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Probably the WORST event I've wasted my time on in my 10 years of EVE ...

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Griznatch
Distinguished Gentleman's Boating Club
Domain Research and Mining Inst.
#321 - 2013-11-08 02:03:14 UTC
Angry rant about CCP incompetence. Furious response to obvious troll bait. Repeated rant about CCP incompetence. Threats of unsubbing a bazillion accounts. Demands of refunded ships/skillpoints/gametime. Unnecessary capitalization and punctuation.


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Elfi Wolfe
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#322 - 2013-11-08 02:05:07 UTC
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
So... since the null alliances sided with the Pirates, I guess they'll be persona non grata in high-sec now?


Nah Concord will leave them alone. and Empire ships.. are meah.

"Please point to the place on the doll where the carebear touched you."

Colman Dietmar
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#323 - 2013-11-08 02:12:16 UTC
Well, they say that the players make EVE the great game that it is. I suppose today we have witnessed exactly what they mean by that.
Bob Bedala
#324 - 2013-11-08 02:13:25 UTC
Prelate Hucel-Ge wrote:
haha look at all these dumb hisec pubbies whining about tidi and bad mechanics
welcome to EVE


There's a lot to like about Eve, but I think your version of Eve is terrible.

Some things puzzle me;

Why do people play Eve in massive TiDi? Do you play racing games on a ZX81? Do you stick PVA glue to your chessboard? No. It's a terrible game experience.

Given that, why did CCP lead a lot of pilots (oblivious to both the danger, and how their game doesn't scale) into RZR staging? This is akin to going to bed with CCP for the first time, for them to wink in the morning and say "hey, check out my genital warts". You wanna go there again?

Who did this help? I was out, but it seems the hisec ppl got a terrible game experience even if they enjoyed the eventual explosions, the nullsec ppl got a game experience akin to playing Call of Duty, sniping noobs with a thermal scope down a corridor at one frame per second with a modded controller.

I understand some people dig schadenfreude, indeed some poor souls claim this is the main enjoyment they get from Eve. But how many hiseccers would want to be on the other end of that camp after that thrilling demonstration?

If they wanted to go to null they would be there already. WTF CCP, how is this increasing your playerbase?
Bodb Derg
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#325 - 2013-11-08 02:29:47 UTC
Wow. You people need to chill out a bit. Name one other game company that would do anything like this for their players/. Yes it could have been done better but Jesus people .. .take a chill pill.

Hi. I'm Bodb Derg. I'm salty about links.

Talia Satori
Doomheim
#326 - 2013-11-08 02:33:04 UTC
I just want to know what the actual event was... I had a clean clone and a cheap Drake, no harm no foul for me Smile I'm just sad that I still don't know why I spent all day warping around only to die in a gate-camp I could have avoided.

Good job to the null guys on the camp! You guys did a great job!
Phoenix Jones
Small-Arms Fire
#327 - 2013-11-08 02:39:44 UTC
Bodb Derg wrote:
Wow. You people need to chill out a bit. Name one other game company that would do anything like this for their players/. Yes it could have been done better but Jesus people .. .take a chill pill.


if the crashed the server, it would have been an improvement...

Its more than just ships people lost, its faith in the developers, leaders of the events, and the company as a whole.

There was no point in calling people out to log in at 3 in the afternoon to go run around highsec in time dialation for an hour, then go into a gatecamp where they had no hope of either escape, combat, or defense.

It was a turkey shoot. There was 0, nada, nothing the people jumping into that camp could have done, as they had 0 warning there would be one, no time to coordinate and try to make a stand, and those who were coordinated, were stuck trying to get there via time dilation.

Was TD the issue, nope.
Was the gatecamp the issue, nope.
Was CCP's direction the issue, yup.

They have said next to nothing so far, as they are either attempting to wait out the rage, or determining who will take ownership of the event.

Yaay!!!!

Judas Lonestar
Stryker Industries
Stryker Group
#328 - 2013-11-08 03:00:29 UTC
Bodb Derg wrote:
Wow. You people need to chill out a bit. Name one other game company that would do anything like this for their players/. Yes it could have been done better but Jesus people .. .take a chill pill.


