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Probably the WORST event I've wasted my time on in my 10 years of EVE ...

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Shock Fist
Blank-Space
Northern Coalition.
#741 - 2013-11-09 18:23:21 UTC
Have I mentioned :popcorn: ?
Trii Seo
Goonswarm Federation
#742 - 2013-11-09 18:24:43 UTC
There was RP on the empire side, it just probably got drowned in spam.

That said, awaiting to see the magical way this event could've been made better. For us it was a blast so how could it be more awesome?

Proud pilot of the Imperium

Arek'Jaalan: Heliograph

Asbjrn
The Executives
#743 - 2013-11-09 18:26:37 UTC
Trii Seo wrote:
There was RP on the empire side, it just probably got drowned in spam.

That said, awaiting to see the magical way this event could've been made better. For us it was a blast so how could it be more awesome?


if we had more to Blow up it vould have been better
Shock Fist
Blank-Space
Northern Coalition.
#744 - 2013-11-09 18:29:12 UTC
Quite frankly Im pleased that we finally get some attention. Thank you CCP <3
Eisenhornx
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#745 - 2013-11-09 18:32:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Eisenhornx
Trii Seo wrote:
There was RP on the empire side, it just probably got drowned in spam.

That said, awaiting to see the magical way this event could've been made better. For us it was a blast so how could it be more awesome?


I am sorry I tend to find it hard to dumb down things enough for some people to understand.
What I was trying to say in an answer to your question was that the "Live Event" should have had even NPC's on both Empire and Pirate factions, and the event was held in an area where both null and empire can meet on the same footings, (this would be lowsec.) things would have ended much different than they did. But this alternative would have you "ebil piwates" crying so i guess there is no winning.

And for the record I am not a "carebear" I am in hisec because I do not have the luxury of time it requires to be in null.
Shock Fist
Blank-Space
Northern Coalition.
#746 - 2013-11-09 18:33:40 UTC
Eisenhornx wrote:
Trii Seo wrote:
There was RP on the empire side, it just probably got drowned in spam.

That said, awaiting to see the magical way this event could've been made better. For us it was a blast so how could it be more awesome?


I am sorry I tend to find it hard to dumb down things enough for some people to understand.
What I was trying to say in an answer to your question was that the "Live Event" should have had even NPC's on both Empire and Pirate factions, and the event was held in an area where both null and empire can meet on the same footings, (this would be lowsec.) things would have ended much different than they did. But this alternative would have you "ebil piwates" crying so i guess there is no winning.


Sorry, I couldn't hear what you were saying from up there. Could you step down from your high horse so the rest of us mortals can converse with you?
Eisenhornx
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#747 - 2013-11-09 18:35:25 UTC
Shock Fist wrote:
Eisenhornx wrote:
Trii Seo wrote:
There was RP on the empire side, it just probably got drowned in spam.

That said, awaiting to see the magical way this event could've been made better. For us it was a blast so how could it be more awesome?


I am sorry I tend to find it hard to dumb down things enough for some people to understand.
What I was trying to say in an answer to your question was that the "Live Event" should have had even NPC's on both Empire and Pirate factions, and the event was held in an area where both null and empire can meet on the same footings, (this would be lowsec.) things would have ended much different than they did. But this alternative would have you "ebil piwates" crying so i guess there is no winning.


Sorry, I couldn't hear what you were saying from up there. Could you step down from your high horse so the rest of us mortals can converse with you?


what fun would it be without the piercing comments to start things off?
Asbjrn
The Executives
#748 - 2013-11-09 18:37:04 UTC
bye what i can read on forums i see the two big groups:

Nullsec players:
Tidi = ahh its tidi
Long travel with bubles in the way = Bouce of celestial its bubles or burn through the bubles
Hostiles = FC call primary!
looses ship = GF.... Reship


Highsec pubies:
Tidi = this is horrible **** ccp
Long travel = **** ccp stupid bubles **** ccp **** nullsec **** fc
Hostiles = Dock up get safe...... oh wait im bubled **** ccp
Looses Ship = Ragequit smack on forums threaten with quitting eve while continuing sadle playing in Highsec not knowing eve has moore to offer.

we meet tidi every big fleet fight and we deal with it.
if my spelling or grammar is not good Deal with it


Killerjock
Von Neumann Industries
#749 - 2013-11-09 18:38:24 UTC
Octoven wrote:
I see....so you continued into the trap anyway despite better judgement...I wonder who between the two of us is playing to oblivious.


