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Probably the WORST event I've wasted my time on in my 10 years of EVE ...

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Killerjock
Von Neumann Industries
#401 - 2013-11-08 11:02:14 UTC
Maximus Aerelius wrote:
Most pilots just ended in TiDi hell trying to get from some point in space someone had posted from some other channel or Twitter to the various channels that were supposed to be being used to co-ordinate an all Emperical Navy forces and capsuleer strike force.

Everyone I flew with was in something they could afford to lose and had JC'd into blank clones as most people know this. Don't come across as being 1337 and crap-posting just to feel superior.

The forum rage is about the lack of information on the event and during the event (if we can even still call it that). It's mostly not about the losses but about the information, formation and how that information was delivered etc.

These kind of "events" are generated every single day in eve from pilots just getting together. We don't need CCP to gear that kind of content, we do that already. This was touted as being something of epic proportions and all it was was an example of a lot of people being messed about.


This. +1
Titus Balls
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#402 - 2013-11-08 11:05:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Titus Balls
OK from my perspective - this was a terrible event from CCP

I live in lowsec and I love PvP - My sec status is near enough -10, and I went to FD- and 8J fully expecting to die - so please don't say I'm a highsec carebear just crying here.

My main issues are:


  • Before the event, there was no communication from CCP - no in-game channel that everyone could join to get *any* information
  • The staging system of FD - A well known goon camped system, with them getting at least a days notice that massive fleets of people would be coming though
  • Sitting around for ages waiting, with local being spammed worse than Jita - then the 'NPC' turning up and trying to see their message in local amongst the goon and BNI spam - no one had any idea what was going on.
  • Telling everyone to pile into a location, in null sec, with tonnes of dictors/hictors - basically meaning that it turned into a TiDi nightmare with no one having any idea what was going on
  • Being shot at by the very Vindicators we were supposed to be protecting


As I say I fully expected to die at this event - but the planning and execution was terrible on CCPs part. It feels to me like a CCP goon thought they would have a laugh with their mates and organise a clusterf**k event to bring lots of kills to them.
ArchenTheGreat
Interstellar Clone Transport
#403 - 2013-11-08 11:11:03 UTC
I really do not understand what was the point of the event. Was it for PVPers or for carebears? For releplayers? For new players or vets?

I joined one of the CCP events few years ago. We traveled few jumps reading some event chat in local hinting some opposition from empire (it was Guristas event). Finally we left hisec and event ended in lowsec. CCP left gang leaving FC position empty so we took the lead, warped everyone to planet to avoid guns and slaughtered all hi sec carebears in their faction fit Ravens. It was fun to us, not so much for them. No tidi and fleet was like 100-150 people so mostly no lag.

Yesterday we formed alliance fleet in Sarum Prime only to get info through Twitter (sic!) that we should move 23 jumps in tidi to another staging point. We chose lowsec route (still 16 jumps) to avoid congestion with hisec players. Unfortunately none thought about reinforcing systems on route so we had 10% tidi all the way.

When we arrived at losec border we got intel about large camp on the other side of gate. Large bubbles, sniping fleet at position, usual nullsec stuff. I jumped into such fight many times before but in properly organized and fit fleet. Our fleet was organized but as a fun event it was more or less random "kitchen sink" fleet.

Our FC smartly decided that we should have some fun despite CCP efforts to ruin the evening and we got some nice fights at station and gates in lowsec.

So what's the problem you ask? I had my fun after all.

Problem is I don't need to wait for CCP to get in fleet if I am alliance player. I do it almost every day. And when I do I know the purpose of it and I have some control over it. I think from the alliance player point of few this event was complete waste of time. Except maybe for people looting fields in Doril.

From carebear point of view it's even worse. They did not see capital ships, they didn't have even slight chance to shoot anything, they died from alpha in a bubble after travelling for hours in slowmo.

Few good advices for CCP:
- make events more often so few people will attend them
- make several events at the same time to split people around EVE
- if you make event for carebears stay in hisec
- if you want carebears to shoot something bring CCP ships, titans and capitals in hisec are nice targets to shoot
- if you make events for nullsec players... don't. Every nullsec event will end in massive clusterfuck with bubbled gates and fleets in position long before you jump into the system. We have it without your help.
Abraham Nalelmir
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#404 - 2013-11-08 11:12:01 UTC
Not sure if I can understand how the nullsec people understand what the people of highsec understand about what CCP understand the idea about this event...

