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Anubis Aureus
Aucaedu Unlimited
#1 - 2013-11-09 05:08:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Anubis Aureus
Dear CCP. Welcome to "How to: LiveEvent!"

A short disclaimer: Here i want to share ideas about liveevents with you! Please take a seat, have ****, take from the cookies.
So what does what stand vor?
Versionnumber: Ideas who come to mind - we have to give them a number, we have to keep them in some kind order, right?
CCP: Stands of course for common computer player. People who talk about the possible event and discuss it!
Anticipationlevel Hihi: How much fun will this offer for the playerbase from highsec?
Anticipationlevel Ohno: How much fun will this offer for the playerbase from Nullsec?

Let's recapitulate your priamary idea: Send houndres/thousands of Highsec player to slaughter to Nullsec and let the fight Nullsec-Player for some reason!

Well done. Here we go:

Version 1: "For the ghosts of our ancient (failed events)!"
CCP1: We do not give out to much information and tell Highsec just to gather in Sarum Prime. Then we let them travel trough non-reinforced nodes over 23 jumps to another Highsec-System, just to lead them right throuh nullsec into hell. Or no wait. Just let us send... Mh... lets say about 200 of them in there as a good start. Nullseccarebears do always need hours to get their haircut well to come to events, so they might start closer to this. And they never got good fittings to fly with and nooo logistics to get equipment. Yeah, that should work.
CCP2: "Thats 23 jumps trough highsec without reinforced node... and... erm? Whats that?THAT Nullsec? What about gatecamps there? And isnt THAT system a huge staging system for a NullSec alliance?"
CCP1: "stagingwhat? What the hell are you babbling about? Geez... Stawhatever, bubbles... mh... bubblegum! Yo, Miss Seagull, in which pocket did my mom stuff my bubblegum?!"
CCP3: "Iiii want some faaaaction battleshiiiiips. Gimme! Gimme gimme! And iiii want staaaation. Highsec players want to kill somethin in Nullsec. Make a station for everyone to shoot at! With a big boom. Yes. Boom boom. Deeeep in Nullsec!"
CCP1: "Ogay *chewchew* so we do this! *chewchew* Just write something about eve needs its capsuleers and stuff. *chewchew*. God i do love this anti-brain-bubblegum! Blblblblblblblbl....*sobber*"
CCP2 & CCP: "For me toooo!"

AnticipationlevelHihi:ARE YOU F*** SERIOUS? **** ***** CCP ******* ****, ****!!! &$%& *** ****** *** !¡!= 0/10 "might not work that well, tho."
AnticipationlevelOhNo:: Turkey shooting! Hell yeah! YARRR and a buddle of... oh they brought shiny stuff as well! = 7/10 "Well done CCP-Guys! That was fun!"


Version 2: "Lemmingtrain, I do fly in my lemmintrain... whoho"
CCP1: "Let the highseccarybaerys have some fun! Let sem jump into a closes system so noooo dumb noobierapinggoonie can harm sem! Let sem shoot a station and spawn some one-day old angel-cartel rookienoobiecharacters.
CCP2: "We have so bridge sem in sen. Or just warp sem in ser."
CCP3: "Whats with se nullsec carebearrapingbubblegumchewersens?"
CCP1: "Sey can take part srough se highsecjumportal."
CCP3: "Oh! And se explosion from se nullsec was an failed experiment creating new gates srough noob eden ans se highsecarebearys are naow able to save seir game?"
CCP2: "Neat!"

AnticipationlevelHihi:Oh this is SO c00l! Just brought my lovely officerfitted ship to take part here. Oh look over there! And there are the bad guys! Haha you cant harm us. Haha! Noobs! = 7/10 "Well done CCP-Guys! That was fun!"
AnticipationlevelOhNo:ARE YOU F*** SERIOUS? **** ***** CCP ******* ****, ****!!! &$%& *** ****** *** YOU LET THEM JUMP INTO OUR SPACE AND DONT EVEN LET US POD ALL OF THEM!¡!= 0/10 "might not work that well, tho."


Version 3: "I've seen a light!"
CCP1: We should do this whole event in Nullsec in one system. Say noone where we lead the player to. Spawn two titans, one to bridge in every player who is part of the eventfleets in highsec and the other for the pirates. Then let the fight for the station beginn."
CCP2: "That might be a bit unfair. Nullsec's are fewer, even while beeing better equipped and lead. We might as well spawn several NPC Battleships at the station if they are to few. We'll see"
CCP3: "We might as well tell the Highsec guys that this will be a PvP Event and they might not come back from their mission. Just spread this information about one hour before the jumpbridge starts, otherwise they might come with to much pve-fittings and no actual logis. Or Fc's.
CCP1: "Sounds acceptable to me. And dont forget to reinforce the node!"
CCP2: "It's very likely the Nullsec guys will win. What's with the highsec NPC-ships then?"
CCP3: "As soon as one side is about to loose, while its very likely to be the highsec side, let the titans retreat, abonding their fellow pilots and leave them for slaughter!"
CCP1, CCP2, CCP3: "YARRR!!!"

