Live Events Discussion

lol, i'm done

We weren't just lambs led to the slaughterhouse. We weren't just guinea pigs for the new load balancer. We were the ******* entertainment at the office party. Goodbye, Live Events.

I was warping with an Abaddon, got 2 jumps out from Shedoo (all at 10% TiDi apart from 2 systems) and it was all over so the chatter said. Didn't fire one of the 11,000 Faction HM's I had in my hold.

Glad CCP Staff and the Null Bears were appeased for the node dying the other night...tinfoil hattery or truth. Look at the picture and make up your own mind of why organisation was chaotic\non-existent and why "RP Chars" AKA CCP Devs just dropped Fleet and logged.

The team running this should have known how it was going to turn out in advance.

Even if they didn't, they should have known how it WAS turning out during the super long TiDi adventure. That should have been time enough to figure out what to do, how to cancel the event gracefully or how to tell the players who jumped all that way what had happened and that they were probably going to die in a fire if they jumped.

Instead, CCP just essentially awoxed a bunch of high sec players after making them jump around for an hour. WTF?

Was turning hundreds or thousands of high sec players and noobs off of ever trying PvP or nullsec ever again worth it? Was possibly making some even quit the game worth it, just because your forethought and planning sucked, so you threw up your arms and said "**** it, the event is borked anyway, lets just get it over with and tell these scrubs to jump".

Good job guys, great way to build customer satisfaction.


I'm really not sure there should be a next time, but if there is, how about designing an event that takes place over weeks, and involves as much of the playerbase as possible, and does not involve trying to shoehorn thousands of players who want nothing to do with huge TiDi fights into a few systems for some silly reason?

If you read fleet chat you wouldve known we were going null. But most of you where just spamming fleet chat.


You all knew there was a gate camp if you nubs wernt spamming fleet chat you might of read it.
Only prob I have is the lack of info from the start. Why did I have to find on twitter that we had to go 23 jumps to lhal. In Sarum we had 1300 in local by the time we left lhal we was down to 800. CCP should of known 1300 pilots was going to get stuck in 10% tidi in highsec. Im sure the null guys bridged in why couldnt we. Caldari Navy cant afford a titan?
I still had fun made it all the way there and got my pod out.

I would argue that the fact ANY information that is posted on this website regarding game developments and updates is just as much irrelevant as you would need to be on forums, website, and ect. out of game means to receive information.



Again I iterate this website is not in-game and we rely very heavily on it for information, how is a eve account on twitter any differently? Yes twitter is not an eve specific themed website, BUT the twitter account for eve IS and thus a reliable source of game information. We relied heavily on it when eve went under the DDoS attack for updates, I never heard any complaints then. I must therefore assume you only complain when you do not gain from it. Which in my point of view demeans the quality of your complaints and concerns. Both of the aforementioned quotes are failed arguments, twitter is indeed a source of in-game information just as this website is...the fact that you do not like the website as a means of disseminating information is irrelevant.

Overall this thread wreaks of people going, CCP sucks, this event sucks, I couldnt attend, blah blah... In reality only a handful of people have given legitimate feedback on WHY it didn't go well. I'm not sure where to be shocked, the lack of intelligence in providing effective feedback or the apparent failure on CCP's part to execute a live event.

What CCP should do is anytime they have an event like this they should hold the event in dedicated Jove space. Talk about lore and interest in any space of the universe, Jove takes it by a mile. Have a small group of systems dedicated to hosting events like this that aren't connected to majority of CCP's Jove space. Just create 2-3 systems in a tiny constellation.

This is how it can go down, for example:

The whatever event is Friday night at 2030 EVE time, everyone who is interested in attending the event goes to that particular system and upon entering there will be a titan present. Jump everyone into Jove space with that titan at 2030 EVE time and use this opportunity to let empire players see a titan in the flesh. I know when I first started playing when I first saw a titan it blew my mind. That alone would get people to come.

