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Probably the WORST event I've wasted my time on in my 10 years of EVE ...

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Anubis Aureus
Aucaedu Unlimited
#301 - 2013-11-08 00:42:53 UTC
Lots of posts in this thread and i read them all.
For me, i went quit early in my Prophecy to Sarum Prime, "fleet-fitted" with omnit-buffertank as its always usefull in larger fleets and i joined a more or less well organized armor fleet in Sarum. We had some issues with eve voice (as usual :D) and then went to several TS-servers. Later a rookie out of a helpchannal joined us and problems became obvious: she had 2 medium repper on her myrmidon. A quit young character with not that much knowledge of eve. When i joined the fleet we had 1 (!) logi while we had about 80 players of all kind. Quit few did not even know what a logi is. Broadcast? Never heard.

I'm pretty sure lots of people had such moments. Either way, after CCP announced the first destination on twitter (!!!! srsyl? O_o) i just flew straight over (23! jumps? srsly? O_o) there after i was sure, its not just fake (TIDI with not even 100 pilots in system?! SRSLY? O_O) I've put several rookies and friends of mine in a seperate channel to inform them about news and whats going on at all besides tell them some basics. It was also mentioned that it might be better to travel trough lowsec, because this route would be shorter, but there was a red huge red gang so i told them not to go this way. At my arrival i decided to join an armor fleet right there because mine was stuck some dozen jumps away. It was lead by the Caldari FC (which ofc course makes so much sense for a amor fleet ... wait, what?). By then i was still in contact with "my noobs". Then the new route to the new system (RMOC-W) was mentioned and i went with the lemmingtrain.

Most newer player taking part in this event thought they might be part of something BIG. Something IMPORTANT and GREAT. The fewest of them did expect what actually happend. It was quit early clear, that there would be a large gatecamp at the other site in Doril (from time to time a leeroy is handy, you know? :P) and it was also obvious, that there were PLENTY of pilots not even close to the stagingsystem. So FC said: jump in. People did. Not just the armor fleet. Well i waited a bit, because i was expecting the worst. FC had mentioned not to fight, and just leave the bubble with your mwd. Look at the killboads and count all those ships who not even had a MWD fitted. And of course new bubbles were launched, so screw the "we were afk, just our drones did the job" babbling. While some people fought back, most just did without any idea what actually happend. I managed to break trough to RMOC-W and i guess i dont have to say to much about the situation over there.
At the end i lost my prophecy at a gatecamp when i tried to escape, at least taking one destryoer with me. And what should i say? That as the best part of the whole so called event.

Whoever the Caldari FC was: you did a horrible job. You left about 160players-fleet without a word, without any information. The last information we had was "break trough, kill the station!" with 20 machariels on grid (haha). At the end i tried to gather the remains of our fleet in RMOC-W which lead to a strange situation where i warped to 2 basilisk who were abonded by their shield-fleet as well and just joined the armor fleet to take part before the fleet collapse. Great. More and more player who were at the end able to break trough were killed for no reason because the damn station despawned already when still players tried to reach it.

CCP you just lead a lot of player right into a deadtrap for no reason. You left us allone out there to die. You made it nearly impossible for the more or less at least a BIT organized fleets to arrive and FIGHT. You just ordered everyone away from the staging system for 23 jumps with horrible TIDI. Dont get me wrong, TIDI itself is okay and i prefer it over lags. Its the way how it was handled in this case. When the whole operation started there were about 700 players in Sendaya. We were 1200 just in Sarum Prime, not even counting those at the gates / meves.

The whole organisation was horrible, execution was horrendous. Most player in the random fleets were not even close to have an idea what could happen and im quit sure that there died way to many just for that reason. CCP you failed!


About the nullsec camp: I can imagine that you had your fun. I did like the little battle at my try to escape also a little bit. But if you are really proud on your lovely killboad and all these nice little carebear-kills... well. Than im very sorry for you. I dont see any skill in killing player who never actually did pvp, might not even have expected it and were furthermore not even close to be fitted for it. Plenty player came with cheap ships, some came with their missionrunning ship. If you think, this was a great victory... Just remember your own time when you had no idea how eve worked. Yeah, usually noobs kill themself because they dont read the warnings made by CCP about low/nullsec is dangerous. But this time it was a CCP event. With fleets without any actual FC or any organisation.


Yes. This is eve. But highsec (and nullsec as well) carebearing is eve as well, as mining is. We are all part of one universe, we are all here to have fun. Some people have fun to **** other people off. So CCP should maybe just open up JOVE space and raid all off nullsec. Just let the highsec carebears fly a few polaris ships for one day. It would be the same as killing pve ships in an desorganized fleet in pvp ships. I guess i know which side would like the outcome of THAT event.

