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Probably the WORST event I've wasted my time on in my 10 years of EVE ...

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ChYph3r
Omni Defense Corp.
#681 - 2013-11-09 13:56:09 UTC
Really ISD and CCP 35 pages of Empire Tears and this thread isn't locked yet? Itsgetting really redundant....

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epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#682 - 2013-11-09 14:00:09 UTC
ChYph3r wrote:
Really ISD and CCP 35 pages of Empire Tears and this thread isn't locked yet? Itsgetting really redundant....


Just for balance, How would you feel about no communications, being dropped into a high level incursion in groups of 3 where you didn't know the other 2 and had a FC who was trying his hardest to get you killed ? And it took you over an hour of TiDi hell to get there?

There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE
Halaxi
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
#683 - 2013-11-09 14:00:57 UTC
epicurus ataraxia wrote:
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Apart from the usual suspects, does anyone not really believe that it was -how shall i put it nicely- a little unbalanced?What?


Well, if the 'Empire' fleets were able to zerg it into the systems at the same sort of time, and were led by players willing to at least say 'go here, shoot that', then it might have been a little different. As it stands, due to the much-repeated issues, the zerg was more of a trickle of lemmings. So yeah, a tad weighted towards the 'shoot all the things' fleets.

Hal.
Why yes, yes I am going to shoot you.
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#684 - 2013-11-09 14:10:16 UTC
Well folks, I reduced my subscriptions to this one account well over a year ago based on CCP actions, and have not re-subbed (not totally true: I resubbed the account for one month to get the dessie V / BC V skills, then shut it down again, in case CCP ever gets it head out of its ass)

I would suggest that perhaps EVERYONE, who is on month to month subs, reduce themselves to one account, or at least unsub one account, for a period of one month.
And if asked by CCP , give the specific reason.

That is the only way CCP will really listen to any demands.
Presently, they are happily skyping and texting with their null sec buddies giggling like school girls over what they "accomplished" together.
epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#685 - 2013-11-09 14:12:57 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Well folks, I reduced my subscriptions to this one account well over a year ago based on CCP actions, and have not re-subbed (not totally true: I resubbed the account for one month to get the dessie V / BC V skills, then shut it down again, in case CCP ever gets it head out of its ass)

I would suggest that perhaps EVERYONE, who is on month to month subs, reduce themselves to one account, or at least unsub one account, for a period of one month.
And if asked by CCP , give the specific reason.

That is the only way CCP will really listen to any demands.
Presently, they are happily skyping and texting with their null sec buddies giggling like school girls over what they "accomplished" together.

I was preparing to resub my other account prior to Rubicon

Not nowUgh

There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE
Deunan Tenephais
#686 - 2013-11-09 14:13:39 UTC
The problem is not that players will now think that CONCORD, or the Gallente Fed, or any other ingame faction is unreliable.
These players will (alas rightly so) think that CCP is unreliable, but CCP is supposed to be managing the game itself.
It does not foster confidence in EVE...
Trii Seo
Goonswarm Federation
#687 - 2013-11-09 14:18:34 UTC
From what I've gathered in this thread, it seems a lot of people expected a rigged event in safe space where they hold back red crosses and achieve the objective easily.

It didn't happen.

It seems a lot of "I know there's danger out there but it doesn't affect me" bubbles were shattered in this event.

Proud pilot of the Imperium

Arek'Jaalan: Heliograph
Anna Karhunen
Inoue INEXP
#688 - 2013-11-09 14:19:49 UTC
From what I have gathered in these threads is that majority of nullsec posters are functionally illiterate.

As my old maths teacher used to say: "Statistics are like bikinis: It's what they don't show that's interesting". -CCP Aporia
Anomaly One
Doomheim
#689 - 2013-11-09 14:26:02 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Well folks, I reduced my subscriptions to this one account well over a year ago based on CCP actions, and have not re-subbed (not totally true: I resubbed the account for one month to get the dessie V / BC V skills, then shut it down again, in case CCP ever gets it head out of its ass)

I would suggest that perhaps EVERYONE, who is on month to month subs, reduce themselves to one account, or at least unsub one account, for a period of one month.
And if asked by CCP , give the specific reason.

