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Probably the WORST event I've wasted my time on in my 10 years of EVE ...

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Gemini Nightshines
Doomheim
#181 - 2013-11-07 22:03:40 UTC
Kinis Deren wrote:
LULZ, I guess this was CCP's peace offering to the CFC scrubs for the missed titan kills the other day in KW-I6T. I'm so glad I don't do Live Events. Here's a tip guys - if there is ever another Live Event with a null sec destination system, then fully expect a repeat performance.

I can only hope it doesn't put off hi sec players from thinking of eventually moving to null, as the vast majority of null sec space (outside of circle jerk staging systems) is pretty empty, TiDi free and can be great for solo/small gang roams and fights.


Meow meow. I've seen some High Sec folks take it all in stride and display a positive attitude. So there is hope for a few space-adventurers out there.

So just to add to what Kinis said, if you're reading all the anger and shrug your shoulders, or have a laugh about it all; come on out to low and/or null sec and really start playing EVE. It's more fun and there are pretty explosions.
Jaffinator
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#182 - 2013-11-07 22:03:54 UTC
Petar Harad wrote:
Was I expecting it to go into Low/Null sec? yes.
Was I expecting to die at this event? Yes.
Was I expecting to have to travel for nearly two hours through 10% TIDI? No!

And that's what put me of at this event.
I don't mind to die in this game, I don't expect any fight to be 'fair', but travelling only to hear the event is actually over before you arrive, is no fun at all.

I think it was organised this way to show the utter incompetence of the empires compared to organised capsuleer organisations. If that's correct, then this event was a success. But not fun for me personally.




So you expected there wouldn't be 10% TiDi in an event for all of Eve to take part in despite the TiDi that's happened in past events and any time 1000+ players get together anywhere but Jita/Amarr?
Jennifer Maxwell
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#183 - 2013-11-07 22:03:57 UTC
Spring HeeledJack wrote:
Draugo Rana wrote:
Konrad Kane wrote:
Looks like we ruined your game.

Op success.



Good for you. Wasn't because any abundance of skills or wits. Guess some people need to brag no matter what...


OP SUCCESS \o/

Further kill interest in Live Events

OP SUCCESS \o/
Octoven
Stellar Production
#184 - 2013-11-07 22:04:51 UTC
Lychton Kondur wrote:
Aja Jinn wrote:

Screw all you whiners!! I had a choice today to either go outside and rake leaves, or fly with a fleet to null sec.
Guess what? I chose Null sec. I got on a couple of kills, got podded, had fun.
So quit whining and get another ship and get back out there.
Or send all your stuff to me and I'll give it away to people that aren't world class crybabys like all you losers.

OK, I feel better now.



You are the first Highsec player that admitted you have fun. Props, you're winning EvE. If you want to spice up your space life, you are more than welcome to come out and fly with us.


I am chiefly a high sec pilot and had a blast...i died so what I had insurance...clean clone had fun going on an adventure even if I lost. At least Im man enough to accept defeat.
Draugo Rana
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan
#185 - 2013-11-07 22:05:16 UTC
Fineesd Miromme wrote:
Jon Deepspace wrote:
What did I miss?



Bunch of Hi-secers getting blown to bits by nullies evidently. Too bad we missed it.



Aren't you guys supposed to, by definition, quit Brave Newbies immediately the second you start tooting your own PvP horn like the average Goon clone?

Masuat'aa Matari is recruiting Minmatar freedom fighters
epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#186 - 2013-11-07 22:06:35 UTC
Forgetting for the moment that CCP either deliberately or through incompetence led their fleet into a slaughter.

How can struggling to get into a system, being given no information, eventually finding out through twitter where the next system was, spending over an hour stuck in TDI SLOOOOW and then arriving to discover that the rest of the fleet had left and been slaughtered like animals with no idea what the hell it was all for. Be fun?

Sure, tell people bring your strongest ships, be prepared for the battle of your life,and move everyone into the system, works for the test server,Why not live events, then a glorious battle, each fleet marked as friend or foe and good fight had by all.
Instead you end up leading innocents to their extermination.

How is this fun, the Null residents must have found it totally boring, Of course there are those who think standing on a kittens head is fun and makes them strong but no help for those.

Back to the first sentence. If you can't do these events properly Just fire the organisers and hire people who can.

There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE
CaptSummers
Tr0pa de elite.
#187 - 2013-11-07 22:07:11 UTC
All I see is carebears crying about not being able to to anything... grow up... let it be in game and in out game, learn to play and get a damn life..

Op success... thx CCP
Michael Turate
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#188 - 2013-11-07 22:08:32 UTC
Didn't think much of the CCP end of event but the post event fall out is hilarious. What a bunch of babies!! What did you lot think was going to happen? You'd be safely transported somewhere pleasant while a nice CCP man told you a story and then you'd get some free stuff?? That's a trip to a kids pantomime and should never been in Eve, ever.