AnticipationlevelHihi:Oh great! A Titan! I've never seen one of these yet! Oh god! So much people in my fleet! So much people in this system! All these ships! OH GOD! INCOMING! FOR HIGHSEEEEEC! FOR OUR NAAAATIOOO... *POUF* "So you died? Well you have a blabla..." So many died! But we failed with honour/won! And look, all these guys who formed new little fleets after their fleet commander dissappered/fled who managed to still put out serious damage or escpaced! = 7/10 WELL DONE!
AnticipationlevelOhNo:: THE NULLSEC HAS COME TO CLAIM YOUR PODS FOR THE PODGOD! BRIDGE IN DA DRAEDNADS! SLAUGHTER THEM! Holy ****! What a fight! Didnt expect these carebears to kill so much of us! Whoa! = 9/10 AWESOME!"
Anubis Aureus
Aucaedu Unlimited
#2 - 2013-11-09 05:11:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Anubis Aureus
Version 4: "What do you mean by 'teleport my titan to Sarum Prime?!'"
CCP1: "We might change our plans. Reincorce the Sarum Node as high as possible. Let up to 1200 High-secplayer in. Maybe 1500. Let them wait for 18:50 eve time when suddenly a horrible failure by the amarrian navy is revealed which deactivates all CONCORD-Ships for 1 hour. Let the player jump to the spawned beacon where a station is on which the players should shoot"
CCP2: "And then? 18:52 a gates open up and then 600/800/1200 Nullsecveterans jump out with a CCP-driven titan? Maybe we need some NPC ships as reinforcements for the nullsecs as well.
CCP3: "Uhhhh... Lovely! But the amarrian empire should try to help at least a little bit. And when the station is at 50% armor every amarrian navy ship runs for its moomy."
CCP1: "Jamyl wouldnt be pleased."
CCP3: "We could also let the titan kill them, if you prefer that. Or call the FC to kill the amarrians first. Maybe we should bridge in more ships after several percents of armor or shield? 75% reinforcements from amarr, 25% caldari, 75% armor Amarr and 75% hull minmatar.
CCP2: "Minmatar at structure, because they do know how scrapmetal looks like?"
CCP1: "And as soon as the station is at 50% hull the highsec-npc ships just run for their life, leave the capsuleers allone. Bad Highsec-factions!

AnticipationlevelHihi:Whats going on? What? They did what? Are you *** me? Destroy the station, CONDORD IS DOWN! DESTROY THE... THE *** IS THA? Oh holy mother jamyl... CHAAAAARGE! FOR SARUM PRIME = 10/10 "Epic!
AnticipationlevelOhNo:ARE YOU F*** SERIOUS? **** ***** CCP?! We're allowed to drop **** right on top of highseccarebears without ANY punishment? Where shall I enlist for the next 20 of these events! = 10/10 Epic!"


Version 5: "You are who? What? Razor? Goons? Never heard! You're not on my list of invited guests.
CCP1: "Okay i suggest we put up a station somewhere in nullsec-system. A not so frequently visited one. Just beam every highsec player who want to take part in their to defend the station from the bad nullsec's who want to destroy the important reasearch from highest highsecimportance!"
CCP2: "So you want them to make something like gatecamps there? With random fleets?
CCP3: "Why not? I do like the idea. Unorgnized ships, maybe with just a few dictors. One system with 2 gates would be great. Then let the nullsec dogs go.
CCP1: "And meanwhile a titan stands at the station to save important data. After a ammount of time he leaves, promissing the whole time every capsuleer in this battle would be awarded..."
CCP3: "To leave them allone after the timer with no hope for escape?"
CCP2: "This might work! Reinforce da node!"

AnticipationlevelHihi:YOU SHALL NOT PASS! What? Hey! I said you should not pa... **POUF* "So you died? Well you have a blabla..." Nice event thou CCP. Some more informations would have been nice... = 5/10 not that bad
AnticipationlevelOhNo:"Heeeere i cooome with my looovly carebear sloughtership, heeeere i cooome with my looove... wtf? Gatecamp? Oh noes..." NERF CAREBAERS AND TIDI!!!11eleven But it was relly funny though! You put up a good fight highsecnoobs! = 8/10 quit nice!



Version 6: "Go. To . PROVIDENCE.
CCP1: "We might do this whole event in providence."
CCP2: "You're drunk, bro. Go home."
CCP3: "Wait wait... why not? It's NRDS, so they will not be killed right away and the nullsec guys have to push trough a more or less well defended spaceregion containing the providence block."
CCP2: "Where highsec-carebears can work together with nullsecplayers to do this while other nullsecplayers do attack? Woah! This sounds awesome tbh!"
CCP1: "I bet -7- will shoot on red highsecplayer at kpb."
CCP2: "I bet 500 highsec player can crush such a -7- gate. Might be quit fun for providence to clean up the KOS-List later on!
CCP1, CCP2, CCP3: "REINFORRRCA DA NOOODE... and exclude the cleaner get me the CVA-Koschecker! roflmao!"