I did not know the trap was set - as someone mentioned I don't remember where the staging systems are and I'm mostly ignorant of the geography of nullsec. It is something that I never had to concern myself with.

I was not expecting such a gankfest, although it did not surprise me once I realized it was there. I had not seen ALL the information on the community site - I actually thought all info would come together, but I'm not mentioning that because THAT was my fault.

But to tell people to go to meves and later to stacmon and later to 8V-SJJ.... that wasn't my decision.
To tell people at the latest possible time where they would go wasn't my decision.
To provide no meaning of fast transportation - while knowing the nullsec alliances DO have them, that wasn't my decision.
My decision was to follow along to see if I cold see anything unusual or pretty before I got killed. As mentioned, I don't icare about the ship or my pod - thoguh i got that home (barely). To lose two hours like this is just annoying.

I followed along convinced that I would die horribly in an event. In fact I died horribly at a losec gatecamp - and as I said many pages ago, I can do that myself without tidi, 2000 players, and CCP intervention.

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Well, to start there was plenty of RP elements involved. The RP goes: Empires tried to stop Serpentis activities in Outer Regions. Serpentis were aided by Outer Region inhabitants and held the empire forces back, delivering some righteous smackin' in the process. In fact, smackin' so hard it was heard by crying pods all the way back to trade hubs.


Trii-Seo, this sounds like the "supermario is a RPG" discussion we had with someone else. The fact there's a storyline involved doesn't make it "RP" - in fact, to not have this event would've been exactly the same from the story perspective.

This was advertised as a big push from the empire navies into "pirate faction" space, a one shot call to all capsuleers to join in the effort. I haven't seen the empire navies, and if all they could muster is 20 bships then we should be removing them from the game and get it over with - we had 2000 capsuleers and 40 empire ships?

40 empire ships that we mostly did not see, since they were already at the target while we were merry-go-lucky through half the galaxy. Wanna drop me in a death-trap? I'll play along, if you deliver what you promised me - something unusual to see, some epic battle.
To die in an epic battle is something. To die in a gatecamp can be done without flying 23 jumps in tidi.

If CCP wanted to show the weakness of the empires, have it the other way around. Let the lo/null people come to hisec and show all players the inability of the empires to repel them. The disorganized forces have the chance to stay together and the alliances will get here at the same time anyway cuz they know how to do it.
Gankfest extraordinnaire, hisec people get killed, concord gets killed, killboards get stuffed, and everyone gets home happy. I bet most of the players who complained here would have agreed to this.

After all, if 40 ships is the combined force of all empire's navy, any capsuleer with half a brain and a HAC could take on and destroy any single empire, anytime, and with no risk whatsoever.
Shock Fist
Blank-Space
Northern Coalition.
#750 - 2013-11-09 18:38:54 UTC
Tidi for the first time = WEEEEE Im warping in slow motion!
Killerjock
Von Neumann Industries
#751 - 2013-11-09 18:39:43 UTC
Asbjrn wrote:
bye what i can read on forums i see the two big groups:
Highsec pubies:
Tidi = this is horrible **** ccp
Long travel = **** ccp stupid bubles **** ccp **** nullsec **** fc
Hostiles = Dock up get safe...... oh wait im bubled **** ccp
Looses Ship = Ragequit smack on forums threaten with quitting eve while continuing sadle playing in Highsec not knowing eve has moore to offer.

we meet tidi every big fleet fight and we deal with it.
if my spelling or grammar is not good Deal with it


It's not spelling or grammar, it's your understanding that is flawed. You read whatever the heck you wanted to read.