That is the only way CCP will really listen to any demands.
Presently, they are happily skyping and texting with their null sec buddies giggling like school girls over what they "accomplished" together.


I was going to put a reason in the unsub form but what's the point they don't care, well at least now I can truly tell anyone who wants to try eve how bad this game is.

By far the eve community is the most rotten to the core, every.. single.. thread.. you get masses of idiots repeating the same thing like braindead dmged robots "tears, delicious, can I have your stuff" I have never seen such **** behavior and to think these are the "elite" of the eve world, our mistake is thinking CCP is an actual respectable gaming company, they're not, you should imagine them like a bunch of sheep herders who made a game and don't care about it as long as them and their buddies keep playing it, no wonder no one has heard of CCP they are utter ****.

And look they still keep posting the same ****.. I can not believe how illiterate they are, we are here arguing how disrespectful what the company did and the trust is broken and they are still bantering on the same thing, it's ******* unbelievable.
epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#690 - 2013-11-09 14:30:03 UTC  |  Edited by: epicurus ataraxia
Well now they have CCPd Hisec and had a lovely party, Christmas is coming, Or possibly the Post rubicon Party.

Imagine the hilarity when they hotdrop sleepers and Sansha's incursions on Null and forcibly eject everyone from station and camp the gates to safety?Shocked

POS shields fail,Logoff and jump bridges disabled ...Seems fair.
Big smile

Forget fanfest, I'd go to Iceland for THAT party.

There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE
Klyn
Mad Tea Inc.
#691 - 2013-11-09 14:32:59 UTC
Trii Seo wrote:
From what I've gathered in this thread, it seems a lot of people expected a rigged event in safe space where they hold back red crosses and achieve the objective easily..

You gathered wrong. And if you read this thread, you know what the problem is.
Ten years in the business and then this as the big lore building event? Pretty embarrassing for CCP...
Peter Grayson
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#692 - 2013-11-09 14:34:19 UTC
I believe this event/trap (i didn't participate to) was just simply a pre-patch gift made by CCP to goons. that's all… Pirate
epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#693 - 2013-11-09 14:35:53 UTC
Peter Grayson wrote:
I believe this event/trap (i didn't participate to) was just simply a pre-patch gift made by CCP to goons. that's all… Pirate


Can we have a gift too?
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3852083#post3852083
Lol

There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE
Octoven
Stellar Production
#694 - 2013-11-09 14:37:09 UTC
epicurus ataraxia wrote:
ChYph3r wrote:
Really ISD and CCP 35 pages of Empire Tears and this thread isn't locked yet? Itsgetting really redundant....


Just for balance, How would you feel about no communications, being dropped into a high level incursion in groups of 3 where you didn't know the other 2 and had a FC who was trying his hardest to get you killed ? And it took you over an hour of TiDi hell to get there?


Id get over it, and learn from it. Besides you werent DROPPED into anything, you chose to go.
epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#695 - 2013-11-09 14:38:36 UTC  |  Edited by: epicurus ataraxia
Octoven wrote:
epicurus ataraxia wrote:
ChYph3r wrote:
Really ISD and CCP 35 pages of Empire Tears and this thread isn't locked yet? Itsgetting really redundant....


Just for balance, How would you feel about no communications, being dropped into a high level incursion in groups of 3 where you didn't know the other 2 and had a FC who was trying his hardest to get you killed ? And it took you over an hour of TiDi hell to get there?


Id get over it, and learn from it. Besides you werent DROPPED into anything, you chose to go.



Oh pray tell mighty warrior,What would you learn from that lesson.

There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE
epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#696 - 2013-11-09 14:41:28 UTC  |  Edited by: epicurus ataraxia
Octoven wrote:
epicurus ataraxia wrote:
ChYph3r wrote:
Really ISD and CCP 35 pages of Empire Tears and this thread isn't locked yet? Itsgetting really redundant....