Dunno who you see it, i want more nullseccarebearcrying. Just go on bump titans and cry because CCP dont let "ya haz da kill"

So CCP, idea for next event is made up. Your turn. Lets **** of the other side next time.
Jennifer Maxwell
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#302 - 2013-11-08 00:44:22 UTC
fire elf wrote:
I only make sure that I have a diffrent game running so you can do something while you waiting for new targets to appear in your broadcast list or guns to cycle.

God you sound like a carebear.
Prelate Hucel-Ge
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#303 - 2013-11-08 00:47:17 UTC
Jennifer Maxwell wrote:
fire elf wrote:
I only make sure that I have a diffrent game running so you can do something while you waiting for new targets to appear in your broadcast list or guns to cycle.

God you sound like a carebear.

COMING FROM SOMEONE IN IRRELEVANT EVE CORPORATION #123643424
fire elf
Carpe Noctem.
#304 - 2013-11-08 00:52:17 UTC
Jennifer Maxwell wrote:
fire elf wrote:
I only make sure that I have a diffrent game running so you can do something while you waiting for new targets to appear in your broadcast list or guns to cycle.

God you sound like a carebear.



MHM Carebear of the biggest kind... Thats why you have afk vexors alts doing anoms :) (THANKS GOONSWARM)
Antonio Steele
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#305 - 2013-11-08 00:53:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Antonio Steele
Blowing up in a mass legion gatecamp wasn't a big deal (my pod made it 10 jumps through null even after that though). What really sucked is spending 1-1.5 hours flying in TiDi. The CAS fleet regrouped at our null base to reship only 5-10 minutes after hitting the legion camp, but the event was over. The rest of the fleet joined with the CAS null fleet and went to the event area for some PVP. I had wasted enough time however and had stuff to do IRL so I just hopped in a spare frig and went back to highsec.

I see no issue with gatecamps and bubbles. It isn't all that hard to learn how to deal with null if you use cheap fits. I can make a frig fit for 1 mil isk that can still be competitive in fleet. Only got one kill in my short time in pvp, but the ship, fit, and ammo was 10 times the cost of mine (T2 fit condor). The point I am making is that you can make a cheap ship and learn null.

If any of you want to get your feet wet in null, make a Gallente Alt and join CAS for one of our CAS Combat Days. It's a lot of fun with just a pile of t1 frigs and cruisers. If you can afford to fit up just one frig to start you can get free replacements from the CAS veterans so you can keep playing.
fire elf
Carpe Noctem.
#306 - 2013-11-08 00:53:36 UTC
Prelate Hucel-Ge wrote:
Jennifer Maxwell wrote:
fire elf wrote:
I only make sure that I have a diffrent game running so you can do something while you waiting for new targets to appear in your broadcast list or guns to cycle.

God you sound like a carebear.

COMING FROM SOMEONE IN IRRELEVANT EVE CORPORATION #123643424


SOLST > IXDS
epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#307 - 2013-11-08 00:58:47 UTC  |  Edited by: epicurus ataraxia
Well there's a simple solution, CCP just led half of hisec into an ambush, Deliberately or through incompetence, or possibly both.

we now need another live event for balance, where sansha's nation and the sleepers are pissed off with the mess made throughout their space with these new experiments, and hotdrop all through null outnumbering the residents 100 to one in PVP ships with local effects that make all the null ships perform like PvE fits.Oh and make it so the Null ships have 10% TDI are scattered Your FC's are trying to get you killed and the sleepers etc are just in place right next to them.

That sounds just about as fair and balanced as this.Of course that would be the null residents own fault for being there.

and the rest of eve would boast about good fights and how weak and useless null residents were.

Does that sound fair, the hell it does, you would be led to the slaughter in exactly the same way as we were.Evil

Oh and to make things even more fun when it is over they have destroyed the transmitters that allow local.

Do you really, really think this is all they have planned?
They have shown what they are capable of.

Do you feel luck punk? Really? (Clint Eastwood quote Dirty harry)

This is Rubicon, the no going back, NO ONE IS SAFE Capsuleers are now sacrifices.


Wait till they screw you over and then talk about care-bear tears.

There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE

Jennifer Maxwell
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#308 - 2013-11-08 01:01:47 UTC
Prelate Hucel-Ge wrote:
Jennifer Maxwell wrote:
fire elf wrote:
I only make sure that I have a diffrent game running so you can do something while you waiting for new targets to appear in your broadcast list or guns to cycle.

God you sound like a carebear.