Plenty of people had fun with this event, study them if you wish to understand how to enjoy yourself.
Plane Walkerz
Big Sister Exploration
#189 - 2013-11-07 22:08:58 UTC
I find it incredibly funny that no one thought to form up in lowsec and hot drop in to the systems.

[b][i]-The Unknown- Sleepers abound and hunger for blood There are few brave enough to look for a fight with these tyrants, but those who are brave and hold true to their goal will prevail[/i][/b]
tC Jeff
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#190 - 2013-11-07 22:08:59 UTC
Thanks for the great event CCP
Aerieth
The Sleeper Sleuths
#191 - 2013-11-07 22:09:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Aerieth
To all you null secers not understanding the issue here!

This is not an issue with dieing, this is not an issue with TiDi. this is not an issue with bubbles or null sec mechanics.

This is simply an issue of not delivering on a promise.

When CCP says "Live Event" that sets certain expectations into play. When CCP fails on those explanations then THAT is the issue.

If I was signing up for a dangerous mission through dangerous territory and died in a ball of fire thats OK!
If I was signing up for a trip into null sec and got owned then that's OK!
If I was signing up for a massive fleet fight and due to the sheer mass of it then we were all TiDi'd to all hell then thats OK!

Those situations are all fine, but today those of us that logged on to partake in a Live Event and got anything but a Live Event ... that's the issue at hand.

A Live Event is not hours of TiDi travel! TRAVEL! TiDi is fine, UNNEEDED TiDi TRAVEL IS NOT!
A Live Event is not hours of directionless mayhem with no input from those running the event.

In your 0.0 lingo. CCP was our FC. Our FC purposely screwed us over. We are upset at our FC. You all think we are a bunch of whiners, however you just happen to see our forums. I know from personal experience there is plenty of whining going on behind the Goons forums. "Wha! This FC did this! Wha! This FC did that!"

Imagine spending hours following an FC around in 10% TiDi then you don't get to shoot anything and it was ALL ON PURPOSE by the FC ... then come back to us and say Yes I am fine wasting hours of my time doing nothing of importance on purpose!
Faceless Parmala
State War Academy
Caldari State
#192 - 2013-11-07 22:09:26 UTC
So am I the onlyone who had fun?
Octoven
Stellar Production
#193 - 2013-11-07 22:09:42 UTC
epicurus ataraxia wrote:
Forgetting for the moment that CCP either deliberately or through incompetence led their fleet into a slaughter.

How can struggling to get into a system, being given no information, eventually finding out through twitter where the next system was, spending over an hour stuck in TDI SLOOOOW and then arriving to discover that the rest of the fleet had left and been slaughtered like animals with no idea what the hell it was all for. Be fun?

Sure, tell people bring your strongest ships, be prepared for the battle of your life,and move everyone into the system, works for the test server,Why not live events, then a glorious battle, each fleet marked as friend or foe and good fight had by all.
Instead you end up leading innocents to their extermination.

How is this fun, the Null residents must have found it totally boring, Of course there are those who think standing on a kittens head is fun and makes them strong but no help for those.

Back to the first sentence. If you can't do these events properly Just fire the organisers and hire people who can.


If you didnt find it at least a little fun then you are missing the point of the game mate. The idea is to fly into enemy territory and face overwhelming odds. I think we accomplished that today. I think divulging of info could have been a bit more efficient but other than that the event worked as intended...provide a few hours of distraction and fun.
Octoven
Stellar Production
#194 - 2013-11-07 22:10:48 UTC
Faceless Parmala wrote:
So am I the onlyone who had fun?


Nope I had a ******* blast...even though I died :D It was a good day to die!
Petar Harad
Justified and Ancient
#195 - 2013-11-07 22:11:39 UTC
Jaffinator wrote:
Petar Harad wrote:
Was I expecting it to go into Low/Null sec? yes.
Was I expecting to die at this event? Yes.
Was I expecting to have to travel for nearly two hours through 10% TIDI? No!

And that's what put me of at this event.
I don't mind to die in this game, I don't expect any fight to be 'fair', but travelling only to hear the event is actually over before you arrive, is no fun at all.

I think it was organised this way to show the utter incompetence of the empires compared to organised capsuleer organisations. If that's correct, then this event was a success. But not fun for me personally.




So you expected there wouldn't be 10% TiDi in an event for all of Eve to take part in despite the TiDi that's happened in past events and any time 1000+ players get together anywhere but Jita/Amarr?
I expected the Tidi alright, I just didn't expect to have to jump 20+ systems to get to the actual destination, 15 of which were at 10-15% Tidi.

