16:14 UTC
CCP Goliath wrote:
Carnip wrote:
CCP Goliath wrote:
Just dropping in to say thanks for giving us this feedback. We haven't had time to go through it all yet, but we will be doing so as a team and taking a lot of points on board to shape our work in the future. We will also be explaining some things to clear up some misunderstandings we have been noticing. Thanks for your time and patience.


"Misunderstandings we have been noticing"??

Is it the same arrogant CCP that was pre-Incarna? You guys do realize that you can't afford that, with flat userbase for last several years and no big feature coming in Rubicon?



You misunderstood my intent. I wanted to make the posters in this thread aware that we are not ignoring what they're saying, we just haven't gotten around to taking it all in yet. From what I have been reading so far, there are a lot of extremely valid criticisms and suggestions for positive turnarounds in the future. There is also a lot of conjecture and assumption based on a lack of information, which we hope to remedy by being transparent and providing the information. There's nothing arrogant about that, it was a genuine statement.


"It sad, so sad, it's a sad sad situation. Sorry seems to be the hardest word." - Elton John

It didn't take me too long to reed up through 13 pages, to get to the core of the problem. After that, I can conclude. Nullsec carebears had a good time and everybody else was annoyed by the way CCP communicated. Well, then the first comment should be "sorry, we ****** it up for a lot of people and we will look at ways to make sure we do it better next time.". Then te discussion would be over.

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The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.
Shock Fist
Blank-Space
Northern Coalition.
#763 - 2013-11-09 19:38:11 UTC
Luca Lure wrote:
CCP Goliath wrote:
Carnip wrote:
CCP Goliath wrote:
Just dropping in to say thanks for giving us this feedback. We haven't had time to go through it all yet, but we will be doing so as a team and taking a lot of points on board to shape our work in the future. We will also be explaining some things to clear up some misunderstandings we have been noticing. Thanks for your time and patience.


"Misunderstandings we have been noticing"??

Is it the same arrogant CCP that was pre-Incarna? You guys do realize that you can't afford that, with flat userbase for last several years and no big feature coming in Rubicon?



You misunderstood my intent. I wanted to make the posters in this thread aware that we are not ignoring what they're saying, we just haven't gotten around to taking it all in yet. From what I have been reading so far, there are a lot of extremely valid criticisms and suggestions for positive turnarounds in the future. There is also a lot of conjecture and assumption based on a lack of information, which we hope to remedy by being transparent and providing the information. There's nothing arrogant about that, it was a genuine statement.


"It sad, so sad, it's a sad sad situation. Sorry seems to be the hardest word." - Elton John

It didn't take me too long to reed up through 13 pages, to get to the core of the problem. After that, I can conclude. Nullsec carebears had a good time and everybody else was annoyed by the way CCP communicated. Well, then the first comment should be "sorry, we ****** it up for a lot of people and we will look at ways to make sure we do it better next time.". Then te discussion would be over.


Read* The* I quoted your entire post for those two misspelled words. Yup.
Asbjrn
The Executives
#764 - 2013-11-09 19:39:45 UTC
Shock Fist wrote:
Luca Lure wrote:
CCP Goliath wrote:
Carnip wrote:
CCP Goliath wrote:
Just dropping in to say thanks for giving us this feedback. We haven't had time to go through it all yet, but we will be doing so as a team and taking a lot of points on board to shape our work in the future. We will also be explaining some things to clear up some misunderstandings we have been noticing. Thanks for your time and patience.


"Misunderstandings we have been noticing"??

Is it the same arrogant CCP that was pre-Incarna? You guys do realize that you can't afford that, with flat userbase for last several years and no big feature coming in Rubicon?



You misunderstood my intent. I wanted to make the posters in this thread aware that we are not ignoring what they're saying, we just haven't gotten around to taking it all in yet. From what I have been reading so far, there are a lot of extremely valid criticisms and suggestions for positive turnarounds in the future. There is also a lot of conjecture and assumption based on a lack of information, which we hope to remedy by being transparent and providing the information. There's nothing arrogant about that, it was a genuine statement.


"It sad, so sad, it's a sad sad situation. Sorry seems to be the hardest word." - Elton John

It didn't take me too long to reed up through 13 pages, to get to the core of the problem. After that, I can conclude. Nullsec carebears had a good time and everybody else was annoyed by the way CCP communicated. Well, then the first comment should be "sorry, we ****** it up for a lot of people and we will look at ways to make sure we do it better next time.". Then te discussion would be over.


