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CCP!? WTF!? Sarum Prime to Ihal? For WHAT!?

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Black Ivan Bakshonen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-11-07 19:00:50 UTC
Why would you tell us to stage 16 jumps from the actual staging system? WHY!?!
Board of Directors
Doomheim
#2 - 2013-11-07 19:02:34 UTC
Black Ivan Bakshonen wrote:
Why would you tell us to stage 16 jumps from the actual staging system? WHY!?!


HOW DARE YOU MAKE THIS MAN JUMP THROUGH STAR GATES!
Black Ivan Bakshonen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-11-07 19:03:22 UTC
^^ he gets it.
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#4 - 2013-11-07 19:07:40 UTC
Board of Directors wrote:
Black Ivan Bakshonen wrote:
Why would you tell us to stage 16 jumps from the actual staging system? WHY!?!


HOW DARE YOU MAKE THIS MAN JUMP THROUGH STAR GATES!


How about because quite literally a thousand plus pilots tried to get into Sraum and wasted time when CCP could have announced the high sec jump off into null sec hours ago.
Thadrian Bhelas
Eightfold Arrow
#5 - 2013-11-07 19:11:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Thadrian Bhelas
I think CCP is unclear on the meaning of staging point. In English the term implies that the point in question will be a good place to stock supplies for the coming action. 23 %@%$ jumps away is not a good staging point.

To make everyone involved waste an hour flying that distance with an average TIDI 0f 24% is a terrible idea CCP. I'm not sure what your motives are, but if you are trying to turn people away from live events you will succeed.

p.s. I logged in, wrote this and posted it while warping across Hama. Still not done...

p.p.s. I am changing my estimate of travel time to 2.5 hours and average TIDI to 13%
okst666
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-11-07 19:11:34 UTC
@CCP: Plz Open a Wormhole from Barira to Ihal...

[X] < Nail here for new monitor

Thadrian Bhelas
Eightfold Arrow
#7 - 2013-11-07 19:20:15 UTC
Thadrian Bhelas wrote:
I think CCP is unclear on the meaning of staging point. In English the term implies that the point in question will be a good place to stock supplies for the coming action. 23 %@%$ jumps away is not a good staging point.

To make everyone involved waste an hour flying that distance with an average TIDI 0f 24% is a terrible idea CCP. I'm not sure what your motives are, but if you are trying to turn people away from live events you will succeed.

p.s. I logged in, wrote this and posted it while warping across Hama. Still not done...

p.p.s. I am changing my estimate of travel time to 2.5 hours and average TIDI to 13%


kk, to hell with this. I told myself after wasting time staging ships in Luminaire that I wasn't goin to waste time on these again. Then last night I got 2 BS ready in Sarum, and clone jumped to be ready. Haa haa, the joke is on me and the 1000+ other pilots who showed up where we were asked to.
Rhnra Pahineh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2013-11-07 19:30:40 UTC
Good job filtering out people for the event ccp. Really. If you wanted less people to join, you just had to ask.
Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
Tactical-Retreat
#9 - 2013-11-07 19:31:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Altrue
That's a really bad organisation. It's 35 minuts from the beggining of the event and I have lost a ship with one account, my two others, taking two different way, and both still traveling at 10% tidi and haven't reached their destination yet.

I guess the GM teleported himself at Ihal and started the event without waiting for us, because that's the only way he could have gotten here before me.

So yes, I don't know who's the genius who thought that moving 1500+ ppl through 18 jumps shorter or 22 jumps safer would be wise, I don't know who thought that it would be wise to make people from Amarr militia go through matarr space to reach the target destination, but that's really BRILLIANT. Evil

All we get from following these events is lag, losses, and a complete absence of organization. I really recommend CCP to reconsider the role of their players into their events, because for the moment I feel like CCP does not care about us, players kind enough to attend to events announced 24 hours ago.

PS : Actually that's almost insulting to dedicate time to come (not counting the time ahead of the beggining just to BE in the system) to just have to give up because the fleet departed without us.

Next time let devs actually playing eve, knowing the reality of the game, organize this kind of stuff, please...

Sorry for my rudeness, but obviously none of these problems require more than a bit of common sense to be solved, so...