EA comes to mind.
Maaloc
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#329 - 2013-11-08 03:01:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Maaloc
Phoenix Jones wrote:

It was a turkey shoot. There was 0, nada, nothing the people jumping into that camp could have done, as they had 0 warning there would be one, no time to coordinate and try to make a stand, and those who were coordinated, were stuck trying to get there via time dilation..

Zero warning? Seriously? You don't have to be a genius to realize that null-secs + this equals camps and player pirates.

As this guy from the Razor alliance said, did you expect candies in Doril?
PrincessButtercup
Miners of Moria Corp
#330 - 2013-11-08 03:01:45 UTC
all I can say is WoWP launches next week
Thye
Sure Thing Logistics
#331 - 2013-11-08 03:07:04 UTC
I joined this event on the Empire side. Jumping through 20 TiDi systems was tedious, but that didn't matter, because there was something exciting on the other end. However, the NPC/CCP FC ordered everyone through the gate before I got there, and then appeared to give questionable orders thereafter. When I eventually arrived in Ihal, the whole thing was over, so I just turned around and went home.

Had the NPC FC waited until they had the full fleet ready in Ihal, and then sent everyone through guns blazing, it probably would have been a more exciting event for everyone concerned. Yes, we may have died in large numbers still, but we would have got some decent kills in first. A smaller group could have used this as cover to move on towards the objective.

The NPC FC's orders were bad. I don't know whether this was deliberate on CCP's part, but the response is the same either way. In future events, don't listen to NPC FCs. If those of us in Empire space want to enjoy these events, we're going to need to get organised, with competent player FCs giving the orders, and large numbers of us ready to follow them.
Liam Li
Kings.Guard.
#332 - 2013-11-08 03:08:22 UTC
Empire/Highsec people........... Welcome to the life of Nullsec. You guys strut around smug and whatnot in lowsec and null under conditions of a live event and expect that there is 0% risk involved of losing your ship and pod and expect that there will be no time dilation?

"Did I do That"....Nice Corpse

Jaded One
State War Academy
Caldari State
#333 - 2013-11-08 03:11:36 UTC
Jean-Paul Hutchinson wrote:
I think its funny how you low/null sec corps are gloating. Had CCP waited for the 2,000 pilots on the way to join the OP, you wouldnt have stud a chance


You are very mistaken

this ragtag group of 2000 noobs and carebears would have been massacred. its called range control.
Kraschyn Thek'athor
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#334 - 2013-11-08 03:13:47 UTC
Maaloc wrote:
I

All these posts from people who learned the hard way what an organized null-sec fleet is made my morning.



Sorry, you are an Idiot. A prove that your recruting officer was right, that you are smart enough for F1 pvp and would do this monkey job easily.

The Nullsecs were organized, because they are attuned to be organized.
The Highsec Corps and Alliances are smaller, there are no coalitions.
If you are either from CCP or an 0.0 alliance and don't recognize this difference, you should quit this game.

If CCP would have done that right, they would have said.
"This is a PVP event, please use PvP ships, we are to lazy to organize FC teams, please organise. You have 24 hours".
And I guess we would have seen some shining moments of the Eve Community.
FW FCs, retired FCs, junior FCs stepping up and organising.
And when I see those numbers of the Highsecis, even without streamlined fitting, that would have been a blast of an fight.
Such a clash would have been an epic moment. Worth telling, worth fighting, for both sides. Bringing pilots into PvP, giving them fun.
This was poop **** pvp. (and I was in one of the organised fleets)


I cannot blame the Highsecis for the underinformativ posting for this event from CCP.
Every drunken gank night fc I ever travelled with, gave better pre-organisation and execution.
Doctor Fabulous MD
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#335 - 2013-11-08 03:14:32 UTC
in the immortal words of Roger Alan Wade

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzksL5-jVbk
Cpt Tenguru37
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#336 - 2013-11-08 03:19:36 UTC
I was in the carebear fleet... Worst fleet I have ever been in. You all were given the opportunity to bail before we jumped into the camp its not like no one knew it was there. No one calling targets, no logi, kitchen sink fleet including shuttles.
The event was a disaster but I still had fun what did you all think was going to happen lol. Learn to burn outa bubbles faster!
The major screw up was ccp changing staging systems we went from 1300 to 800 when we left. But hey I made it there got a few shots off at the structure.
GF RZR :)
Jaded One
State War Academy
Caldari State
#337 - 2013-11-08 03:20:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Jaded One
ARCHANGEL DOWN.. I call Final Blow!



http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=20374268
Corvald Tyrska
Valknetra
#338 - 2013-11-08 03:20:22 UTC
The NPC FCs were playing in character very well, i.e. Empire navy commanders who don't give a crap about the capsuleers following their instructions.