In Jove, let there be a number of gates in each system, but 1 gate sends everyone back to hi-sec, and then the other simply connects to the other systems in the small constellation. And if people want to log off thinking they're going to stay in Jove space, just send everyone back manually whose still in system at the conclusion of the event, to Jita, docked with their ship. I'm confident that CCP has this power.

This all sounds a bit high maintenance and possibly some extra effort would have to be dedicated to these events, (as they should,) or rather CCP might have to clean their rooms before inviting friends over, (Jove space.) But think about the possibilities of this: If you have a regular space that you can control everything about it, and absolutely nobody has been there, regular Jove events will bring players from ever security space to see and experience Jove.

Bringing on some FC's that play the game regularly to be dedicated event FC's would be the smart move too. Charismatic, competent and trusting individuals who can balance explaining stuff to newbies and also show a good time to vets. This is probably one of the most important things for something like this. Think of it like a hunting safari.

CCP can be real creative with these events too. Loot that is incredibly rare can be dropped at these events, giving everyone incentive to go to the event. You can even have a mining event, as crazy or unpopular as it may sound, where the systems are just littered with ore sites that are packed with ABC ores for the duration of the event. Everyone has 4 hours to get as much ore as they can, and remind them to bring their industrials with them because once you leave, you can't come back in. (Ok, that idea doesn't sound too great, but something for people who mine, I'm sure there's something there..)

Imagine an event too where you can throw hundreds of anomalies between all the systems and only a handful of rats between those anomalies drop, say a Revenant BPC, and it becomes a scavenger hunt. Last idea I'll give is you can have 2 titans in the staging system. One is reprsented by A side, and the second is B side. Pick a side, stage from that titan and you fight together against the other side. Everyone jumps through in respective systems A and C, meet in the middle at B and blob it up.

I think there's a real opportunity here to capitalize on the reaction received from what happened last night. People expect a lot from events ran by CCP, and that's a good thing. Put some effort into managing and organizing an event infrastructure and you could have something that everyone looks forward to every month.



tl;dr CCP should use Jove space to have regular events in a controlled space much like the alliance tournaments where they can control the environment of any type of event, pvp or pve.

Depending on the event make bubbles illegal, and advertise that in advance. For A event, Jove space will practice high security rules. For B event, Jove space will practice null security rules. And so forth. The point should not always be to encourage high security players to do the null thing with these events. Each event should be to creatively assemble players from all walks of EVE to get together for whatever the incentive of that event is: Loot, kills, ore, games, etc.

Clearly the highsec people should have snuck off and collected all their caps and supercaps they have hidden in null (CCP rigorously hunt down highsec caps and move the one or two that are left left in high if they so much as sneeze) and then cyno-ed in .. shows how pathetic the carebears are thinking they would get NPC cap or cyno support ... should have arranged there own like null does :P

To be honest the main comments from other newer players have been long th e lines of "if that is large fleet combat it really sucks and those idiots in null can keep it" .

BTW ... I live in losec and it seems to me we get the risk of real PvP every time we undock ... certianly a lot more often than highsec (where you have carebear groups like New Order pretending that ganking is PvP) and null where they mainly carebear it up but occasionally join a corporate bun fight at allaince request.

Basically living in high is like a police state, null is like a "company mining town" where everyone crawls up the ass of the local corporate bosses and tows the company line and losec is teh wild west but unfortunately often empty.

Just wondering if there was so "little" information how the "nullseccers" got there bubbled up and were already camping the gate?? I mean with so little information, that could only mean they are psychic or hackers.

And why should the highseccers have the advantage of CCP FC's? That is hardly fair for the other team. Having a competent FC is one of the most prized things in this game, you want it you have to work for it.

This event was an event between pirates and high seccers, and suprise, the more experienced and organized group won. You got your ships blown up? Well mining and level 4 missions don't help you win pvp battles.

The only way CCP could've guaranteed safety is having some pve event in highsec, and we all know that is where the real EVE is. This was a PVP event, and the side with better PVP skills won. Even if they jumped them in with titans, do you really think that would have made a difference?