COMING FROM SOMEONE IN IRRELEVANT EVE CORPORATION #123643424

Cry more carebear.
Laetitia Nzero
Southern Cross Silver Shields
Flying Dangerous
#309 - 2013-11-08 01:06:12 UTC
This was my very first ever live event within eve after a year of play. Never again.

I was completely disgusted at the thought process and event management of this, It wasn't all that fun, not one person had any idea what was going on att any stage.
That Amarr NPC captain whateverthefuk had us hold on a gate forever then gave us one small bit of FC direction, then bailed saying something like 'I'm outta here'??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????




Not cool at all.
Horatio Nately
808 Enterprises
#310 - 2013-11-08 01:10:00 UTC
Laetitia Nzero wrote:
This was my very first ever live event within eve after a year of play. Never again.

I was completely disgusted at the thought process and event management of this, It wasn't all that fun, not one person had any idea what was going on att any stage.
That Amarr NPC captain whateverthefuk had us hold on a gate forever then gave us one small bit of FC direction, then bailed saying something like 'I'm outta here'??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????




Not cool at all.



the minmatar one just fu*ked off without a word so at least you had something
Maaloc
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#311 - 2013-11-08 01:21:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Maaloc
I absolutely adored this event. At first I thought the CCP would just respawn a titan in a hi-sec, let some carebears shoot it, then let some pirates shoot those carebears and then let CONCORD do everything "just right"...but this. This was f***ing great! Big smile

All these posts from people who learned the hard way what an organized null-sec fleet is made my morning.
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#312 - 2013-11-08 01:24:34 UTC
Horatio Nately wrote:
the minmatar one just fu*ked off without a word so at least you had something

There was a Minmatar one?

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.

Elfi Wolfe
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#313 - 2013-11-08 01:24:41 UTC
Maaloc wrote:
I absolutely adored this event. At first I thought the CCP would just respawn a titan in a hi-sec, let some carebears shoot it, then let some pirates shoot those carebears and then leave CONCORD do everything "just right"...but this. This was f***ing great! Big smile

All these posts from people who learned the hard way what an organized null-sec fleet is made my morning.


Yep. Hi-sec will always lose when against Null-sec. Only thing keeping empire space from being slaves is Concord.

"Please point to the place on the doll where the carebear touched you."

epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#314 - 2013-11-08 01:27:12 UTC  |  Edited by: epicurus ataraxia
I think I get where they are taking this lore, even though it was terribly badly done.

All credit though to the null fleets, they performed their role efficiently and well.Pirate

They sacrificed the prey that was delivered to them thoroughly.

What comes next?

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Bam Stroker
The Graduates
The Initiative.
#315 - 2013-11-08 01:30:25 UTC
Jennifer Maxwell wrote:
fire elf wrote:
I only make sure that I have a diffrent game running so you can do something while you waiting for new targets to appear in your broadcast list or guns to cycle.

God you sound like a carebear.


He's got 25x the number of kills you do. GTFO.

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#316 - 2013-11-08 01:35:18 UTC
epicurus ataraxia wrote:
I think I get where they are taking this lore, even though it was terribly badly done.

All credit though to the null fleets, they performed their role efficiently and well.Pirate

They sacrificed the prey that was delivered to them thoroughly.

What comes next?



New implants! Cool

Well played, CCP. Well played.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Dunk Dinkle
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#317 - 2013-11-08 01:36:11 UTC
So it sounds like everyone had a great time!

Awesome!
epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#318 - 2013-11-08 01:39:56 UTC  |  Edited by: epicurus ataraxia
The lore people may be showing a spark of genius,Big smile Things could be about to get VERY interesting.

shame the execution of the plan sucked.Shocked

There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE

Judas Lonestar
Stryker Industries
Stryker Group
#319 - 2013-11-08 01:43:11 UTC
Bam Stroker wrote:
Jennifer Maxwell wrote:
fire elf wrote:
I only make sure that I have a diffrent game running so you can do something while you waiting for new targets to appear in your broadcast list or guns to cycle.

God you sound like a carebear.


He's got 25x the number of kills you do. GTFO.


Whoop de doo. In the 4 pages of kills I looked at he has all of 2 that have less that 10 on the killmail.

I mean lets be realistic. If you metric to judge a good pilot is the ability to sit in a fleet of 80 and follow orders i think any of us would qualify as good pilots. Its just not that hard to do. Which means your point really isnt valid. What you should say is

"His killboard shows hes way better at being a good lemming, you suck at being a lemming cause your killboard sucks" am I right?

For what its worth, my killboard isnt that good. I dont judge my fun and skill by my killboard.
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#320 - 2013-11-08 02:02:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Arthur Aihaken
So... since the null alliances sided with the Pirates, I guess they'll be persona non grata in high-sec now?

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.