You're wrong. Deal with it.
Shock Fist
Blank-Space
Northern Coalition.
#752 - 2013-11-09 18:40:38 UTC
Killerjock wrote:
Asbjrn wrote:
bye what i can read on forums i see the two big groups:
Highsec pubies:
Tidi = this is horrible **** ccp
Long travel = **** ccp stupid bubles **** ccp **** nullsec **** fc
Hostiles = Dock up get safe...... oh wait im bubled **** ccp
Looses Ship = Ragequit smack on forums threaten with quitting eve while continuing sadle playing in Highsec not knowing eve has moore to offer.

we meet tidi every big fleet fight and we deal with it.
if my spelling or grammar is not good Deal with it


It's not spelling or grammar, it's your understanding that is flawed. You read whatever the heck you wanted to read.

You're wrong. Deal with it.


No you.
Eisenhornx
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#753 - 2013-11-09 18:41:07 UTC
Asbjrn wrote:
bye what i can read on forums i see the two big groups:

Nullsec players:
Tidi = ahh its tidi
Long travel with bubles in the way = Bouce of celestial its bubles or burn through the bubles
Hostiles = FC call primary!
looses ship = GF.... Reship


Highsec pubies:
Tidi = this is horrible **** ccp
Long travel = **** ccp stupid bubles **** ccp **** nullsec **** fc
Hostiles = Dock up get safe...... oh wait im bubled **** ccp
Looses Ship = Ragequit smack on forums threaten with quitting eve while continuing sadle playing in Highsec not knowing eve has moore to offer.

we meet tidi every big fleet fight and we deal with it.
if my spelling or grammar is not good Deal with it




Now this is the first intelligent thing said by the opposing side.

on the other hand the main issue of this post was the event in all, and since i did all the things of the nullsec player save the reshipping I dont see anything wrong with EVE itself just the live event.
Asbjrn
The Executives
#754 - 2013-11-09 18:42:05 UTC
Shock Fist wrote:
Killerjock wrote:
Asbjrn wrote:
bye what i can read on forums i see the two big groups:
Highsec pubies:
Tidi = this is horrible **** ccp
Long travel = **** ccp stupid bubles **** ccp **** nullsec **** fc
Hostiles = Dock up get safe...... oh wait im bubled **** ccp
Looses Ship = Ragequit smack on forums threaten with quitting eve while continuing sadle playing in Highsec not knowing eve has moore to offer.

we meet tidi every big fleet fight and we deal with it.
if my spelling or grammar is not good Deal with it


It's not spelling or grammar, it's your understanding that is flawed. You read whatever the heck you wanted to read.

You're wrong. Deal with it.


No you.


NO YOU shock F**K YOUEvil
Shock Fist
Blank-Space
Northern Coalition.
#755 - 2013-11-09 18:42:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Shock Fist
Thats not very nice Asbjrn Cry
Asbjrn
The Executives
#756 - 2013-11-09 18:45:58 UTC
Shock Fist wrote:
Thats not very nice Asbjrn Cry


Sorry if i hurt your feealings. "walking away from computer feeling like a boss"
Eisenhornx
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#757 - 2013-11-09 18:47:50 UTC
Killerjock wrote:
[quote=Octoven]

Trii-Seo, this sounds like the "supermario is a RPG" discussion we had with someone else. The fact there's a storyline involved doesn't make it "RP" - in fact, to not have this event would've been exactly the same from the story perspective.

This was advertised as a big push from the empire navies into "pirate faction" space, a one shot call to all capsuleers to join in the effort. I haven't seen the empire navies, and if all they could muster is 20 bships then we should be removing them from the game and get it over with - we had 2000 capsuleers and 40 empire ships?

40 empire ships that we mostly did not see, since they were already at the target while we were merry-go-lucky through half the galaxy. Wanna drop me in a death-trap? I'll play along, if you deliver what you promised me - something unusual to see, some epic battle.
To die in an epic battle is something. To die in a gatecamp can be done without flying 23 jumps in tidi.