Read* The* I quoted your entire post for those two misspelled words. Yup.


THE NERVE!!EvilEvil
Shock Fist
Blank-Space
Northern Coalition.
#765 - 2013-11-09 19:40:29 UTC
Asbjrn wrote:


THE NERVE!!EvilEvil


<3 <3 <3 <3 <3
Eisenhornx
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#766 - 2013-11-09 19:44:03 UTC
Shock Fist wrote:
Asbjrn wrote:


THE NERVE!!EvilEvil


<3 <3 <3 <3 <3


Why the use of so many butts?
Asbjrn
The Executives
#767 - 2013-11-09 19:44:53 UTC
Eisenhornx wrote:
Shock Fist wrote:
Asbjrn wrote:


THE NERVE!!EvilEvil


<3 <3 <3 <3 <3


Why the use of so many butts?


Its hearts feel the love man
Shock Fist
Blank-Space
Northern Coalition.
#768 - 2013-11-09 19:45:56 UTC
Eisenhornx wrote:
Shock Fist wrote:
Asbjrn wrote:


THE NERVE!!EvilEvil


<3 <3 <3 <3 <3


Why the use of so many butts?


"In the jungle, the mighty jungle, the lion sleeps toniiiiight"
Asbjrn
The Executives
#769 - 2013-11-09 19:50:40 UTC
Shock Fist wrote:
Eisenhornx wrote:
Shock Fist wrote:
Asbjrn wrote:


THE NERVE!!EvilEvil


<3 <3 <3 <3 <3


Why the use of so many butts?


"In the jungle, the mighty jungle, the lion sleeps toniiiiight"


In the jungle The quiet jungle The lions sleep tonight
Shock Fist
Blank-Space
Northern Coalition.
#770 - 2013-11-09 19:52:47 UTC
Near the Village, the peaceful Village, the Lion sleeps toniiiiight
Asbjrn
The Executives
#771 - 2013-11-09 19:54:04 UTC
Hush my darling,
don't fear my darling,
the lions sleeps tonight
Shock Fist
Blank-Space
Northern Coalition.
#772 - 2013-11-09 19:55:24 UTC
Hush my darling, don't fear my darling, the lions sleeps tonight
Eisenhornx
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#773 - 2013-11-09 19:56:01 UTC
You guys are getting off topic a bit.
Asbjrn
The Executives
#774 - 2013-11-09 19:56:58 UTC
Eisenhornx
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#775 - 2013-11-09 19:58:47 UTC
Asbjrn wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O0k7e5ApFU


so uncool
Shock Fist
Blank-Space
Northern Coalition.
#776 - 2013-11-09 20:04:08 UTC
Eisenhornx wrote:
Asbjrn wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O0k7e5ApFU


so uncool


Irony much?
Luca Lure
Obertura
#777 - 2013-11-09 20:06:52 UTC
Eisenhornx wrote:
Shock Fist wrote:
Asbjrn wrote:


THE NERVE!!EvilEvil


<3 <3 <3 <3 <3


Why the use of so many butts?


Because he shock fists so many butts.

――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――

The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.
Shock Fist
Blank-Space
Northern Coalition.
#778 - 2013-11-09 20:08:18 UTC
Luca Lure wrote:
Eisenhornx wrote:
Shock Fist wrote:
Asbjrn wrote:


THE NERVE!!EvilEvil


<3 <3 <3 <3 <3


Why the use of so many butts?


Because he shock fists so many butts.


*Budum Tiss*
Alice Ituin
Doomheim
#779 - 2013-11-09 20:19:16 UTC
Not sure what CCP intended with this live event.
I mean if you assemble a fleet of random highsec players who expect some sort of storyline live event thingy and then let them jump into a nullsec alliance gatecamp it's pretty obvious what the outcome will be.
The only thing this event managed to achieve is scaring off more players from ever entering low/nullsec and pimping some nullbear's killboards.
Asbjrn
The Executives
#780 - 2013-11-09 20:20:45 UTC
Eisenhornx wrote:
Asbjrn wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O0k7e5ApFU


so uncool

http://i.imgur.com/R8tFL.jpg