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Akaneko
Mischievous Mentats
#10 - 2013-11-07 19:48:24 UTC
I for one cannot imagine a SINGLE CCP employee EVER saying that this was a successful event. Ever. I live in Null and love fighting there. I agreed to go to this shin-dig with my little brother.

Someone more eloquent than I said that the concept of "staging area" was lost in translation. I think, apparently, so is the idea that CCP understands it's own mechanics regarding vast numbers of pilots in systems that aren't tuned to have that level of activity.

I told one of my pilots who was complaining about 28% Tidi that he was lucky. I never saw anything more that 10%,

So my hat's off to a totally failed live event for many thousands of pilots. I think it can simply be summed up in a single word.

Fail.
Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
Tactical-Retreat
#11 - 2013-11-07 19:52:39 UTC
Akaneko wrote:
I think it can simply be summed up in a single word.

Fail.


I would, too, say a word that begins with a "F"...

But not the same, because a fail would imply waiting until players are able to catch up. It would have been boring, but not insulting.

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Jason Redfort
Optimistic Wasteland Inc.
Fraternity.
#12 - 2013-11-07 19:58:35 UTC
Yeah, was the 2nd and last live event i do. The Luminare was good but this is crap and very bad planed. I hope that some of the ppl which planned this get a written warning.
Kasimir Wulf
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2013-11-07 19:59:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Kasimir Wulf
Black Ivan Bakshonen wrote:
Why would you tell us to stage 16 jumps from the actual staging system? WHY!?!



just be glad you didn't do the 22 jumps to Ihal, wait an hour to suffer through 10% tidi through 2 of the 6 jumps to dest then get kicked and not be allowed to reconnect because they locked down all those nodes..


nice work CCP. now i remember why i don't participate in their **** poor event's. so now i have to wait 2+ hours just so i can reconnect to my character and go back to what i was originally doing before i wasted 3 hours of my life for this crap.
Raszagal Thara
Perkone
Caldari State
#14 - 2013-11-07 20:22:58 UTC
Ihal was one thing - but next dest RMOC- (nullsec) - every gate hellcamped - beeing directed by some "yellow" guy in local directly into a goon bubble .. I'm utterly impressed by the level of ccp-screw up ..
Marsan
#15 - 2013-11-07 21:05:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Marsan
These sorts of things make me less sad they don't do events in the US time zones....

Former forum cheerleader CCP, now just a grumpy small portion of the community.

Kommando Kodiak
Curiously Incompetent
#16 - 2013-11-08 03:28:57 UTC
I went through the whole thing, from sarum to ihal, all the while watching the CCP twitter for updates in the hopes of them announcing a 3rd point to go to or if the event had ended. They announced nothing so alot of people following that thought the event was still green lit waste of 2 hours it really was.

I came up to sarum from hentogaira and had to do 40 something jumps back all for nothing.....

Sound advice: Live events are a waste of time
Sahriah BloodStone
State War Academy
Caldari State
#17 - 2013-11-08 03:44:21 UTC
Good forces stage in sarum
Bad forces stage in utopia

We're attacking pirates so that means low sec/null sec

Where did you think we were going? Was blatenly obvious we were going to them

Edit: Can't spell

Sahriah Bloodstone

No.Mercy // Triumvirate

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Lipbite
Express Hauler
#18 - 2013-11-08 03:47:46 UTC
Just remember to jump into opposite direction next time CCP invite you to join "live event" - to save your time (dilation).
Sulior
Rondac's Reasearch and Testing Inc.
#19 - 2013-11-08 03:48:12 UTC
Raszagal Thara wrote:
Ihal was one thing - but next dest RMOC- (nullsec) - every gate hellcamped - beeing directed by some "yellow" guy in local directly into a goon bubble .. I'm utterly impressed by the level of ccp-screw up ..



It wasn't a screw up. You REALLY think they gave these guys a 30-40 min head start on gate camps on accident? We just know that they have alts in the alliances over there.
Renkari
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2013-11-08 06:17:21 UTC
Altrue wrote:
But not the same, because a fail would imply waiting until players are able to catch up. It would have been boring, but not insulting.


They waited for around 20 minutes until there were ~750 pilots in Ihal, and CCP had their volunteer fleet full, I think.
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