If CCP wanted to show the weakness of the empires, have it the other way around. Let the lo/null people come to hisec and show all players the inability of the empires to repel them. The disorganized forces have the chance to stay together and the alliances will get here at the same time anyway cuz they know how to do it.
Gankfest extraordinnaire, hisec people get killed, concord gets killed, killboards get stuffed, and everyone gets home happy. I bet most of the players who complained here would have agreed to this.

After all, if 40 ships is the combined force of all empire's navy, any capsuleer with half a brain and a HAC could take on and destroy any single empire, anytime, and with no risk whatsoever.


Now that would have made a much better event. make concord unable to mobilize, and have the null alliances come to hi sec and slaughter or try to slaughter the empires. no gate camps just pure war. I dont think anyone can argue with this.
Aramatheia
Tiffany and Co.
#758 - 2013-11-09 18:50:23 UTC
Trii Seo wrote:
There was RP on the empire side, it just probably got drowned in spam.

That said, awaiting to see the magical way this event could've been made better. For us it was a blast so how could it be more awesome?


i dunno i didnt go but maybe.. just tell ppl where it is happening, let nul folks assemble to defend the piratey holdings along with some ccp evil folks, have a ccp/empire titan or 2 jump high sec folks directly into the system, once a player enter system they will find a couple ccp friendlies in a safe spot (can be scanned down).

pour high seccers into system with some beacons to random pirately holdings (guarded by whoever hates highseccy ppl)

high seccers warp to targets however they please, thier fc's command along with the ccp friendlies, everyone shoots each other to bits.

crafty null seccers scan down entry point for high seccers and have thier way with stragglers and whatever else is there/needed for the titan jump things (possibly sealing any quick evac to high sec options.

high sec and null sec ppl shoot, might still be a bloodbath but at least theres a feeling of war, battle and something to struggle for, on both ends

i'd be keen for that. no mysticism, no godships and uber me no die modes. just no choke point for whack a mole, at least not from the nanosecond the event starts
Asbjrn
The Executives
#759 - 2013-11-09 18:52:40 UTC
Eisenhornx wrote:
Killerjock wrote:
[quote=Octoven]

Trii-Seo, this sounds like the "supermario is a RPG" discussion we had with someone else. The fact there's a storyline involved doesn't make it "RP" - in fact, to not have this event would've been exactly the same from the story perspective.

This was advertised as a big push from the empire navies into "pirate faction" space, a one shot call to all capsuleers to join in the effort. I haven't seen the empire navies, and if all they could muster is 20 bships then we should be removing them from the game and get it over with - we had 2000 capsuleers and 40 empire ships?

40 empire ships that we mostly did not see, since they were already at the target while we were merry-go-lucky through half the galaxy. Wanna drop me in a death-trap? I'll play along, if you deliver what you promised me - something unusual to see, some epic battle.
To die in an epic battle is something. To die in a gatecamp can be done without flying 23 jumps in tidi.

If CCP wanted to show the weakness of the empires, have it the other way around. Let the lo/null people come to hisec and show all players the inability of the empires to repel them. The disorganized forces have the chance to stay together and the alliances will get here at the same time anyway cuz they know how to do it.
Gankfest extraordinnaire, hisec people get killed, concord gets killed, killboards get stuffed, and everyone gets home happy. I bet most of the players who complained here would have agreed to this.

After all, if 40 ships is the combined force of all empire's navy, any capsuleer with half a brain and a HAC could take on and destroy any single empire, anytime, and with no risk whatsoever.


Now that would have made a much better event. make concord unable to mobilize, and have the null alliances come to hi sec and slaughter or try to slaughter the empires. no gate camps just pure war. I dont think anyone can argue with this.


We love the idea.
Shock Fist
Blank-Space
Northern Coalition.
#760 - 2013-11-09 18:58:43 UTC
To be honest, any large event fleet heading to anywhere fun will have a certain bottleneck, you cannot avoid this. Quite simply, get prepared for it and then come face us in the proper fashion, or stop crying about losing ships to disorganisation.

You don't get beginners luck with this sort of thing, learn to HTFU.