...without the signatures, the world has descended into chaos. No one knows how long we have left...CCP Falcon
Aerieth
The Sleeper Sleuths
#196 - 2013-11-07 22:11:48 UTC
Michael Turate wrote:
Didn't think much of the CCP end of event but the post event fall out is hilarious. What a bunch of babies!! What did you lot think was going to happen? You'd be safely transported somewhere pleasant while a nice CCP man told you a story and then you'd get some free stuff?? That's a trip to a kids pantomime and should never been in Eve, ever.

Plenty of people had fun with this event, study them if you wish to understand how to enjoy yourself.


No we expected to have a nice CCP man tell us a story then we'd all go down in a brightly burning firey death. I got the firey death I wanted ... now where was the CCP man and where was the story?
Lukas Rox
Aideron Technologies
#197 - 2013-11-07 22:12:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Lukas Rox
Tidi? It's just a game mechanic to make sure all buttons clicked do what they were told.

I for one enjoyed the fun, because we engaged an organized fleet flying doctrine ships with a kitchen sink fleet and we still had some nice kills. Hell, I even got a final blow on some unlucky pilot. It was cool. Poorly organized maybe, but still fun: 1,4B damage dealt, 200M lost.

And props to our FC, he did a great job.

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Lolita Troublemaker
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#198 - 2013-11-07 22:12:32 UTC
Aerieth wrote:
To all you null secers not understanding the issue here!

This is not an issue with dieing, this is not an issue with TiDi. this is not an issue with bubbles or null sec mechanics.

This is simply an issue of not delivering on a promise.

When CCP says "Live Event" that sets certain expectations into play. When CCP fails on those explanations then THAT is the issue.

If I was signing up for a dangerous mission through dangerous territory and died in a ball of fire thats OK!
If I was signing up for a trip into null sec and got owned then that's OK!
If I was signing up for a massive fleet fight and due to the sheer mass of it then we were all TiDi'd to all hell then thats OK!

Those situations are all fine, but today those of us that logged on to partake in a Live Event and got anything but a Live Event ... that's the issue at hand.

A Live Event is not hours of TiDi travel!
A Live Event is not hours of directionless mayhem with no input from those running the event.

You all think we are a bunch of whiners, however you just happen to see our forums. I know from personal experience there is plenty of whining going on behind the Goons forums. "Wha! This FC did this! Wha! This FC did that!"

Imagine spending hours following an FC around in 10% TiDi then you don't get to shoot anything and it was ALL ON PURPOSE by the FC ... then come back to us and say Yes I am fine wasting hours of my time doing nothing of importance on purpose!



This all day long.
CaptSummers
Tr0pa de elite.
#199 - 2013-11-07 22:12:55 UTC
Get used to it... we sometimes fight all night with 10% tidi... grow up

Aerieth wrote:
Michael Turate wrote:
Didn't think much of the CCP end of event but the post event fall out is hilarious. What a bunch of babies!! What did you lot think was going to happen? You'd be safely transported somewhere pleasant while a nice CCP man told you a story and then you'd get some free stuff?? That's a trip to a kids pantomime and should never been in Eve, ever.

Plenty of people had fun with this event, study them if you wish to understand how to enjoy yourself.


No we expected to have a nice CCP man tell us a story then we'd all go down in a brightly burning firey death. I got the firey death I wanted ... now where was the CCP man and where was the story?
epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#200 - 2013-11-07 22:13:48 UTC
Octoven wrote:
epicurus ataraxia wrote:
Forgetting for the moment that CCP either deliberately or through incompetence led their fleet into a slaughter.

How can struggling to get into a system, being given no information, eventually finding out through twitter where the next system was, spending over an hour stuck in TDI SLOOOOW and then arriving to discover that the rest of the fleet had left and been slaughtered like animals with no idea what the hell it was all for. Be fun?

Sure, tell people bring your strongest ships, be prepared for the battle of your life,and move everyone into the system, works for the test server,Why not live events, then a glorious battle, each fleet marked as friend or foe and good fight had by all.
Instead you end up leading innocents to their extermination.

How is this fun, the Null residents must have found it totally boring, Of course there are those who think standing on a kittens head is fun and makes them strong but no help for those.

Back to the first sentence. If you can't do these events properly Just fire the organisers and hire people who can.


If you didnt find it at least a little fun then you are missing the point of the game mate. The idea is to fly into enemy territory and face overwhelming odds. I think we accomplished that today. I think divulging of info could have been a bit more efficient but other than that the event worked as intended...provide a few hours of distraction and fun.


Sorry I just don't find incompetence amusing, or being led to the slaughter, I came prepared for a good fight expecting a clusterfrack from CCP I just Didn't realise how badly they could screw up.

PS never even got to the fight with all the TDI I couldn't even get there.

There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE