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Probably the WORST event I've wasted my time on in my 10 years of EVE ...

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Aerieth
The Sleeper Sleuths
#261 - 2013-11-07 23:27:57 UTC
Prelate Hucel-Ge wrote:
haha look at all these dumb hisec pubbies whining about tidi and bad mechanics
welcome to EVE


Haha look at these dumb nullsec bittervets not having a clue what we are complaining about.
Makalu Zarya
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
#262 - 2013-11-07 23:28:30 UTC
holy **** high sec carebear pubby tears...this thread is definitely going places.
Plentath
Sparkle Motion.
#263 - 2013-11-07 23:28:31 UTC
You're all going to be even more annoyed when you realise the people who turned your fleet into a turkey shoot were AFK.

Drone assist isn't broken at all.
Marikitus
Dis0wned
Brack Regen
#264 - 2013-11-07 23:29:42 UTC
more tears please Big smileBig smileBig smileBig smileBig smile

Anna Karhunen
Inoue INEXP
#265 - 2013-11-07 23:29:49 UTC
MonkeyMagic Thiesant wrote:
Anna Karhunen wrote:
Farelle wrote:
Can people confirm that the CCP controlled Pirates self distructed? That the events out come was predetermined?

On Live Events channel ISD announced that after attack was successfully repelled and base saved, pirates destroyed their own base. I was amused.


Yeah. I was watching with a scout. Also set off with a bomber from the HS rally point.

Hardly anyone who set out from Sarum made it there though - a couple hours travelling in tidi, then no way through the absolutely predictable bottleneck gate camp.

At the time the event finished, there were just 200-300 in local - most of the combat being a darkside cerb fleet and the initiative in nagas (or the other way round?). However, Dorrill/Sendaya and so on had quite a few thousand between them.


I was on that route with another character of mine. Got a bit lost on the way from the others in the same fleet (31 of us) as the route objectives were taking first on one route and then when I heard the target system I put it as destination, taking me shorter route. I ended up entering the system from other side than where CCP was leading us, encountered no one, heard in fleet chat that things had gone south, it was over and we should save our ships. At first I thought to leave with my Corax intact, but it had been put together just to be lost there, so I went for bubbles I knew of and lo and behold - there was Caracal that helped me fast home (thank you, whoever you were. It was kind of you).

As my old maths teacher used to say: "Statistics are like bikinis: It's what they don't show that's interesting". -CCP Aporia

Prelate Hucel-Ge
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#266 - 2013-11-07 23:30:48 UTC
Aerieth wrote:
Prelate Hucel-Ge wrote:
haha look at all these dumb hisec pubbies whining about tidi and bad mechanics
welcome to EVE


Haha look at these dumb nullsec bittervets not having a clue what we are complaining about.

YEAH IT'S NOT LIKE WE DEAL WITH LARGE FIGHTS ON A DAILY BASIS OR ANYTHING, WE'RE TOTALLY THE IDIOTS HERE.
Elfi Wolfe
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#267 - 2013-11-07 23:32:48 UTC
Plentath wrote:
You're all going to be even more annoyed when you realise the people who turned your fleet into a turkey shoot were AFK.

Drone assist isn't broken at all.


Just shows that empires cannot win when fighing the null sec alliances.

"Please point to the place on the doll where the carebear touched you."

Photon Ceray
Palmyra Universal Enterprise
#268 - 2013-11-07 23:34:52 UTC
Oh god, guess I am lucky I missed it!

I hope that now CCP experienced a glimpse of what null sec players have to deal with, imagine doing that tidi to 1% and playing for 5-6 hours because your ships are stuck otherwise.

Maybe it's time to fix TiDi?
Aerieth
The Sleeper Sleuths
#269 - 2013-11-07 23:34:59 UTC
Prelate Hucel-Ge wrote:
Aerieth wrote:
Prelate Hucel-Ge wrote:
haha look at all these dumb hisec pubbies whining about tidi and bad mechanics
welcome to EVE


Haha look at these dumb nullsec bittervets not having a clue what we are complaining about.

YEAH IT'S NOT LIKE WE DEAL WITH LARGE FIGHTS ON A DAILY BASIS OR ANYTHING, WE'RE TOTALLY THE IDIOTS HERE.


Thanks for playing to my point. We don't care about the big fight. We aren't upset about dying. We don't care about our ship losses or the fact that TiDi made combat slow.

We are upset at the utter lack of communication from CCP for this Live Event and the utterly atrocious planning from CCP.

The getting blown up at the end of the trip was the BEST part of my night and I thank you for that. It was the unnecessary 2 hour trip through high sec at 10% TiDi with no input from our FC (CCP) that was most upsetting!
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#270 - 2013-11-07 23:35:12 UTC

This really sounds like an "expectations management" situation.

Systems with a thousand people in them experience heavy time dialation (this is why titan bridging to systems is so popular). If you didn't expect this, now you know.

Disorganized masses are generally slaughtered by competent opponents. Especially when they employ voice coms, use a tested fleet concept, know the area, and are generally prepared for the fight.

Prelate Hucel-Ge
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#271 - 2013-11-07 23:38:31 UTC
Aerieth wrote:
Prelate Hucel-Ge wrote:
Aerieth wrote:
Prelate Hucel-Ge wrote:
haha look at all these dumb hisec pubbies whining about tidi and bad mechanics
welcome to EVE


Haha look at these dumb nullsec bittervets not having a clue what we are complaining about.

YEAH IT'S NOT LIKE WE DEAL WITH LARGE FIGHTS ON A DAILY BASIS OR ANYTHING, WE'RE TOTALLY THE IDIOTS HERE.