In Go.. ECM I trust

OldWolf69
EVE-RO
Goonswarm Federation
#405 - 2013-11-08 11:13:23 UTC  |  Edited by: OldWolf69
Yall did go there like sheeps.
Stupidly thinking CCP will lead the flood of sheeps like their Sheperd.
Oooops, red cro...wtf? Red skulls?
Pop pop pop pop
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Seriously now. What did you guys think? Harry Forever killed the Goons, unified Hisec, and now walks on water direction CCP event to gather wonderfull goodies from NPC wrecks, in some nullblock backyard, wich block btw did run crying when they saw the glory or the Hisec Publord Swarm arising trough the gate into Doril?
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CCP knew what will happen. I bet they had a good laugh. So did we. Lol
embrel
BamBam Inc.
#406 - 2013-11-08 11:13:36 UTC
Lychton Kondur wrote:
cochar Andedare wrote:
Fleet left staging system when destination was announced. TDI all the way, event was over when we arrived.
Total waste of my time. Words fail me. First event. Last event.



Words don't fail you. You've failed yourself.

Harden the **** up.


I love how Brave Collective's in here feeling cool.

guess even tiny successes feel great if they're the only ones.

how people can come "uuuh, the tears" when there was a obvious ****-up is beyond me.

embrel
BamBam Inc.
#407 - 2013-11-08 11:15:58 UTC
Nuker Zero wrote:
Sebastien LeReparteur wrote:
Lychton Kondur wrote:
cochar Andedare wrote:
Fleet left staging system when destination was announced. TDI all the way, event was over when we arrived.
Total waste of my time. Words fail me. First event. Last event.



Words don't fail you. You've failed yourself.

Harden the **** up.



We are Grrrrr, we Are bigg!!!!

We kill bunch of carebears look!

Oh wait... You haven't done anything new... again... CCP did it for you... So... 0/10

I mean how hard can it be to click f1 when there is no real challenge...

In your home turf...

I luagh at your leet skillz



And I laugh at your killboard.


I once read that the Brave Collective is a place where newbs can learn EVE.

based on this, I'd guess that must be another entity.
Witch Bernkastel
Perkone
Caldari State
#408 - 2013-11-08 11:19:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Witch Bernkastel
Jendrick Vayle wrote:
Not telling them that the final objective was in Curse until we were almost at ihal was a bad idea

If the exact point of destination was announced in Sarum Prime, a fortiori in the dev blog, the amount of pilots in Doril would crash the node.

Jendrick Vayle wrote:
most people are acting like that was known from the get go. It wasn't.

It was.
http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/empire-navies-put-out-call-for-capsuleer-assistance/
We ask that any capsuleer who wishes to protect civilized space gather up at our two rally points in Sarum Prime and Meves on November 7 for departure at 18:50.
Some believe it is a new assault on Sansha’s Nation
while others have claimed it has something to do with the unusual explosion detected several days ago
http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/mysterious-explosion-detected-in-syndicate/
An explosion emanated from the YFN-UN constellation in Syndicate
http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/empire-navies-expand-call-to-action-against-enemy-forces/
We fear we will have to deal with considerably greater opposition than originally expected

You were told that you're going to null sec. You were told that you're going to die there, because CCP employees suck in pvp and die miserably every time. Yet you decided that given the fact it was announced officially, a miracle will happen and you will be teleportated right to the destination and bad guys will not come for you so you can shoot helpless structures cheerfully. CCP didn't make that miracle happen and everything went how it should be any other day. What a bad guy CCP!
Titus Balls
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#409 - 2013-11-08 11:20:04 UTC
OldWolf69 wrote:

CCP knew what will happen. I bet they had a good laugh. So did we. Lol


I have absolutely no doubt about this. It's probably payback for all the moaning about CCP giving out free IWatch Scorpions to SOMER
KaRa DaVuT
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#410 - 2013-11-08 11:22:27 UTC
Well

Economy wont get bigger without consuming resources.. And who will buy new shiny PVE ships If you dont loose them like this..

Hell, your losses will help New Eden economy to get bigger.

Support the Empires even after your death

Holiness is in right action and courage on behalf of those who cannot defend themselves, and goodness. What God desires is in your heart and on your mind... And what you decide to do every day, makes you - not your race - a good man - or not.

Abraham Nalelmir
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#411 - 2013-11-08 11:22:59 UTC
I just want to understand something:

What does "you know this even is not for highsec noobs only?" with the fact that there was only 1 side who was shooting with no single resistance from the other side?

Nullsec "noobs" who fought in that "glorious" gate fight were sinking in their own happiness tears because they "won" on the "noobs carebears who came from highsec thinking that event is for them only!!!"...

NO YOU ARE WRONG, because everyone was expecting to die, but not in this fuckup on the gate, it is like the thing when you fit an insta-lock nado and sit killing every noobship in a starter system and say: "WOW LOOK AT MY KILL BOARD!".

And yeah, don't tell me welcome to null or pvp... I know both.

In Go.. ECM I trust

Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#412 - 2013-11-08 11:23:54 UTC
So, here is my problem with the event.

Even before the logistical and mechanical issues arose, even before the TiDi and the funneling of a couple of thousand idiot PvE pilots who decided this would be a PvE event and fit accordingly into the meatgrinder that is Doril, the empires got an in character thread giving them a lore consistant motivation to go get involved.

