Player Features and Ideas Discussion

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I've got a few updates to bring to you all today.

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This cap is being put in place for a few reasons, mainly related to the appearance of ships as they arrive.

You could have addressed this by adding appropriate, perhaps more visible and persistent, warp trails.

I've got a few updates to bring to you all today.

We've been making some tweaks to the numbers, moderating the changes to the far ends of the spectrum and adjusting the stats of the warp speed rigs and the warp speed T3 subsystems.

Firstly, we have done another pass on the warp speeds by class. The default advantage for T2 ships is being reduced slightly from 12.5% to 10%. We're also increasing the speeds of a few of the slower classes (freighters, titans, battlecruisers and command ships) a tad and reducing the speed advantage of the faster ships a bit as well (bringing the top end to 8au/s instead of the previous 10au/s). It's important to note that even with this extra reduction, all interceptors will see gigantic improvements to their warp speeds for virtually all warp distances after Rubicon.

Finally, we are also putting a cap on the deceleration speed that can be obtained for now. This cap is currently set to 2au/s (the declaration speed that a 6au/s warper hits by default, and twice the current hardcoded deceleration speed). This means that as ships start to travel faster than 6au/s they will start to hit diminishing returns.

This cap is being put in place for a few reasons, mainly related to the appearance of ships as they arrive. Having ships appear to blink into place as they exit warp is not ideal as it breaks immersion and prevents players on the destination grid from seeing where the new ship came from. It also significantly reduces the benefits of skilled play (alignment, vigilance) and severely weakens one of the planned natural counters to the new interceptors (smartbombing tactics). At the max deceleration ships will still appear very quickly on grid, but it will always be visible which direction they came from and there will always be one second between their arrival on grid and the completion of the warp.

The new post-Rubicon warp chart can be seen here, including the base warp speed changes and the deceleration cap.

We are also tweaking the warp speed rigs (Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizers) to give them a penalty to ship CPU output (same penalty as drone rigs) instead of their current penalty to armor amount, to even the playing field for different types of tanking.

And finally we are making a slight adjustment to the Gravitational Capacitor subsystems on the Tengu and Proteus. We are reducing their bonus to ship warp speed from 15% to 12.5%. This places a fully skilled Gravitation Capacitor T3 at 4.875au/s, or between the new warp speeds of Destroyers and Frigates. This may prove to be a bit too powerful, so we'll be watching it carefully after release and re-evaluating.

Thanks for the feedback and testing so far everyone!

So, by this you mean that you saw a lot of PL crybabies post on the forums about how easy it would be for them to lose their precious supers and how upset they would be by not getting easy kills with their smartbombing gate camps.


Eve, where tears apparently work quite well .

Any particular reason the average freighter warp still takes 2x as long + a few seconds? The warp speeds don't become even, and then get faster, until just after 100 AU. Increasing the average warp in for sub-cruiser ships in eve by 33%-105% kind of makes people not want to fly/train for them. Would not moving the changes so a battlecruiser is the standard make more sense? Figure most of your game is designed around larger scale combat with ship types above cruiser, do you really think its a great idea to make everything take longer? Also, "smartbombs are the expected counter to interceptors," that is kind of hard to do when they warp through bubbles and would require a perfect hair-pin trigger finger on an entire fleets part. I also agree that ore sites need to be moved back to anomalies for the simple fact that if something isn't reported mining barges, haulers, and other sorts of industrial assistance takes a while to move. With the new changes an interceptor can still land on field ( implants and maybe a rig ) before most ships are even in a position to warp out. The warp difference is also very extreme. An un-implanted, un-rigged interceptor can cross 200 au before a battlecruiser can cross 10 AU and before a battleship can cross 1 AU.

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People actually use those things?

People actually use those things?