Live Events Discussion

Well, ya know, after the target was announced, we crawled for 23 jumps.
And I'm quite sure no bridge or cyno has been lit anywhere in nullsec to avoid the fleets slowboating through 23 systems, so there was no unbalance of capabilities.... right?



Yeah yeah. go read one or two of the 500 posts, you might actually be able to say something meaningful after that.



Safety isn't the matter. I just wanted to see what the event was about before or while getting killed.
Is that really so much of a request? Is that really something you badass 1337 veterans of a thousand space wars can't grasp?

WOW!

Talk about leading sheep to the wolves!

CCP, if your trying to educate players on PVP, don't throw the kids into the deep end of the pool first.

If your trying to spice things up for the NULL sec residents, good job.

Now for the next live event, CCP should let loose a Vger(1) type AI ship loose thru NULL space and let it "collect" anything it comes in contact with.


(1) Vger is Voyager in reference to the Star Trek : The Motion Picture

It would be good. This was the first time I was able to participate in a live event and I was hoping it would be along the scale the Titan going down on Caldari Prime. Perhaps it was an unrealistic expectation, but I was hoping to experience something with more substance than what I already experience living in Null Sec. Losing a ship was not an issue. Losing a ship to a lowly Ivy league gate camp - a group that started out in Meves to boot and the lack of any substance to this event points to very poor forethought and planning into the event (really... what was the point?)

In short there seemed to be:
1 - no real dev support for the event
2 - did not enhance my game experience or my connection to the EVE lore
3 - if it was meant as an introductory for High Sec dwellers to come to play in null more, this may have had the opposite effect.
4 - poorly planned
5 - insubstantial

Events should be big deals... story line engaging. This was... anything but.

so in the end it turns out that we were not ducks in the shooting range, nor the shooters, we are were just UNPAID clowns for the CCP evening party. anyone else feels used?

I dunno why they didnt just create a worm hole to someplace deep in null sec and try to fly the group out and see if us glorious null sec dwellers could muster a defence. Would be really funny seeing 2k **** pilots in **** ships trying to reinforce a pos or station etc.

Yep it sucked. The reasons i however are:

Meet up in x and do a 17 jumps all in 10% tidi except for the 4 low-sec systems. Lets be honest their is a reason people don't move fleets that size in null and low sec and use jump bridges/titans. It's because you can't do it. The Gates cant handle that much traffic. The development tools must allow you to 'titan bridge' a bunch of ships right? Personally i really didn't get the logic in that long travel time.

No hi sec coherence. there was never going to be lets be honest, fish in a barrel was what was going to happen. The thing is i remember Tama being a lot more fun and PL cap dropped that! The problem is you had a large fleet jumping into another fleet, guess what happens when the other fleet actually had some sort of organisation ;) Salvage. Dear CCP you had to know it would go down that way. I mean really you thought that their wouldn't be a significant null PVP presence? Also broadcasting in local orders is not clever.

Also dear Hisec, what did you think would happen? Flying a bunch of kitchen sink fleets to null? Yes you were going to get blown to pieces. Don't complain about that, but you are well within your rights to complain about poor planning and tidi travel.

CCP logistics (and i don't mean reps) is pretty much the way forward here. You really need to think about how you do things. No ones going to complain if you bridge hi-sec pilots in as long as everyone gets fights and has fun, which is what this is all about. 17 jumps in 10% tidi not fun. Flying head first into a gate camp not fun.

getting shot at and shooting back fun. The thing is all the null and low entities shooting at each other before tha hi sec fleets turned up had fun, because it was fun.

Anyway my two cents

if Highsec did organize and come after our territories in null and try to burn it, we would rejoice. Unlike wormholers or null pvpers that actually know what they are doing, highsec people will 99% of the time fly kitchen sink. My ratting ships would molest kitchen sink. We fly doctrine ships because we are organized and able to fight. Organization wins every time against superior numbers. You might also notice that wormhole pvpers and nullsec roamers do not hang around in one location, because the defending alliance will always form up a superior fleet to take on the enemy. It's why it's more akin to a hit and run raid rather than a take and hold action.

You think that highsec could take on nullsec in our backyard? Nullsec would slaughter you like lambs. Just like they did in Doril. And the numbers present in Doril weren't even a fraction of the CFC. They fielded 2600 pilots during TEST's last stand. N3 fields similar numbers and I know Stainwagon can form a thousand in their time zone.

Even if every single highsec player in the event fleet was on the gate and jumped through to fight the 300-400 man CFC blob on the gate, which was something like 2000 people....you would have still been slaughtered like cattle. If you wanted to stand a chance, you need proper fleet commanders, a united doctrine so the fleet effectiveness is kept intact, and an idea of what the hell you are doing. (Hint: Don't fly shield doctrine ships in an armor fleet.)

Armies fight not as individuals, but as a unit. It's why the Roman Legions used to cry "AS ONE!" when they went into a battle.

I can imagine the frustration that comes with the TiDi, and it's never fun. It also sounds like a gigantic mess that no one knew what to do. But you made the choice to fly into nullsec, and its dangerous to live out here.

We would just bring CONCORD with us. And first we would disable your personal signatures from the mind transfer service, so you would die if you were podded on your main clone, or would lose every skillpoint since the last jump if you were podded on a JC.

Then we would just exterminate you or force you to stay behind your station walls until you surrendered.

The danger of Rome was not the Roman populace. it was their legions, my little Pontian, and they are 99.99% omniresists fearsome. So pray to your CCP barbarian gods, that they never ever give us control over what is ours.

Oh you dare jest so, my little barbarian. Back to your highsec cave. Begone! Or we shall burn Jita or something. We will clog your guns with our wrecks, and then when we lose our sov, we shall live in NPC null and gank in highsec for all eternity.

We shall bring our tinfoil hats, and proclaim to our brothers in the CSM and CCP to save us from the evil CONCORD. Instead of a protest CCP day, let's hold a protest CONCORD day!

Apart from the usual suspects, does anyone not really believe that it was -how shall i put it nicely- a little unbalanced?