No such attempt was even made for the pirates. A general call was made that just said "Hey, you want to shoot at CONCORD, pirates? Go here!"

But here is the thing: The pirate factions in this game are not a bloc. They don't work together much, and some of them hate each other more than they hate CONCORD. I had to piece together through knowing the staging systems they announced that this was going to be an Angel/Serpentis event, and that I therefore had no reason to get involved, either IC or OOC.

There was never any explanation given as to why I should go there, other than to shoot the, and I quote, 'good guys of new eden'.

But there are no good guys in new eden. The empires certainly don't count. Not individually or collectively. The Angels and Serpentis aren't. The Sansha aren't. The Guristas and Blood Raiders aren't. The EoM aren't. It's certainly not the Sisters of EVE or the Jovians.

This is not a game that deals with good and evil. It is a game that deals with strength and power. From a lore perspective, if there is ANYONE who comes out of this defending CONCORD as an entity, I'm going to feel free to laugh in their faces.

And that means that one of the crutches for getting hi-sec to participate meaningfully in these events in the future has been snapped, too.
OldWolf69
EVE-RO
Goonswarm Federation
#413 - 2013-11-08 11:28:53 UTC  |  Edited by: OldWolf69
Titus Balls wrote:
OldWolf69 wrote:

CCP knew what will happen. I bet they had a good laugh. So did we. Lol


I have absolutely no doubt about this. It's probably payback for all the moaning about CCP giving out free IWatch Scorpions to SOMER

Lolorly?
"I live in lowsec and I love PvP - My sec status is near enough -10, and I went to FD- and 8J fully expecting to die - so please don't say I'm a highsec carebear just crying here."
This really made my day.
Genii Cucullati
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#414 - 2013-11-08 11:32:34 UTC
You went into nullsec.

"Sec" stands for "security."

"Null" stands for "zero."

Live event or no, you went into a region that literally had no security.

It's nullsec, gentlemen. The gods will not save you.
Genii Cucullati
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#415 - 2013-11-08 11:33:56 UTC
Abraham Nalelmir wrote:


And yeah, don't tell me welcome to null or pvp... I know both.


Welcome to null.

Welcome to PVP.
Carnip
Kaer Industries
#416 - 2013-11-08 11:34:05 UTC
OldWolf69 wrote:
Titus Balls wrote:
OldWolf69 wrote:

CCP knew what will happen. I bet they had a good laugh. So did we. Lol


I have absolutely no doubt about this. It's probably payback for all the moaning about CCP giving out free IWatch Scorpions to SOMER

Lolorly?
"I live in lowsec and I love PvP - My sec status is near enough -10, and I went to FD- and 8J fully expecting to die - so please don't say I'm a highsec carebear just crying here."
This really made my day.


Who is this kid from ******* SMA (lol) with terrible killboard record? Why are you acting so tough now?
OldWolf69
EVE-RO
Goonswarm Federation
#417 - 2013-11-08 11:36:51 UTC
Carnip wrote:
OldWolf69 wrote:
Titus Balls wrote:
OldWolf69 wrote:

CCP knew what will happen. I bet they had a good laugh. So did we. Lol


I have absolutely no doubt about this. It's probably payback for all the moaning about CCP giving out free IWatch Scorpions to SOMER

Lolorly?
"I live in lowsec and I love PvP - My sec status is near enough -10, and I went to FD- and 8J fully expecting to die - so please don't say I'm a highsec carebear just crying here."
This really made my day.


Who is this kid from ******* SMA (lol) with terrible killboard record? Why are you acting so tough now?

Oh you baddie...Lol
Jack Mayhem
Kaer Industries
#418 - 2013-11-08 11:38:10 UTC
OldWolf69 wrote:
Oh you baddie...Lol


Says someone in a crap alliance and crap at pee-vee-pee.

If you got to shoot some defenceless carebears, there is no need to act so cool now. Calm down.
Gabriel Asher
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#419 - 2013-11-08 11:38:42 UTC
Like lambs to the slaughter.

I am actually not regretting missing this event, from the way it was handled, my time in Nullsec was actually enjoyable, especially during the fighting between the CFC and IT Alliance.

The last thing I wanted to bear witness to was a hopeless slaughter, Better to have goodfights than curbstomps in my opinion.
OldWolf69
EVE-RO
Goonswarm Federation
#420 - 2013-11-08 11:43:30 UTC
Jack Mayhem wrote:
OldWolf69 wrote:
Oh you baddie...Lol


Says someone in a crap alliance and crap at pee-vee-pee.

If you got to shoot some defenceless carebears, there is no need to act so cool now. Calm down.

You kind sir seem a bit butthurt. Reading all your crusade on forums...eh, maybe not just a bit. You should relax, calm down. It's just a game. CCP did sh*t on ppl's fun? So what? Lol