AnticipationlevelHihi:Side by side we fight! Oh god! Help! Oh holy... See! REINFORCEMENTS from someone! Dreadnoughts! We're *POUF* "So you died? Well you have a blabla..." = 10/10 EPIC!
AnticipationlevelOhNo:"BIGGEST PROVI ROAM EVAR! GREAT! = 10/10 EPIC!
AnticipationlevelOhCrap:[Providence block]: WTF CCP? :D You ould at least've asked us... Everyone ate our fleets! = ~~/10 = ???"


So then CCP. As you might see, its not that hard to create ideas out of thin air without beeing a genius. Of course in every mentioned ideas-parts could stuff horribly go wrong and I'm pretty sure its not THAT easy for you to do such events. Especially the limits of hardware and manpower are, ofc, not to underestimate. But for most cases you could have asked us. Your player. You could have talked with some incursionfleets to form STRONG highsecfleets, you could have talked with some nullsec alliances to form something else than just a huge bubble of noobslaughter. You could've asked retired player, you could have asked CVA for their assistance for the #6. But im pretty sure most of the "beam people to somehwere" would have been quit much greatet about "balance" than what you did with your event #1. The biggest highsecfleet formed for 200 years? Yeah. Maybe. With 1/4 to 1/2 sent to slaughter for no real reason without even telling them whats going on.

One last suggestion: SPEAK WITH US. GIVE US INFORMATIONS. Its not liveevent if you just say "something will happen". Yes. Sack of rice keelt over in china. Great.
Anubis Aureus
Aucaedu Unlimited
#3 - 2013-11-09 05:19:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Anubis Aureus
Well then. i guess that was enough CCP bashing for now. So what now?
What could we do to make eve the game WE want to play?

This game is a sandbox game.
If we take a look at the rude reallity we can see eve, as it is:
http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/verite/influence.png
This is the actual map of eve, as it is. The black part in the mid is our so beloved "highsec" including all the "lowsec" and the other free spots are "nullsec" which is just not claimeable, but there are PVP players who kill every highsec player as soon as they see one. So everyone who never left Highsec so far (besides yesterday) get an actual idea how big eve really is. The other coloured parts are alliances who claim to be the owner of these edge of the universe. Wormhole space is not inclued on this map and that are a bunch of systems where people actually live in as well.
Most people in nullsec are not in greater danger as you in highsec are. There are no ninjas. No scammer. Way fewer ganks. Yes, of course: People do fight each other every day down there. But everyone who lives in highsec knows what he has to do there. And every inhabitant of Nullsec knows what he/she has to do there. So the risks are at the end minimal as long as you got no war. Then people call to arms, loose ships, pods and all that. And then? Many alliances offer a reimburse for in pvp lost ships. Its an insurance for the whole ship + fitting. Do you get your ship by your insurance company if you are killey in war? No?
Furthermore Fleetcommnders, allianceleaders, fittingpros do command them. They give them fittings to fly with in pvp. Every information is aviable for them quit easy. They've got mailingslists troug which they get every information. They got forums, mumble-chatrooms, they train and all that.


People always claim to be the highsecplayer to be the carebears. If you take a look from further above all of eve you can see: Its not the case. Nullsec always claim to bo so scary and highsec beeing so easy. Well. Does for ANYONE who took part in this fight yesterday on the nullsec side this battle seem like a "good, oldschool pvp battle"? If you would be honest, you would say you just had a level 6 mission with a few billion of loot vs player-driven "npcs ships". The fewest of highsec were equipped for pvp, it was just the usual devestating slaughter a highsec-carebears achives in level 4 missions. He knows the weaknees of the enemy, equips his ship in the right way and kills them. You could also say this event was a tier 6 incursion for this nullsec region.



So what do I want?
I suggest: Dear Highsecplayer. Dear rookies and beginner, dear player, who do not tend to kill every beginner in sight. There are plenty of Nullsec-Alliances and corporations and our space is small and (compared to nullsec) worthless. These people cry that WE are the weak part of Eve. You know why? Because WE are not united. WE got no leader like the goonswarm or Pandemic Legion. CCP lead us yesterday and they FAILED. Highsecplayer are the majority in eve. WE are FORCE.
One day WE shall UNITE and show these scumbags out of nullsec who IS the carebear and WHO is the WEAK spot in eve. Who is the blain which makes eve sick. One day the forces of Highsec will unite under one huge banner and throw these idiots out of their so beloved space to claim it back for OUR Highsec Empires. Almost every of these "pro-pvp" idiots got also chars in highsec and most of them do pve stuff in nullsec as well. PvP "pros" use new characters just to kill other player because they are not able to do otherwise. And they talk about skill?

One day the highsec carebears will seal off all borders to lowsec. One day every jumprighter from Low/Nullsec will be ganked by US. One day undocking jumprighter from jita will be killed by US. One day someone HIGHSEC will MOBILIZE. And then, NULLSEC, you will cry like little babys. Fear the carebears. Rubicon is coming. And we all together cross the line.
Psycotik Gier
Intergalactic Bunnies of Doom
#4 - 2013-11-09 05:51:35 UTC
Made me laugh +1