Just for balance, How would you feel about no communications, being dropped into a high level incursion in groups of 3 where you didn't know the other 2 and had a FC who was trying his hardest to get you killed ? And it took you over an hour of TiDi hell to get there?


Id get over it, and learn from it. Besides you werent DROPPED into anything, you chose to go.



Oh pray tell might warrior,What would you learn from that lesson.

Bear in mind that CCP have shown they find awoxing their own player base fun.
Feel safe now?
Wonder what they will do to you?
Here's a thought.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3852083#post3852083


Edit:- round and round we go.

Trying to talk sense to these people is like having a piece of paper with please Turn over on both sides.

There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE
Edie Riggs
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#697 - 2013-11-09 14:48:37 UTC
Dear High Sec Newbs
You play a game like Eve, and do not expect fuckery to happen? You wander into null sec, and expect no one to come for you? Particularly when surrounded by CFC space? What did you think would happen? PONIES AND RAINBOWS? You guys need to come to understand the true sandboxie nature of Eve online. You need to understand that no where in new eden is safe, and there will always be IMMENENT FUCKERY around every corner.

For now, I have a special message for you from our CCP overlords:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgvM7av1o1Q

Enjoy
epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#698 - 2013-11-09 14:53:45 UTC  |  Edited by: epicurus ataraxia
Edie Riggs wrote:
Dear High Sec Newbs
You play a game like Eve, and do not expect fuckery to happen? You wander into null sec, and expect no one to come for you? Particularly when surrounded by CFC space? What did you think would happen? PONIES AND RAINBOWS? You guys need to come to understand the true sandboxie nature of Eve online. You need to understand that no where in new eden is safe, and there will always be IMMENENT FUCKERY around every corner.

For now, I have a special message for you from our CCP overlords:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgvM7av1o1Q

Enjoy



'Fuckery' as you so elegantly put it is expected from lowlifes and scum.

It is not expected from a professional Game company that we pay real money to. You do not expect them to put razor blades in the sandbox.

Being awoxed for Giggles by a real world business is beyond contempt.

There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE
Aramatheia
Tiffany and Co.
#699 - 2013-11-09 14:58:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Aramatheia
Quote:


Again I iterate this website is not in-game and we rely very heavily on it for information, how is a eve account on twitter any differently? Yes twitter is not an eve specific themed website, BUT the twitter account for eve IS and thus a reliable source of game information. We relied heavily on it when eve went under the DDoS attack for updates, I never heard any complaints then. I must therefore assume you only complain when you do not gain from it. Which in my point of view demeans the quality of your complaints and concerns. Both of the aforementioned quotes are failed arguments, twitter is indeed a source of in-game information just as this website is...the fact that you do not like the website as a means of disseminating information is irrelevant.


No one was trying to organise 1000+ players in 2 locations during an high intensity in game event during the ddos saga. It was 100% impossible to issue in game news of the problem for obvious reasons.

What exactly would hinder the distribution of in game news, ingame, during a live event and/or its lead up?

ultimately it means nothing as i was in bed asleep but i cant really justify sitting back watching some ppl argue that the eve online twitter account is a highly accessable and obvious source ofr accurate uptodate and flowing live event intell/organisation.

I mean.. what is the eve online twitter account, i dont even know. How many of these forum ppl could honestly accurately say exactly what it is right here, right now? like 2% and how many eve players dont even use the forums? twitter for live event control/organising.. thats a farce
Trii Seo
Goonswarm Federation
#700 - 2013-11-09 15:23:28 UTC
Commands as to where to move were also issued in fleet chat. People just didn't know they should shut up and read, not spam over it. Their fault.

Being a cold, harsh universe - EVE is essentially a sandbox with rusty razors and an odd mine here or there. So out of curiosity, what did people expect from walking into null security space waving an empire flag? Hugs and kisses?

What did people expect from the event anyway, attack on important sites in hisec space and shooting red crosses, then calling it a win?

Proud pilot of the Imperium

Arek'Jaalan: Heliograph