As I said in another thread on this if you lost your ship to a gatecamp it is entirely your fault, not the CCP FC. Would you fly a battleship through the Doril gate on any other day without scouting it out? If so come back tomorrow, there will be plenty of people waiting there to say hi.

The NPC FC gave instructions as to the destination. How you flew there was up to you. Taking the shortest path through Low/Null sec, from High sec, without scouting it out was stupid regardless of what the NPC said to do. If you plan to fly through these sort of systems at least use a cloaky ship otherwise go around or go in co-ordinated and prepared.

If you are going to completely entrust the safety of your ship and pod to a stranger in local chat, NPC Actor or not, who is telling you to jump into a Low/Null sec system then you deserve to lose it. I flew in a stealth bomber because I expected camps and trouble and I was able to fly through four of them without incident. Many other players flew around the camps to the destination systems.

All this event shows is that most EVE players need someone else to micromanage them and tell them how to think and act, otherwise they just fly to their deaths like a bunch of drunken lemmings.
Maaloc
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#339 - 2013-11-08 03:25:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Maaloc
Kraschyn Thek'athor wrote:

Sorry, you are an Idiot. A prove that your recruting officer was right, that you are smart enough for F1 pvp and would do this monkey job easily.

Awww. But sorry, you are kinda mistaken: I come from a roaming alliance where pressing f1 and following every FC order is not that common. Plus I'm more of a logistics guy.

Quote:
The Nullsecs were organized, because they are attuned to be organized.
The Highsec Corps and Alliances are smaller, there are no coalitions.

Sounds like you wanna correct a mistake in my words, but you just said the same thing.
Nullsecers were organized, they ignored the CCP's FCs and formed their own smaller fleets.
Empire carebears who went on this event were nothing than a random rabble and they just met their well-expected sad end.

Quote:
"This is a PVP event, please use PvP ships, we are to lazy to organize FC teams, please organise. You have 24 hours".
And I guess we would have seen some shining moments of the Eve Community.
FW FCs, retired FCs, junior FCs stepping up and organising.
And when I see those numbers of the Highsecis, even without streamlined fitting, that would have been a blast of an fight.
Such a clash would have been an epic moment. Worth telling, worth fighting, for both sides. Bringing pilots into PvP, giving them fun.

You do realize that this would never happen?
Elfi Wolfe
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#340 - 2013-11-08 03:27:56 UTC
Corvald Tyrska wrote:
The NPC FCs were playing in character very well, i.e. Empire navy commanders who don't give a crap about the capsuleers following their instructions.

As I said in another thread on this if you lost your ship to a gatecamp it is entirely your fault, not the CCP FC. Would you fly a battleship through the Doril gate on any other day without scouting it out? If so come back tomorrow, there will be plenty of people waiting there to say hi.

The NPC FC gave instructions as to the destination. How you flew there was up to you. Taking the shortest path through Low/Null sec, from High sec, without scouting it out was stupid regardless of what the NPC said to do. If you plan to fly through these sort of systems at least use a cloaky ship otherwise go around or go in co-ordinated and prepared.

If you are going to completely entrust the safety of your ship and pod to a stranger in local chat, NPC Actor or not, who is telling you to jump into a Low/Null sec system then you deserve to lose it. I flew in a stealth bomber because I expected camps and trouble and I was able to fly through four of them without incident. Many other players flew around the camps to the destination systems.

All this event shows is that most EVE players need someone else to micromanage them and tell them how to think and act, otherwise they just fly to their deaths like a bunch of drunken lemmings.


Yep shows I'm a loser and worthless. but then why would I care.

"Please point to the place on the doll where the carebear touched you."