Thanks for playing to my point. We don't care about the big fight. We aren't upset about dying. We don't care about our ship losses or the fact that TiDi made combat slow.

We are upset at the utter lack of communication from CCP for this Live Event and the utterly atrocious planning from CCP.

The getting blown up at the end of the trip was the BEST part of my night and I thank you for that. It was the unnecessary 2 hour trip through high sec at 10% TiDi with no input from our FC (CCP) that was most upsetting!

Harden the **** up, welcome to EVE. You haven't seen shitall about bad communication unless you went on a sov-holding Test fleet.
Del Vikus
Sundered Core
#272 - 2013-11-07 23:42:23 UTC
All this "highsec vs. nullsec" b*llsh*t is distracting from the main issue here: CCP utterly ****** up a routine event. ("Rally here; go there; fight.") And to all the nullsec people chortling about their glorious victory: if this is the kind of event you really want CCP to run in the future, keep poking the angry carebears, because if CCP gets the idea that this result was "fun", then all of EVE is going to lose.

There are two possible scenarios here:

1) Not WAI: Someone planned things very poorly, did not anticipate TIDI, or did not provide sufficient NPC/Dev-intervention support to balance the (obvious, in retrospect) bubblecamps. If there was a lore plan/Rubicon release concepts, they completely lost sight of it, or did not anticipate the difference between planning and execution.

2) WAI: Spoonfeeding people to nullsec bubblecamps was their plan, and was part of their lore plan/Rubicon release concepts.

Either way: terrible.

So: people should stop sniping at each other about nullsec vs. carebears. It's a huge sideshow. Even if you sat and racked up killmails in your bubblecamp, you should be annoyed that this wasn't a better event.
Aerieth
The Sleeper Sleuths
#273 - 2013-11-07 23:42:54 UTC
Prelate Hucel-Ge wrote:

Harden the **** up, welcome to EVE. You haven't seen shitall about bad communication unless you went on a sov-holding Test fleet.


So because a sh***y alliance in EVE sucks ... that makes it the norm of play?
Prelate Hucel-Ge
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#274 - 2013-11-07 23:43:34 UTC
Aerieth wrote:
Prelate Hucel-Ge wrote:

Harden the **** up, welcome to EVE. You haven't seen shitall about bad communication unless you went on a sov-holding Test fleet.


So because a sh***y alliance in EVE sucks ... that makes it the norm of play?

Yes? Considering every nullsec alliance is like this except for like, two or three in the entire game.
Uriel Shaz
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#275 - 2013-11-07 23:44:07 UTC
Noobs and hisec residents know the dangers of 0.0.

WHat happened has the feel that CCP holds highsec residents in contempt to lead us out on an "Organized Event" to be slaughtered.

"Come defend the empire!" ... what we got was an Organized CCP Ambush

"This is the real EVE" .. BS. EVE is far more than nullsec ganking.

We know what to expect when wandering in to nullsec. We expected far far far more from a CCP event.
They tried, once. Once text was entered "Dont let the Guristas(?cant remember now?) Finish their research"

the common reply was "screw that. carebears.. FIRE!

This message is aimed AT CCP. Not the usual testicle mesuring adolescent in Nullsec.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#276 - 2013-11-07 23:44:54 UTC
I was expecting to lose my deadspace fit comet but really this was a poorly run live event. Too much TiDi, too much confusion, not much happening. Way too much time to invest in losing a ship and say "I was there".


Hopefully there will be better ones.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Cian Korwin
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#277 - 2013-11-07 23:46:25 UTC
I think everyone who took part and failed to accomplish the GM's mission should lose standings.
Koda
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#278 - 2013-11-07 23:46:49 UTC
Ahahahahah, dumb carebears crying.. props to CCP!

Op Success!
Aerieth
The Sleeper Sleuths
#279 - 2013-11-07 23:47:34 UTC
Prelate Hucel-Ge wrote:
Aerieth wrote:
Prelate Hucel-Ge wrote:

Harden the **** up, welcome to EVE. You haven't seen shitall about bad communication unless you went on a sov-holding Test fleet.


So because a sh***y alliance in EVE sucks ... that makes it the norm of play?

Yes? Considering every nullsec alliance is like this except for like, two or three in the entire game.


If you don't like the way communication is handled out in Null Sec then you should probably speak up, maybe it will get better. Kind of like how a lot of us are speaking up about how we are unhappy with the way CCP handled communication during this event.
Prelate Hucel-Ge
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#280 - 2013-11-07 23:49:29 UTC
Uriel Shaz wrote:
Noobs and hisec residents know the dangers of 0.0.

WHat happened has the feel that CCP holds highsec residents in contempt to lead us out on an "Organized Event" to be slaughtered.

"Come defend the empire!" ... what we got was an Organized CCP Ambush

"This is the real EVE" .. BS. EVE is far more than nullsec ganking.

We know what to expect when wandering in to nullsec. We expected far far far more from a CCP event.
They tried, once. Once text was entered "Dont let the Guristas(?cant remember now?) Finish their research"

the common reply was "screw that. carebears.. FIRE!

This message is aimed AT CCP. Not the usual testicle mesuring adolescent in Nullsec.

Hisec doesn't bring players to the game, it's boring and nothing cool/emergent ever happens there. Also you're literally CCP's little favourites, our space costs billions to hold and is actively detrimental to the sanity of the people who maintain the sov, as well as it costing billions in a month. Stop bitching and whining and go back to your missions, or stop being a ***** and come out to nullsec.