Live Events Discussion

That's freedom, not shackles. I go where I need to go. I did not fall for the slaughter. This, probably, made it even less attractive to me. The stupidity.

Reading through some of this and also Jester blogspot I only say one thing here: CCP made a big mistake - and I really hope some hundred or even thousand players quit the game to make them feel it, that's NOT HOW YOU TREAT YOUR CUSTOMER. end of story.
I just started the game and also just ended my subscription. end of story, part II.

And for all those null sec badassies who obviously enjoyed so much too slaughter an enemy who never stood a chance:
Who are you going to gank when all the newbies are alienated and the old payer base leaves eventually as 10 years in the same game are enough?
But of course it is better to have some quick money and feel good, cause your so badass

It's unfortunate that you got bent over like that but do you really think that closing your account is going to change anything? I mean i don't know but i'd be surprised if a handful of people closed there accounts over this. Also if they did than that people would have closed there accounts over the next month or two anyway.

This is eve and bad things happen and sometimes the happen to you. Yes CCP hosed you, lead you to the water and then drowned your ass in it. Close your account and that'll teach them! They've only delt with people closing there accounts over this type of thing for the last 10 years... this one event isn't going to cause any real financial damage.

Just learn from it, don't go to the next CCP event. Don't trust just anybody in the game. I mean i hate to see people leave the game over something like this but like i said you would have left anyway over the next few months.

Perhaps Eve University or Agony Unleashed would care to give CCP lessons in how to organize and run large groups of players.

Both is also a possibility.

All of this


PS: asking for ship and clone reimbursement from CCP, the decision by CCP to reimburse will effect my rl future spending.
It's not what I say but what I do, and will vote with my wallet as a customer they screwed over... again.

Good bye, don't forget to set your last 24 hours of training before you leave. Cause you aren't getting reimbursed for anything. God why do people expect to be paid for this? I mean i understand you got hosed, so has every miner that got ganked in a belt or every freighter pilot that got suicide ganked at a gate or anybody that got awox'd.

You guys got hosed i get it, but it was an event that went horribly wrong, like on a massive scale. But it was an event, they didn't introduce any new functionality that added a "kill a carebear" button to the interface or anything. You had a ship or were supposed to have a ship that you were ok with losing.

You lost the time, you could been mission running or mining or whatever it is you do and you lost trust in CCP. You already accepted the loss of the ship and the clone when you went out there, if you hadn't already planned on that then the problem is with you not CCP. But really? Your going to take your ball and go home? lol

I'm sorry dude, i understand you got pissed on but some of you are acting very childish. so go ahead and close your account.

So, this is where I cash in my annual Threadnaught ticket?


I was involved in this on the 'pirate' side, in Syndicate, in a small fleet alongside Rote, Suddenly and a couple others.

As seems to have been a common occurance, we recieved only basic information from the NPC's. We infered that the Syndicate target was in 8V-, so we kicked around there. Due to a lack of clear communication from the NPC's, however, we adopted a roam around the system and shoot everything approach. TiDi in 8V- itself was minor at worst, however other systems weren't so smooth.



Feedback from me:

* The NPC factions went about their own business, and expected the players to sort their own affairs out. It's clear that a fair few players on the Empire side expected to be directed by the NPC's, so perhaps in the future CCP should be more clear on this. Something like a statement to the effect of 'We [the NPC's] will be focusing on our fleet action, you [the players] will need to find those amongst you to lead and direct your efforts'. No hand-holding or insulation from the often harsh nature of EvE, but a simple 'sort your own **** out' would have helped those Empire folks to be a bit more prepared.



* Why did the Empire fleets have to initially assemble so far off? Why not closer (Stacmon, for example)? TiDi is clearly to be expected when that volume of pilots travel, so next time minimise the impact by reducing the distance they have to travel. Also, perhaps something that could be linked to the aforementioned 'players, you need to lead yourself' statement, is an advisory that TiDi (or spacial distortions, etc) is likely to be present. Again, I'm not saying you need to hold their hands, but a little information about what they could expect might have helped.



Those two points aside, well done for running an event that had two seperate targets, at the same time, involving 1000's of players. Next time however, a little more thought should be applied regarding the logistical aspect of the event.

Hal.

I was lucky enough to have a FC. And comms (it failed over 4-5 times but I persisted and was one of the few who had). We knew about the camp in Doril. When we knew what was happening, we all went for suicide as a better option for even moar boredom. A kill. Get podded. If you could.

PS: here is a way to better understand the grievances

http://jestertrek.blogspot.nl/2013/11/backfire.html

The attackers expected a CCP-run live event. Instead to net it out, the attacker's position is that they...
•were left by the event organizers to fend for themselves;
•were not given adequate instructions on what to do;
•were not organized into effective fleets;
•were not led by trustworthy FCs; and,
•that CCP in essence led a couple of thousand EVE players into a deathtrap from which there was no escape.
And then to add insult to injury, CCP subjected them to 23 jumps of 10% TiDi.